Big Brown to win the Triple Crown in Horse Racing

tazzboy · May 17th, 2008, 11:14 PM

Well the horse has won 2 Kentucky Derby and Preakness next up is the ever tuff Belmont Stakes on June 7th. It has been 30 years since the Last Triple Crown (Affirmed)

Do think Big Brown will do it or not?

stantheman · May 18th, 2008, 02:12 AM

Best Thoroughbred I've seen since Big Red.
I'm already doing real good and if the Tax Rebate shows up before The Belmont it'll ride with the earnings of the first two races.
And that's my heating bill for the next twelve months.
Done!
And I'll bet Big Brown takes the 1-1/2 miler by over 20 lengths.
He'll crush the field.
There's already talk about him being put to stud with Smarty Jones.

Derek S · May 18th, 2008, 02:26 AM

He seemed to have no problem today at Pimlico, he just trashed the fleld and Desmoreaux never even went to the whip.

Judging by today and last weeks KD, Big Brown should
be any easy winner in the Belmont.

tazzboy · May 18th, 2008, 05:11 PM

Lets hope Come June 7th.

Tim Armstrong · May 18th, 2008, 05:21 PM

He ain't Secretariat, but he's pretty damned good. I guess it all depends on how good the horses are at the Belmont Stakes, because he sure wasn't racing much real competition so far...

Cheers, Tim

chet · May 18th, 2008, 05:30 PM

Looks like he's the Stud to do it!

woodman · May 18th, 2008, 05:55 PM

barring catastrophe, i think he takes the crown.

Colt W. Knight · May 18th, 2008, 06:05 PM

If you look at the race times for all the Triple Crown winners, Big Brown probably won't win the Triple Crown.

tazzboy · May 18th, 2008, 07:09 PM

Smarty Jones came close in 2004 so who knows.

Tim Armstrong · May 18th, 2008, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colt W. Knight

If you look at the race times for all the Triple Crown winners, Big Brown probably won't win the Triple Crown.

Yeah, but Kent Desormeaux said he was really holding Big Brown back, at least in the Preakness. The slow time was really a reflection on the rest of the field, which, according to noted racing expert Andrew Beyer of the Washington Post, was extremely unexceptional. Heck, only one of the horses from the Kentucky Derby, Gayego, was even entered in the Preakness, and he finished 11th.

Like I said above, we won't know how fast this horse really is until some other exceptional horse challenges him...

Cheers, Tim

Colt W. Knight · May 18th, 2008, 07:28 PM

I would really like to see another Triple Crown winner. Would boost the sport tremendously, but I am not confident Big Brown is exceptional enough to pull off the big one. The Belmont is a different type of race when compared to the Derby or the Preakness.

ne4tt · May 18th, 2008, 07:58 PM

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Charlie Bernstein · May 19th, 2008, 11:07 AM

I have no idea. But I hate to think what he's named after...

Charlie Bernstein · May 19th, 2008, 11:07 AM

...or should I say in front of?

ne4tt · May 19th, 2008, 11:25 AM

Charlie,

"The name Big Brown comes from the United Parcel Service company nickname; owner Paul Pompa's trucking business has U.P.S. for a client."

ne4tt · May 19th, 2008, 11:53 AM

"...Big Brown won $600,000 in the Preakness for his owners, IEAH Stables and Paul Pompa Jr., who netted another $50 million for the stallion rights sold to Three Chimneys Farm in Midway, Kentucky, where the horse will stand stud in retirement. The deal was announced about an hour before the Preakness...."

"...$50 million in insurance on Big Brown.."

"...Upon his retirement, Big Brown will go to Three Chimneys, where Dynaformer, the sire of 2006 Derby winner Barbaro, stands stud for $150,000 and Smarty Jones gets a $100,000 stud fee...."

If Brown wins the Belmont, bet his stud fee will push $200K.

Jamie

Colt W. Knight · May 19th, 2008, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ne4tt

"...Big Brown won $600,000 in the Preakness for his owners, IEAH Stables and Paul Pompa Jr., who netted another $50 million for the stallion rights sold to Three Chimneys Farm in Midway, Kentucky, where the horse will stand stud in retirement. The deal was announced about an hour before the Preakness...."

"...$50 million in insurance on Big Brown.."

"...Upon his retirement, Big Brown will go to Three Chimneys, where Dynaformer, the sire of 2006 Derby winner Barbaro, stands stud for $150,000 and Smarty Jones gets a $100,000 stud fee...."

If Brown wins the Belmont, bet his stud fee will push $200K.

Jamie

Actually if he wins the triple crown they can probably ask closer to 500K$. Theres less than 15 horses in Kentucky that get that much, but I bet he'd be one of them if he wins the Triple Crown.
I use to drive by Three Chimneys everyday when I lived and worked in the heart of thoroughbred country.

They'll probably get 80-120 bookings a year for about 150,000$. Anyone want to do the math on that horse to see what he is really worth?

jonzer · May 19th, 2008, 03:44 PM

Is Dale Jarrett the jockey?

Colt W. Knight · May 19th, 2008, 04:11 PM

Well, the money in the Thoroughbred industry isn't in boarding, training, or racing. It is in Yearling Sales and Stud Fees. Most operations are actually loosing money on their boarding. Why you ask, well, because they can only charge 30$ a day due to all the competition. That is a lot to keep a horse, but when you consider farm maintenance and lawn care, that aspect doesn't make any money. Yearling sales can make 100s of thousands and millions. Stud fees are pretty prosperous too. The 23 million dollar library at the University of Kentucky was paid for by the stud fees of a single horse.

tazzboy · June 7th, 2008, 07:51 PM

Well Big Brown Lost at the Belmont. Kinda of sucks but oh well

e-merlin · June 7th, 2008, 08:36 PM

Yeah, but don't feel too bad. The winning horse paid 38 to 1. Wish I'd got in on some of that!

morroben · June 7th, 2008, 08:46 PM

I have a friend named Tara that insisted I put some money on Da'Tara since I'm the gambler of the group...guess I owe her dinner. If I actually thought the horse had a chance I would have put more than $10 on it.

chet · June 8th, 2008, 03:29 AM

Kinda thought it might turn out this way since I heard it's hoof was damaged. I didn't pay any attention today but heard it a couple of hours after the fact.
How would you run if your foot was hurt as bad as his hoof was?

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May 17th, 2008, 11:14 PM	#1 (permalink)
tazzboy Friend of Leo's Join Date: May 2005 Location: Eugene, Oregon Age: 31 Posts: 3,151	Big Brown to win the Triple Crown in Horse Racing Well the horse has won 2 Kentucky Derby and Preakness next up is the ever tuff Belmont Stakes on June 7th. It has been 30 years since the Last Triple Crown (Affirmed) Do think Big Brown will do it or not? __________________ tazzboy

May 18th, 2008, 02:12 AM	#2 (permalink)
stantheman Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: White Mountains Posts: 5,006	Best Thoroughbred I've seen since Big Red. I'm already doing real good and if the Tax Rebate shows up before The Belmont it'll ride with the earnings of the first two races. And that's my heating bill for the next twelve months. Done! And I'll bet Big Brown takes the 1-1/2 miler by over 20 lengths. He'll crush the field. There's already talk about him being put to stud with Smarty Jones. __________________ Somebody Loan Me A Dime

May 18th, 2008, 05:11 PM	#4 (permalink)
tazzboy Friend of Leo's Join Date: May 2005 Location: Eugene, Oregon Age: 31 Posts: 3,151	Lets hope Come June 7th. __________________ tazzboy

May 18th, 2008, 05:21 PM	#5 (permalink)
Tim Armstrong Moderator Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Berlin, Maryland, USA Age: 49 Posts: 9,552	He ain't Secretariat, but he's pretty damned good. I guess it all depends on how good the horses are at the Belmont Stakes, because he sure wasn't racing much real competition so far... Cheers, Tim __________________ http://www.moodswingers.org

May 18th, 2008, 02:26 AM	#3 (permalink)
Derek S Tele-Meister Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: EL PUEBLO VIEJO Posts: 371	He seemed to have no problem today at Pimlico, he just trashed the fleld and Desmoreaux never even went to the whip. Judging by today and last weeks KD, Big Brown should be any easy winner in the Belmont.

May 18th, 2008, 05:30 PM	#6 (permalink)
chet Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: The Jersey Shore Posts: 6,819	Looks like he's the Stud to do it! __________________ In Brett & Eli We Trust!

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woodman Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mint Hill, NC Age: 62 Posts: 5,901	barring catastrophe, i think he takes the crown. __________________ Truth is stranger than fact ... www.myspace.com/woodymitchellmusic BAND PAGES: www.myspace.com/stragglerswing (Stragglers - Western Swing) www.myspace.com/loafersgloryband (Loafers Glory - '70s country-rock)

May 18th, 2008, 06:05 PM	#8 (permalink)
Colt W. Knight Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: West Virginia Age: 24 Posts: 2,019	If you look at the race times for all the Triple Crown winners, Big Brown probably won't win the Triple Crown.

May 18th, 2008, 07:09 PM	#9 (permalink)
tazzboy Friend of Leo's Join Date: May 2005 Location: Eugene, Oregon Age: 31 Posts: 3,151	Smarty Jones came close in 2004 so who knows. __________________ tazzboy

May 18th, 2008, 07:28 PM	#11 (permalink)
Colt W. Knight Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: West Virginia Age: 24 Posts: 2,019	I would really like to see another Triple Crown winner. Would boost the sport tremendously, but I am not confident Big Brown is exceptional enough to pull off the big one. The Belmont is a different type of race when compared to the Derby or the Preakness.

May 18th, 2008, 07:58 PM	#12 (permalink)
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May 19th, 2008, 11:07 AM	#13 (permalink)
Charlie Bernstein Friend of Leo's Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Augusta, Maine Posts: 2,516	I have no idea. But I hate to think what he's named after...

May 19th, 2008, 11:07 AM	#14 (permalink)
Charlie Bernstein Friend of Leo's Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Augusta, Maine Posts: 2,516	...or should I say in front of?

May 19th, 2008, 11:25 AM	#15 (permalink)
ne4tt Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: North Cackalacky Posts: 1,538 4 Photos	Charlie, "The name Big Brown comes from the United Parcel Service company nickname; owner Paul Pompa's trucking business has U.P.S. for a client."

May 19th, 2008, 11:53 AM	#16 (permalink)
ne4tt Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: North Cackalacky Posts: 1,538 4 Photos	WOW "...Big Brown won $600,000 in the Preakness for his owners, IEAH Stables and Paul Pompa Jr., who netted another $50 million for the stallion rights sold to Three Chimneys Farm in Midway, Kentucky, where the horse will stand stud in retirement. The deal was announced about an hour before the Preakness...." "...$50 million in insurance on Big Brown.." "...Upon his retirement, Big Brown will go to Three Chimneys, where Dynaformer, the sire of 2006 Derby winner Barbaro, stands stud for $150,000 and Smarty Jones gets a $100,000 stud fee...." If Brown wins the Belmont, bet his stud fee will push $200K. Jamie

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jonzer Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,063	Is Dale Jarrett the jockey? __________________ http://816rocks.com/

May 19th, 2008, 04:11 PM	#19 (permalink)
Colt W. Knight Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: West Virginia Age: 24 Posts: 2,019	Well, the money in the Thoroughbred industry isn't in boarding, training, or racing. It is in Yearling Sales and Stud Fees. Most operations are actually loosing money on their boarding. Why you ask, well, because they can only charge 30$ a day due to all the competition. That is a lot to keep a horse, but when you consider farm maintenance and lawn care, that aspect doesn't make any money. Yearling sales can make 100s of thousands and millions. Stud fees are pretty prosperous too. The 23 million dollar library at the University of Kentucky was paid for by the stud fees of a single horse.

June 7th, 2008, 07:51 PM	#20 (permalink)
tazzboy Friend of Leo's Join Date: May 2005 Location: Eugene, Oregon Age: 31 Posts: 3,151	Well Big Brown Lost at the Belmont. Kinda of sucks but oh well __________________ tazzboy

June 7th, 2008, 08:46 PM	#22 (permalink)
morroben Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: california Age: 32 Posts: 1,835 18 Photos	I have a friend named Tara that insisted I put some money on Da'Tara since I'm the gambler of the group...guess I owe her dinner. If I actually thought the horse had a chance I would have put more than $10 on it.

June 8th, 2008, 03:29 AM	#23 (permalink)
chet Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: The Jersey Shore Posts: 6,819	Kinda thought it might turn out this way since I heard it's hoof was damaged. I didn't pay any attention today but heard it a couple of hours after the fact. How would you run if your foot was hurt as bad as his hoof was? __________________ In Brett & Eli We Trust!