Sir Paul played alot of guitars, but did you seem him with this??? - Page 2

Alpino_321 · July 10th, 2008, 11:06 AM

Back when Paul's Liverpool Oratorio came out I was taking a music theory class with a crotchety old professor who didn't much care for pop music at all. Somebody had given him a CD of it and he raved about it for twenty minutes in class one day. Then he finished up with, "Imagine what he could have accomplished if he had learned to read music!"

robbysturgis · September 15th, 2008, 10:01 AM

He's got it:

virtuoso
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Blazer · September 15th, 2008, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Flat357

He might be underated as a musician , but as a person , his ego is about the biggest i've ever come across .

Oh really, read this...

http://bassoutpost.com/index.php?topic=1222.0

wilkat1 · September 15th, 2008, 10:45 AM

The long instrumental drone at the end of I Want You/She's So Heavy is rescued by Paul going absolutely nuts on the bass. His playing on Something is essential to the recording. And I can't pick up a bass without playing Lady Madonna or Taxman or both.

In the context of his time, Paul was really instrumental (groan) in freeing up bass playing in rock and roll music.

Nighthawk · September 15th, 2008, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by reverbbb

McCartney's perceived genius is in his fantastic melodic ear. He knows how to write melody like very few others on this planet (but not 'everyone' else).

+1 on the above... One of my three favorite bass players of all time, along with Chris Hillman and Bob Mosely...

Rif Raf · September 15th, 2008, 01:08 PM

I like the tuba conection but his bass playing goes beyond that. Listen to the "I Will " bass line on a good system and it is hard to tell whether it is a bass, a tuba or a human voice playing the line. I would say underated as a bass player and a guitar player too.

51mike · September 15th, 2008, 01:26 PM

Guys, please be careful about George and his music. He meant a lot to me and his music definately hits me where it needs to.
Not dimminishing Paul or any of the other lads, they are all great in their way. I especially think Paul has shown his value to the world of music.

Please get the DVD memorial that Eric and friends put on as a George Harrison memorial and I think you'll appreciate georges quality as well.

BTW, I think George was a rockabilly guy all along. Evidence the Carl Perkins DVD that had George, Eric, and all on it. "Carl Perkins and Friends" I think was the title. What was important in that one was it was the first time George had played out with anyone after a long time of depression and you can actually see George grow out of the depression whilr playing with Carl. Note the first song he plays and then the last one. Like two different people really.
Yes, Paul is great. So is Brian Wilson, in his own way, a genius.

TG · September 15th, 2008, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by hekawi

Here's a color shot of the lefty Telecaster. He played it on the "McCartney" album in 1970:

That picture is one of the reasons I play a telecaster. That album was my first ever 'own record' when I was a kid (I got it in 1970 when I was 9) and I listened to it constantly...and stared at that picture a lot.

Observe my main guitar today (my avatar).

I'm pretty certain that he used it on Kreen-Akrore on that album. Sounds like a 'driven telecaster.

wilkat1 · September 15th, 2008, 02:22 PM

51 Mike -

Consider me a huge Harrison fan as well. My own assertion was that Paul's bass parts on Something were essential to the recording, not to the song itself, which is one of the greatest love songs ever written IMO. George's worldview (deeply spiritual, and cynical in the sense that a cynic is really a heartbroken romantic) resonates deeply with me as well.

Rombel · September 15th, 2008, 03:21 PM

If you've seen Paul's "Back In The USA" DVD and watched the interviews with his musicians (all much younger), there's a bit where one of the guitarists tells a story about a dream he had when he was a kid, that the Beatles would ring his door and say "come play". Years later, after becoming a successful sideman, his phone rang, and it was Paul, asking "would you like to go out on tour".
He smacks himself in the head just telling the story :-)
And it shows that whole band is just having a blast playing the songs with THAT sound, with THOSE bass lines, and THAT voice coming out of the monitors.

BTW, I've had that dream too...

bendecaster · September 15th, 2008, 11:10 PM

"Paul doesnt play bass the way most bassist do...his phrases and parts seem to come directly from tuba parts in marching bands

Listen to any Beatles songs..and replace in your mind the bass line with a tuba..and it fits like a glove.. works really well..and I think he deserves the respect he got.."

Oh yeah! I love the bass line in "Lovely Rita"! It always reminded me of a tuba.

I must say that if it wasn't for The Beatles, I probably wouldn't have been interested in playing music as early as I did. I liked their collective music, and solo stuff too. Yes, there was some "pop cheese" songs that Paul did, but he earned his credibility years earlier with me. Watch his "Back In The US" DVD, and tell me this guy isn't a virtuoso! Hell, at 60 the guy can kick his leg higher than his head!

chet · September 16th, 2008, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbouti

I was digging around for some pics of George with his tele, and his Casino w/bigsby, and came across this!

"but did you seem him with this???"

Yeah, there's another color pic of him with it on a Beatles guitar website.

Tony474 · September 16th, 2008, 10:49 AM

Another well-known bass-player with a strong tuba connection is Herbie Flowers - I believe the tuba was his main instrument while training with the Royal Air Force Central Band at Uxbridge. Certainly he featured it in certain pieces with the band Sky (sometimes while dressed in a Little Noddy costume...). The rest of that outfit were classically-trained players too, including the drummer/percussionist, Tristram Fry, with whom I was at school.

July 10th, 2008, 11:06 AM	#41 (permalink)
Alpino_321 Tele-Meister Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Murfreesboro, TN Posts: 136	Back when Paul's Liverpool Oratorio came out I was taking a music theory class with a crotchety old professor who didn't much care for pop music at all. Somebody had given him a CD of it and he raved about it for twenty minutes in class one day. Then he finished up with, "Imagine what he could have accomplished if he had learned to read music!" __________________ If there's ever an obscene noise to be made on an instrument, it's gonna come out of a guitar! - Frank Zappa "Well of course a baby's gonna try to play with a rattlesnake!"

September 15th, 2008, 10:01 AM	#42 (permalink)
robbysturgis Tele-Meister Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: fairfax Posts: 496 5 Photos	Virtuoso He's got it: virtuoso Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) - Cite This Source - Share This vir·tu·o·so /ˌvɜrtʃuˈoʊsoʊ/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[vur-choo-oh-soh] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation noun, plural -sos, -si /-si/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[-see] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation, adjective –noun 1. a person who has special knowledge or skill in a field. 2. a person who excels in musical technique or execution. 3. a person who has a cultivated appreciation of artistic excellence, as a connoisseur or collector of objects of art, antiques, etc. 4. Obsolete. a person who has special interest or knowledge in the arts and sciences; scientist; scholar. __________________ In early '57, I bought a Fender Telecaster. ~ Johnny Rivers

September 15th, 2008, 10:45 AM	#44 (permalink)
wilkat1 Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: So. Illinois Age: 40 Posts: 1,554 20 Photos	The long instrumental drone at the end of I Want You/She's So Heavy is rescued by Paul going absolutely nuts on the bass. His playing on Something is essential to the recording. And I can't pick up a bass without playing Lady Madonna or Taxman or both. In the context of his time, Paul was really instrumental (groan) in freeing up bass playing in rock and roll music. __________________ MySpace "That number don't mean nothing to me if the guitar don't sound right." - Buddy Guy on the year a guitar was manufactured.

September 15th, 2008, 02:22 PM	#49 (permalink)
wilkat1 Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: So. Illinois Age: 40 Posts: 1,554 20 Photos	51 Mike - Consider me a huge Harrison fan as well. My own assertion was that Paul's bass parts on Something were essential to the recording, not to the song itself, which is one of the greatest love songs ever written IMO. George's worldview (deeply spiritual, and cynical in the sense that a cynic is really a heartbroken romantic) resonates deeply with me as well. __________________ MySpace "That number don't mean nothing to me if the guitar don't sound right." - Buddy Guy on the year a guitar was manufactured.

September 15th, 2008, 11:10 PM	#51 (permalink)
bendecaster Tele-Holic Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: maine Posts: 915	"Paul doesnt play bass the way most bassist do...his phrases and parts seem to come directly from tuba parts in marching bands Listen to any Beatles songs..and replace in your mind the bass line with a tuba..and it fits like a glove.. works really well..and I think he deserves the respect he got.." Oh yeah! I love the bass line in "Lovely Rita"! It always reminded me of a tuba. I must say that if it wasn't for The Beatles, I probably wouldn't have been interested in playing music as early as I did. I liked their collective music, and solo stuff too. Yes, there was some "pop cheese" songs that Paul did, but he earned his credibility years earlier with me. Watch his "Back In The US" DVD, and tell me this guy isn't a virtuoso! Hell, at 60 the guy can kick his leg higher than his head! __________________ The Demented 7th

September 15th, 2008, 01:08 PM	#46 (permalink)
Rif Raf TDPRI Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Morro Bay CA Posts: 13	I like the tuba conection but his bass playing goes beyond that. Listen to the "I Will " bass line on a good system and it is hard to tell whether it is a bass, a tuba or a human voice playing the line. I would say underated as a bass player and a guitar player too.

September 15th, 2008, 01:26 PM	#47 (permalink)
51mike Tele-Holic Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Webster, NY Age: 58 Posts: 597 11 Photos	Guys, please be careful about George and his music. He meant a lot to me and his music definately hits me where it needs to. Not dimminishing Paul or any of the other lads, they are all great in their way. I especially think Paul has shown his value to the world of music. Please get the DVD memorial that Eric and friends put on as a George Harrison memorial and I think you'll appreciate georges quality as well. BTW, I think George was a rockabilly guy all along. Evidence the Carl Perkins DVD that had George, Eric, and all on it. "Carl Perkins and Friends" I think was the title. What was important in that one was it was the first time George had played out with anyone after a long time of depression and you can actually see George grow out of the depression whilr playing with Carl. Note the first song he plays and then the last one. Like two different people really. Yes, Paul is great. So is Brian Wilson, in his own way, a genius.

September 15th, 2008, 03:21 PM	#50 (permalink)
Rombel Tele-Meister Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: YUL Posts: 276	If you've seen Paul's "Back In The USA" DVD and watched the interviews with his musicians (all much younger), there's a bit where one of the guitarists tells a story about a dream he had when he was a kid, that the Beatles would ring his door and say "come play". Years later, after becoming a successful sideman, his phone rang, and it was Paul, asking "would you like to go out on tour". He smacks himself in the head just telling the story :-) And it shows that whole band is just having a blast playing the songs with THAT sound, with THOSE bass lines, and THAT voice coming out of the monitors. BTW, I've had that dream too...

September 16th, 2008, 10:49 AM	#53 (permalink)
Tony474 Friend of Leo's Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: North Bushey, near London, England Age: 61 Posts: 2,101	Another well-known bass-player with a strong tuba connection is Herbie Flowers - I believe the tuba was his main instrument while training with the Royal Air Force Central Band at Uxbridge. Certainly he featured it in certain pieces with the band Sky (sometimes while dressed in a Little Noddy costume...). The rest of that outfit were classically-trained players too, including the drummer/percussionist, Tristram Fry, with whom I was at school. __________________ Proud to be The Man From Uncool.