I don't like Neil Young, never have........ - Page 3

stantheman · May 16th, 2008, 11:52 PM

Period. Wish they'd get him to play at The Capitol Center in Concord.
What an entertainer. A "citizen of the world".

urizen · May 17th, 2008, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by studebaker hawk

"All you critics sit alone, you're no better than me from what you've shown. With your stomach pumps and hook and ladder dreams. We could get together for some scenes." Ambulance Blues-NY.

How can you not like a guy who gets sued by his record company (Geffen) for being "non commercial"?!!

Great, great album*, and I treasured the original LP for all those years when he refused to re-release it on CD. The Vee-Roys did a very fine cover of Motion Pictures sometime before their break-up.

*On the Beach, for those unfamiliar w/ his overall oeuvre/

urizen · May 17th, 2008, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by thaus

Sorry.......too many up here in Canada claim him as their own! Born and raised in Winnipeg and Northern Ontario.........yeah, he has been an American citizen for quite a while but the Canadians up here consider him a Winnipeger!! You could say an CaMerican icon!

Howza boot a North American icon?

dhdfoster · May 17th, 2008, 01:46 AM

I know his guitar playing is pretty rough, but he had childhood Polio, and I think that has a lot to do with his odd posture and crude guitar playing.

Additionally, picking at his lead playing is like picking at Bob Dylan's harmonica playing, in that, it's just beside the point of the big picture. I'd put "lead guitar player" way down on the list of things that I love about him. Although, I do dig his absolutely primitive approach to solos.

Tim Armstrong · May 17th, 2008, 02:04 AM

I've loved Neil Young's music since I was a kid hearing "After The Goldrush" coming through the wall between my bedroom and my brother's. His acoustic guitar playing is sublime, and his electric stuff covers a lot more than just the flailing on Old Black (not that I don't dig the flailing, too!).

But I gotta say, this album really sucked:

But I forgive him!

Cheers, Tim

chabby · May 17th, 2008, 03:10 AM

Joh Backlund - If you want to hear Neil at his best get his studio perfect "Comes a Time " album. His singing on that album is absolutely stellar for anyobdy. His voice is perfect on every song. The songs are all perfectly done.

That LP will show you his perfectionist side. Perfectly on key he is as well as in the best voice shape of his life. He plays all acoustic through out the whole LP with back up singing all around by the late, great Nicollette Larson.

There is one song on which he plays piano even.

John Backlund · May 17th, 2008, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by chabby

Joh Backlund - If you want to hear Neil at his best get his studio perfect "Comes a Time " album. His singing on that album is absolutely stellar for anyobdy. His voice is perfect on every song. The songs are all perfectly done.

That LP will show you his perfectionist side. Perfectly on key he is as well as in the best voice shape of his life. He plays all acoustic through out the whole LP with back up singing all around by the late, great Nicollette Larson.

There is one song on which he plays piano even.

I'll have to listen to it, thanks.

I didn't want to give the idea that I hold musical perfection in the performance and execution of a song to be the criteria that I might judge any artist by, and whiz-bang virtuosity on the guitar is also not at all required for me to thoroughly enjoy a song, and can in fact over-encumber a powerful and thoughtfull piece with distracting musical embellishment. As often as not, simple music is as pleasurable, if not moreso than technically complicated music, and does not lack anything as a result it's clear purity. One can always point to Bob Dylan or John Prine as a prime examples of this thought.....and perhaps Neil Young as well.

stantheman · May 17th, 2008, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by John Backlund

I'll have to listen to it, thanks.

I didn't want to give the idea that I hold musical perfection in the performance and execution of a song to be the criteria that I might judge any artist by, and whiz-bang virtuosity on the guitar is also not at all required for me to thoroughly enjoy a song, and can in fact over-encumber a powerful and thoughtfull piece with distracting musical embellishment. As often as not, simple music is as pleasurable, if not moreso than technically complicated music, and does not lack anything as a result it's clear purity. One can always point to Bob Dylan or John Prine as a prime examples of this thought.....and perhaps Neil Young as well.

Well said John!
My thoughts EXACTLY.
It's like Art - the Impressionists come to mind.
Archictectual Drafting is precise - but it ain't A-R-T in it's true sense.

smitty54017 · May 17th, 2008, 05:47 PM

I've never been a fan either, though he has had a couple of tunes I kinda like.

I respect him for the fact that he does his own thing and doesn't sound like anyone else. He's not the polished, "radio friendly" type. He doesn't record music in an attempt to reach multi-platinum status. He's unique...you know it's Neil when you hear him.

He still believes that music is an art form and expression of yourself.

Twanginator · May 17th, 2008, 06:18 PM

His voice is a little pitchy, but I was very inspired as a young lad by his Harvest album. I've always thought he, Dylan, and Petty would make a nice trio.

Dennis68 · May 17th, 2008, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by chabby

Actually I like Neils solo better on that youtube clip than claptons!
Youre right about a visceral soulful experience. Its great - wow!

I think Neil can play electric guitar - don't fool your self

Me too! Neil is great all the way around. And i respect the fact he doens't sign on to commercial endorsements. He plays what he wants without attachment or obligation. that's an honesty that transends his work.

smitty54017 · May 17th, 2008, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Twanginator

His voice is a little pitchy, but I was very inspired as a young lad by his Harvest album. I've always thought he, Dylan, and Petty would make a nice trio.

Took the words outta my mouth. Dylan and Petty aren't the greatest singers, but they, like Neil, are unique. They're two guys you're still able to buy a CD of and actually find it worth the purchase price.

stephwills · May 17th, 2008, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by thaus

Have a listen to his Massey Hall perfomance from 1970.........just before the hits started. (I think this was his last release). Awesome performance, and interesting crowd reactions (or lack thereof) of his biggest songs since the record had yet to be released. It is a classic and you can hear his classic voice and very nice guitar playing.

Thanks for the recommendation, Thaus. I downloaded this album and have been listening to it off-and-on over the past 2 days. While I can't claim to have given it 100% of my attention, I will say, from my perspective, it's a really good introduction to his music. He really is/was (don't want to reopen this debate) a good guitar player.

I still don't care that much for his voice, but meh. Lately I've been focused more on songwriting than vocals/performance. And this album makes it very clear that the guy is one helluva songwriter. I anticipate listening to this album a lot over the next few weeks and months.

Thanks again! Nothing like "discovering" a guy who has 30+ years of records strung behind him ...

roadkillbill · May 18th, 2008, 06:25 AM

Check out Wolfgang's vault....join for free while you're there if you aren't signed up yet....Neil Young and Crazy Horse at the Fillmore, 1970..This is really great stuff, and if you don't get this, then I guess you would have just had to been there!

http://concerts.wolfgangsvault.com/d...1085-5023.html

They open with Come on Baby Let's go Downtown...what great memories...a version of this song got a lot of airplay on the local 'underground' AM station in 1970..

studebaker hawk · May 19th, 2008, 06:56 PM

www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Tat0kylWcg Doh! Maybe one day I figure out how to do this!

boris bubbanov · May 19th, 2008, 08:35 PM

Very nice to hear that recording of Danny. I was apprehensive; didn't want to be disappointed but that was close enough to the studio cut on "crazy horse" whilst having some nice grit to it. Very nice. never got to see Danny in concert before he took off and left us.

And there's a reminder that "wonderin" had already been figgered out by March, 1970. Who'd a thunk that?

boris bubbanov · May 19th, 2008, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Armstrong

I've loved Neil Young's music since I was a kid hearing "After The Goldrush" coming through the wall between my bedroom and my brother's.

My goodness, Tim, you certainly are a youngin'. I had already bought and totally assimilated 5 albums featuring Neil by the time "Goldrush" came out.

Amazing all the old chord changes and lead parts just fall in place. And I ain't even a lead guitarist! The Neil Young stuff BTW is much more intuitive (or is the word primitive) than the Springfield stuff.

chabby · May 19th, 2008, 11:17 PM

Danny WHitten was such a great addition to Neil's sound, it was a tough loss for Neil and a tough loss for Whitten fans like me.

bowman · May 20th, 2008, 01:20 PM

I've always loved Neil's music and have always been amused by the man himself. He gets the joke when there is one, and that's more than you can say for many more musically talented performers. There are a few very good guitar players who, around here, are considered Sacred Holy Icons - and they just bore me to tears. Obviously they shall remain nameless because I would never put down another person's likes or dislikes. I guess I just like my guitar players a little sloppy - more like me.

TelZilla · May 20th, 2008, 03:34 PM

love him. He's a genius.

Even the one note Solo in Cinnamon Girl

sultan59 · May 20th, 2008, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Guitar_Ninja

I always loved this one, though some of you might call it a piece of crap.

That was awesome! Never seen it before, made me laugh

I love Neil.

TWANGNUT · May 21st, 2008, 08:19 PM

Still don't like him....

chet · May 21st, 2008, 08:24 PM

I almost bought "Harvest" this weekend but didn't. Great album!

chet · May 21st, 2008, 08:25 PM

"After The Goldrush" was another classic album I must've played thousands of times when I was a teen.

May 16th, 2008, 11:52 PM	#81 (permalink)
stantheman Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: White Mountains Posts: 4,931	I think of Neil Young as a True Original. Period. Wish they'd get him to play at The Capitol Center in Concord. What an entertainer. A "citizen of the world". __________________ Somebody Loan Me A Dime

May 17th, 2008, 02:04 AM	#85 (permalink)
Tim Armstrong Moderator Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Berlin, Maryland, USA Age: 49 Posts: 8,912	I've loved Neil Young's music since I was a kid hearing "After The Goldrush" coming through the wall between my bedroom and my brother's. His acoustic guitar playing is sublime, and his electric stuff covers a lot more than just the flailing on Old Black (not that I don't dig the flailing, too!). But I gotta say, this album really sucked: But I forgive him! Cheers, Tim __________________ http://www.moodswingers.org

May 17th, 2008, 05:47 PM	#89 (permalink)
smitty54017 Tele-Meister Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: New Richmond, WI Age: 36 Posts: 365	I've never been a fan either, though he has had a couple of tunes I kinda like. I respect him for the fact that he does his own thing and doesn't sound like anyone else. He's not the polished, "radio friendly" type. He doesn't record music in an attempt to reach multi-platinum status. He's unique...you know it's Neil when you hear him. He still believes that music is an art form and expression of yourself. __________________ ----------------------------------------------------- Happy cows (and Packer fans) come from Wisconsin!

May 18th, 2008, 06:25 AM	#94 (permalink)
roadkillbill Tele-Holic Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Va. Posts: 580	Check out Wolfgang's vault....join for free while you're there if you aren't signed up yet....Neil Young and Crazy Horse at the Fillmore, 1970..This is really great stuff, and if you don't get this, then I guess you would have just had to been there! http://concerts.wolfgangsvault.com/d...1085-5023.html They open with Come on Baby Let's go Downtown...what great memories...a version of this song got a lot of airplay on the local 'underground' AM station in 1970.. __________________ It's all right now, in fact, it's a gas..

May 19th, 2008, 08:35 PM	#96 (permalink)
boris bubbanov Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: New Orleans, LA + in the past Posts: 7,674	Thanks, Roadkillbill Very nice to hear that recording of Danny. I was apprehensive; didn't want to be disappointed but that was close enough to the studio cut on "crazy horse" whilst having some nice grit to it. Very nice. never got to see Danny in concert before he took off and left us. And there's a reminder that "wonderin" had already been figgered out by March, 1970. Who'd a thunk that? __________________ Bubban0v

May 17th, 2008, 01:46 AM	#84 (permalink)
dhdfoster Tele-Holic Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: San Francisco, CA Age: 40 Posts: 945	I know his guitar playing is pretty rough, but he had childhood Polio, and I think that has a lot to do with his odd posture and crude guitar playing. Additionally, picking at his lead playing is like picking at Bob Dylan's harmonica playing, in that, it's just beside the point of the big picture. I'd put "lead guitar player" way down on the list of things that I love about him. Although, I do dig his absolutely primitive approach to solos.

May 17th, 2008, 03:10 AM	#86 (permalink)
chabby Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,259	Joh Backlund - If you want to hear Neil at his best get his studio perfect "Comes a Time " album. His singing on that album is absolutely stellar for anyobdy. His voice is perfect on every song. The songs are all perfectly done. That LP will show you his perfectionist side. Perfectly on key he is as well as in the best voice shape of his life. He plays all acoustic through out the whole LP with back up singing all around by the late, great Nicollette Larson. There is one song on which he plays piano even.

May 17th, 2008, 06:18 PM	#90 (permalink)
Twanginator Tele-Meister Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 243	His voice is a little pitchy, but I was very inspired as a young lad by his Harvest album. I've always thought he, Dylan, and Petty would make a nice trio.

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studebaker hawk Tele-Meister Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 165	www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Tat0kylWcg Doh! Maybe one day I figure out how to do this!

May 19th, 2008, 11:17 PM	#98 (permalink)
chabby Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,259	Danny WHitten was such a great addition to Neil's sound, it was a tough loss for Neil and a tough loss for Whitten fans like me.

May 20th, 2008, 01:20 PM	#99 (permalink)
bowman Tele-Meister Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Westborough, MA Age: 56 Posts: 377	I've always loved Neil's music and have always been amused by the man himself. He gets the joke when there is one, and that's more than you can say for many more musically talented performers. There are a few very good guitar players who, around here, are considered Sacred Holy Icons - and they just bore me to tears. Obviously they shall remain nameless because I would never put down another person's likes or dislikes. I guess I just like my guitar players a little sloppy - more like me.

May 20th, 2008, 03:34 PM	#100 (permalink)
TelZilla Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cleveburg, USA Age: 38 Posts: 1,842 6 Photos	love him. He's a genius. Even the one note Solo in Cinnamon Girl __________________ Thanks,Nick Nec Aspera Terrent

May 21st, 2008, 08:19 PM	#102 (permalink)
TWANGNUT Tele-Holic Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: fl Age: 36 Posts: 506 13 Photos	Still don't like him.... __________________ He who expecteth nothin' ain't gone be denied! Jerry Reed

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chet Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: The Jersey Shore Posts: 6,414	I almost bought "Harvest" this weekend but didn't. Great album! __________________ In Brett We Trust.

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chet Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: The Jersey Shore Posts: 6,414	"After The Goldrush" was another classic album I must've played thousands of times when I was a teen. __________________ In Brett We Trust.