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Old April 9th, 2008, 08:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Maybe a list a professional guitarists that are TDPRI'ers for the members?

That last thread went to hell with people that wanted to be Batman and others were told that they looked like somone!

Here are some that have been here before...

I have certainly missed some, but this is a great start!

John Beland
Bill Hullet
Nacho (legend in his own right)
Chad
Brad P.
Brent Mason's wife (to include Brent)
Ray Flacke
Ted Green
Forrest Lee Jr.
Lou Toomey
Will Ray
Redd Volkaert
Jim Campilongo
Bill Lawrence?
Johnny Hilands...?
Arlo West?
Elliot Easton?
B. Kirtchen? This one I don't actually know.
0Fzzy is good in my book!

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That last thread went to hell with people that wanted to be Batman and others were told that they looked like somone!
This one may be headed south, define "professional."
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Old April 9th, 2008, 08:25 PM   #3 (permalink)
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This one may be headed south, define "professional."
Oh God, here we go again!?
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Old April 9th, 2008, 08:29 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I was trying to help you out. As sure as you say professional, someone will say how many gigs a week/month/year? How many recordings? What level of success? This should be in Bad Dog anyway.
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I was trying to help you out. As sure as you say professional, someone will say how many gigs a week/month/year? How many recordings? What level of success? This should be in Bad Dog anyway.
OK, Thanks!

If Bad Dog so be it. I'm just trying to clear up the last post with this idea.


What I'm shootin' for here is recorded Telecaster player (or members of a recorded band) that have Nationaly or Internationaly released recordings, either with a band or alone --- That post here on TDPRI or have in the past.

I know this is hard if people pick at it enough, but lets just inspire ourselves.
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Old April 9th, 2008, 08:42 PM   #6 (permalink)
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James Calvin Wilsey
Jesse Jay Harris
Jere Mendelsohn
Stan Martin

the four of those guys are like the 4 horseman of the apocalypse. All killer players, all make money at it and all could be on any stage with anybody and hold there own.

There are more... but, the issue will continue to be---> some of the guys don't really want to stand out...

Chris Neel is here as well who is a crazy good player.

Guys like Jerry Hayes and BenderFreak and Woody and Stephen and Tim Bowen and Terry Downs have had long careers and deserve as much respect as anyone EVER on the TDPRI.... Shoot, I'll bet there could be 400-500 guys and gals on the list. Mandi's been on tv and has records as does her husband...
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Old April 9th, 2008, 08:50 PM   #7 (permalink)
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James Calvin Wilsey
Jesse Jay Harris
Jere Mendelsohn
Stan Martin

Mandi's been on tv and has records as does her husband...
Oh it is so nice to just find things out here lately! Thanks for the response!!!!!

I feel so bad that I forgot about Austin TX's own
Mandi!!!!!

Thare's another for the list!

What about 2 Tons of Steel's picker? Does he come around?
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It's old man anecdote time. You kids quiet down now, grandpa's going to talk. I said "SIT DOWN!!!" Okay grandpa go ahead....
When Eric Clapton finished with Cream he decided that he was going to research the roots of the blues and tour the south of the U.S. When he finished with the trip someone asked him how it went. He replied, "I'll tell you the truth, there were times when I was embarrassed to open my case." There are players on this forum who KICK ASS!!!!!
I have had the pleasure of hearing several of these fine players over the time I have been here. It isn't always about the crowds. Sometimes it's about the artistry and feel. I agree with Bent. There are players on this site who are everywhere as talented as any player on the charts. Some don't choose that path for themselves, but they deserve all the accolades and respect that any other player on the planet does.
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There are players on this site who are everywhere as talented as any player on the charts.
I get it! Are these players the Telecaster pickers that this post is about?

Who was the guy or gal that is someone that has had national recordings that is a member or "has been a member" of TDPRI that is an inspiration for all of us members to know about?
We're just looking for names that are famous or even semi-famous Telecaster players that have been here and talked Tele!

You left me hanging there...
Why is this so hard?????????????????
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Reggie Young use to Post here....check out his Discography sometime...be prepared for a lot of Scrollin.......
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Ken Lasaine is a session guy (I've learned a ton from him) and he knows a ton about the LA scene etc.

What about famous people here from other walks of life who also play tele?

Chris played with Gatton on several occasions and was friends with him.

There are lots and lots and lots of really accomplished folks here... I know it gets irreverent sometimes... but, I think that is mostly folks blowing off steam from their real life.

And there are more who wish to remain anonymous because they like to just be one of the gang here and want to have a conversation without the 'gravitas' of public perception.
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T-bird: I think that one of the reasons that it is so hard is that these guys may not be listing under their real names. I know that Colonel Robert Morris is in the Rockabilly Hall of Fame and had quite a career in the 60's and 70's. Not only that but he has a signature guitar as well.
Has Arlen Roth ever posted here?
Let me do a little more research.

I forgot Forrest Lee Jr. is a poster here. A real nice guy too. I know John Beland and he's a really decent guy and a tremendous producer.
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Hey I wonder if B.Paisley ever listened to my soundclick page and said. you know this boy is really messed up, I'm going to use one of his arpegiated DX7 synth lines in my new country album, perhaps some FAT hiphop beats, kinda do the whole Garth Brookes multipersona thing.. Or if he ever listened to Refin and said you know this guy is a pretty dang gone good picker, maybe I'll ask him if he wants to join the next tour???

Anyway delusions of granduer I suppose but a fun thought in its own way.

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I understand your question, T man, and your frustration. I think there are a couple of reasons for all the dancing around this topic.
First, as soon as we as members start singling out other members with our ranks, we create a "class divide" and whenever this happens, some good people end up feeling slighted because they find they may not appear to be on the side of that divide they'd prefer. A lot of feelings get hurt.

Then there's the idea that, to many, jumping in and saying "I'm recorded, have shared the stage with A, B and C, have appeared on television and films, have opened for X, Y and Z... etc" would look and feel like shameless self promotion. It's just not how a lot of people like to operate, and it's a part of what makes this place for me.

Third, fame or reknown are pretty subjective by audience member. We met Kirk Hammett on our honeymoon, and my wife had no idea who he was. You might not recognize some names that get mentioned. When our friends from outside the mainland USA tell us what's famous for them, I'm often left feeling clueless. In the end, it's best to assume that everyone is famous and you just haven't heard of them yet. It lends the necessity of judging work on merit.
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I understand your question, T man, and your frustration. I think there are a couple of reasons for all the dancing around this topic.
First, as soon as we as members start singling out other members with our ranks, we create a "class divide" and whenever this happens, some good people end up feeling slighted because they find they may not appear to be on the side of that divide they'd prefer. A lot of feelings get hurt.

Then there's the idea that, to many, jumping in and saying "I'm recorded, have shared the stage with A, B and C, have appeared on television and films, have opened for X, Y and Z... etc" would look and feel like shameless self promotion. It's just not how a lot of people like to operate, and it's a part of what makes this place for me.
I absolutely agree with you.

I'd like the TDPRI to be a place where we all are equal. I prefer to discuss a topic freely, without having to consider whether the person I'm discussing with is a famous picker or not.

I know some of you are, and that cannot be helped, but I'd prefer not to know ...
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... Why is this so hard?????????????????
My turn to hold the box now, maybe?

The box says ... no.

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I absolutely agree with you.

I'd like the TDPRI to be a place where we all are equal. I prefer to discuss a topic freely, without having to consider whether the person I'm discussing with is a famous picker or not.

I know some of you are, and that cannot be helped, but I'd prefer not to know ...
I can't see how a system of inequality would happen. By reading some of the post it sure sounds like some have already had differences of opinion than their famous? ........ semi famous? ......... once a gopher for Alabama's road crew?........changed string on Nana Mouskouri's wonderbra?..............counterparts and didn't get the boot because of it.

I feel confident living in my own skin to tell Geddy Lee (AnthemBassMan) right to his face in BOLD CAP LOCKED TEXT that he knows jack all about playing bass and to tell Keith Urban (Goldielocks) he knows nothing about singing..... and then to further tell Keith that Geddy is actually a better singer than he is. Brad Paisley (JMan) might even back me up and maybe a few of the regulars who are as low on the totem pole as I am thus nullifying the theory that a fifedom would spring from the seeds of this list.

Sorry it the medication talking
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I feel confident living in my own skin to tell Geddy Lee (AnthemBassMan) right to his face in BOLD CAP LOCKED TEXT that he knows jack all about playing bass and to tell Keith Urban (Goldielocks) he knows nothing about singing..... and then to further tell Keith that Geddy is actually a better singer than he is. Brad Paisley (JMan) might even back me up and maybe a few of the regulars who are as low on the totem pole as I am thus nullifying the theory that a fifedom would spring from the seeds of this list.

Sorry it the medication talking
Subversion! yeah!!!

Why talk about famous players when we can talk about the perpetual "something way more important":
Me!!!! "I" memememememem
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I can't see how a system of inequality would happen. By reading some of the post it sure sounds like some have already had differences of opinion than their famous? ........ semi famous? ......... once a gopher for Alabama's road crew?........changed string on Nana Mouskouri's wonderbra?..............counterparts and didn't get the boot because of it.

I feel confident living in my own skin to tell Geddy Lee (AnthemBassMan) right to his face in BOLD CAP LOCKED TEXT that he knows jack all about playing bass and to tell Keith Urban (Goldielocks) he knows nothing about singing..... and then to further tell Keith that Geddy is actually a better singer than he is. Brad Paisley (JMan) might even back me up and maybe a few of the regulars who are as low on the totem pole as I am thus nullifying the theory that a fifedom would spring from the seeds of this list.

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mandi dont live in Austin.

part of the reasons those folks come here is that we treat em like regular members of the board. You keep trying to put em on a pedestal.

and go learn who b. kirchen is, he is amazing.
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The box says ... no.

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Let them remain anonymous if you ask me. If their identities get out, what's to stop some members from bombarding them with PM's? If they want it to be known, they would let it be known. I understand why you want to know. Not blaming you for that.

It's the way things are now too. Everyone wants to know what the famous people are doing. I really don't want to know......it doesn't effect my world in the slightest......plus, I don't kiss ass real well!!
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I apologize in advance for the way this is going to sound, but....

We're all friends and comrades, perhaps, but are we really all equal? When we reply to a post some of us are guessing (like me, usually) and some of us know.

On the UMGF (the Martin board) I read these threads where someone will ask a question about top wood. He's lucky enough to get an answer from John Arnold who may have literally cut the log for that top and sold it to the Martin factory, who is working with the forest service to tag and protect red spruce for future instrument builders, and who is a world class luthier.
In short, perhaps the world's foremost expert on the topic.

Then the next poster who knows only what he read two years ago on the Martin website contradicts John and the original poster (and any lurkers) don't know who to believe.

I think we can all treat each other with equal respect, while still acknowledging that some of us have more expertise than others.

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I know for a fact that Seymour Lipschytz from the Pysenfinger Rhoomatoosies posts here under a pseudonym, and can you blame him? If word got out that he was here there would be total chaos with everyone wanting to talk to him.
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If they wanted to be recognized then they would've posted as thierselves. The whole thing of commuicating with people with anonymous usernames is kinda odd in the first place.

I would use my real name but the boss might not like it too much.
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I apologize in advance for the way this is going to sound, but....

We're all friends and comrades, perhaps, but are we really all equal? When we reply to a post some of us are guessing (like me, usually) and some of us know.

On the UMGF (the Martin board) I read these threads where someone will ask a question about top wood. He's lucky enough to get an answer from John Arnold who may have literally cut the log for that top and sold it to the Martin factory, who is working with the forest service to tag and protect red spruce for future instrument builders, and who is a world class luthier.
In short, perhaps the world's foremost expert on the topic.

Then the next poster who knows only what he read two years ago on the Martin website contradicts John and the original poster (and any lurkers) don't know who to believe.

I think we can all treat each other with equal respect, while still acknowledging that some of us have more expertise than others.

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I can't disagree with that. I'm a guesser, too. I think it's the poster's responsibility to qualify their answer and/or qualifications when appropriate. I try real hard to say "I'm guessing, but here's my guess" and I feel like a dingus when I'm wrong, but it's part of the knowlege transfer process. I reserve my right to be wrong as long as it keeps me learning.
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At least here, some of the famous or semi-famous or famous-only-to-Tele-freaks-like-us actually DO post under their real names.

I spend a lot of time at a recording-oriented board, and most of the pros use pseudonyms and are just guys. Funny, though, if you spend a little time reading and absorbing, you quickly realize who KNOWS and who doesn't! Even cooler to me is that there are folks posting there who've worked on Gold records and folks who haven't, and a few of the guys toiling in obscurity are really, really good and provide lots of very solid input, and they get every bit as much attention as the obvious pros.

Then there are hack hobbyists like me, who, once we've learned to think before we post, ask good questions when we're confused, and don't suck up to the legends, are welcome as part of the mix.

"Fame" is the result of skill (usually) meeting luck and opportunity (always), and I suspect that any well-adjusted musician who acquires fame would tell you that the only good thing about it, long-term, is that you sometimes get paid better...

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Yep, he surely has - Ringo, Mick Fleetwood, Phil Collins, Ginger Baker, Keith Moon and John Bonham never had a signature guitar!

And don't forget that CRM also invented Rockabilly......
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