He wasn't playing what you thought he played - Page 2

Mark Davis · March 7th, 2008, 12:06 AM

When I heard Eric Johnson play Red House I was sure it was a Strat but when I saw the DVD was surprised to see it was a 335!

Jackson Jackson · March 7th, 2008, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Blazer

According to EVH's website, the destroyer can also be heard on "Running with the devil" and was used to record rythm tracks while using the Frankenstein for doing leads, so it's all over the album really. Any solo on that album without whammy bar action is the destroyer.

Eddie with his destroyer on "Running with the devil"

Great clip :)

I'm convinced Eddie could could stick a broom handle in a toaster, plug it in, and he could make it sound like "Eddie".

geddins · March 7th, 2008, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by getbent

always thought 'drift away' had the ultimate tele tone played by my personal guitar god Reggie Young. Turns out it was a les paul... learned the hard way here on the TDPRI on a thread asking 'greatest tele tones' and yours truly rang in with this stellar example of tele goodness that was in fact just Reggie Young goodness. I was pretty embarrassed for about 5 minutes... then I shrugged my shoulders and thought "I guess tone is largely in the fingers".

I don't care what he was playin.....I love that work...and what Reggie did on Merle's "That's the Way Love Goes" is still one of my all-time favorites....I do like me some Reggie Young.

Mark Davis · March 7th, 2008, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by geddins

I don't care what he was playin.....I love that work...and what Reggie did on Merle's "That's the Way Love Goes" is still one of my all-time favorites....I do like me some Reggie Young.

Reggie is probably the most tasty studio player of all times. He plays just the right notes not too many but always fits the song perfect.

olewichita · March 7th, 2008, 02:36 AM

some reggie for getbent and mark... 1st picture is an american studios trade ad... 2nd picture is the back of the great for your precious love album by oscar toney... note the duosonic to stay on topic... reggie recorded a lot with gibsons BTW... 3rd picture is american studios where all the magic happened... 4th picture is elvis at american... including reggie, tommy cogbill, gene chrisman and dan penn... tj

Blazer · March 7th, 2008, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Telakaster

Hendrix played a '55 Les Paul Custom on 'Red House' and 'All Along the Watchtower'.

Pete Townsend played a Rickenbacker(model?) on 'We Won't Get Fooled Again'.

According to the "Electric ladyland" classic albums special Hendrix actually played his flying V on "Watchtower"

As for Townshend, he actually used a Gretsch Chet Atkins Nashville on "Won't get fooled again"

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Excerpt from Guitar Player, October 1989

Do you have a favorite period in your career, where you feel you broke down what you regarded as guitaristic barriers?

I think the significant moments have actually had a lot to do with guitars, actual guitars. Like being given an orange Gretsch Country Gentleman [sic] and an Edwards [volume] pedal by Joe Walsh, and being told exactly how to set up the amp to produce that amazing Neil Young noise, and using that sound on “Won’t Get Fooled Again” and “Bargain.”

Lonn · March 7th, 2008, 12:36 PM

OK I'll admit to some SERIOUS embarrassment. I'm 45 and have always been a huge music lover, but I only recently found out that Frankenstein by Edgar Winter was not played with a guitar. There, I said it out loud. I saw an old video and nearly fell out of my chair.

TG · March 7th, 2008, 01:04 PM

About the 'Hendrix on a tele' thing....from what I've read he used Noel Redding's tele only on some tracks, not the entire songs that were mentioned. But the Purple Haze solo was certainly the tele, apparently.

But maybe I'm wrong.

11 Gauge · March 7th, 2008, 01:43 PM

There's a few things that have thrown me for a loop, over the years.

First was Gilmour's awesome tone on Dogs. I couldn't understand how he was getting those gutsy sounds out of his Strats. Turns out he wasn't - they came from a Tele, tuned down to D...

The second is EJ's tone on Cliffs of Dover. I'd heard it a zillion times on the radio, and never equated it with being a Strat. I know that a bunch of it has to do with studio EQ slight of hand, Dumble amps and such, but still doesn't sound like a Strat to me.

The third thing that confounds me to this day is how great Jimi sounded live whenever he plugged that Flying V in. I much prefer it to most of his Strat stuff - it just sounds more raw and vibey, IMO. The Strat obviously wins the contest for the glassy clean tones, the talent bar, and would no doubt be more versatile in the studio, but live, IMO, the V and Jimi were symbiosis.

To this day, much of Zappa's live guitar work still confounds me. He's one of the few guys I've heard that could make a LP sound very Fenderish.

I'm pretty certain of one thing, though. I've never heard anyone other than Angus make an SG do what he can do with one. He makes that one guitar sound like a dozen different ones, IMO, depending on the song and solo. I'm continually floored whenever I hear AC/DC stuff...

Telakaster · March 7th, 2008, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Blazer

According to the "Electric ladyland" classic albums special Hendrix actually played his flying V on "Watchtower"

As for Townshend, he actually used a Gretsch Chet Atkins Nashville on "Won't get fooled again"

You just can't trust the internet.

Kid Muddy · March 7th, 2008, 02:56 PM

I always thought Skynyrd's "I Know A Little" had the quintessential Strat tone.

Then I found out Steve Gaines used his Les Paul on that song.

BillyG · March 7th, 2008, 06:18 PM

[quote=Originally Posted by BillyG
Page = Les Paul for most of my life. A part of me is still skeptical![/QUOTE]

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Originally Posted by dbarnes

Check out Jimmy Page playing a tele with the Yardbirds:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTO7WVxjz3A

Oh, I've seen it. The part of me that's skeptical is the kid in me that learned how to play by listening to Led Zep in Junior High School. I don't actually doubt that he played a Tele, it just shattered the image that I carried for 25 years. Skeptical is the wrong word. "In denial" would have been a better choice.

skyboltone · March 8th, 2008, 04:03 AM

Larry Carlton's best album, "Last Night" (live) includes a song called BP Blues. I've always in my minds eye seen him playing the 335 on that song. I even bought a Heritage H-535 just for that tone. Turns out he played it on a Valley Arts strat with EMGs. How can that be????

Unseen · March 9th, 2008, 05:35 AM

Okay the Ventures: Strats first, then Mosrite, right?

How about Nokie playing a Tele on Wipe-Out?:

tiktok · March 9th, 2008, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bernie

I'm pretty sure that tone is some kind of acoustic played through a tape deck as a preamp right into the board. I have the Guitar Player mag that has the description of the setup, but I'm at work right now...

I thought he said that he recorded the guitar part on acoustic, on a mono cassette recorder, so the internal limiter was pumping and the tape compressed it further, then they mic'ed the portable cassette recorder and used that as the guide track for everyone else. Charlie played one of those practice drum things that's mounted inside a briefcase--all the "drums" are mini tambourine sized things.

studio1087 · March 9th, 2008, 02:13 PM

I never new that Eric Lifeson played a Tele on many Rush hits. I always assumed that he played humbuckers on everything.

getbent · March 9th, 2008, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by studio1087

I never new that Eric Lifeson played a Tele on many Rush hits. I always assumed that he played humbuckers on everything.

is that alex's brother?

Unseen · March 9th, 2008, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by getbent

is that alex's brother?

Hahahaha!!! You're going to look pretty silly when he edits his post!

March 7th, 2008, 12:06 AM	#41 (permalink)
Mark Davis Doctor of Teleocity Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bakersfield Ca. Age: 58 Posts: 12,874	When I heard Eric Johnson play Red House I was sure it was a Strat but when I saw the DVD was surprised to see it was a 335! __________________ I'm so blind my seeing eye dog needs glasses.

March 7th, 2008, 01:43 PM	#49 (permalink)
11 Gauge Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: The East Coast Posts: 3,016 10 Photos	There's a few things that have thrown me for a loop, over the years. First was Gilmour's awesome tone on Dogs. I couldn't understand how he was getting those gutsy sounds out of his Strats. Turns out he wasn't - they came from a Tele, tuned down to D... The second is EJ's tone on Cliffs of Dover. I'd heard it a zillion times on the radio, and never equated it with being a Strat. I know that a bunch of it has to do with studio EQ slight of hand, Dumble amps and such, but still doesn't sound like a Strat to me. The third thing that confounds me to this day is how great Jimi sounded live whenever he plugged that Flying V in. I much prefer it to most of his Strat stuff - it just sounds more raw and vibey, IMO. The Strat obviously wins the contest for the glassy clean tones, the talent bar, and would no doubt be more versatile in the studio, but live, IMO, the V and Jimi were symbiosis. To this day, much of Zappa's live guitar work still confounds me. He's one of the few guys I've heard that could make a LP sound very Fenderish. I'm pretty certain of one thing, though. I've never heard anyone other than Angus make an SG do what he can do with one. He makes that one guitar sound like a dozen different ones, IMO, depending on the song and solo. I'm continually floored whenever I hear AC/DC stuff... __________________

March 8th, 2008, 04:03 AM	#53 (permalink)
skyboltone Tele-Meister Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: South San Francisco Age: 58 Posts: 338	Larry Carlton's best album, "Last Night" (live) includes a song called BP Blues. I've always in my minds eye seen him playing the 335 on that song. I even bought a Heritage H-535 just for that tone. Turns out he played it on a Valley Arts strat with EMGs. How can that be???? __________________ The last of the World's great human beings!.....well, OK, one of the last of the World's great human beings!.... Oh, OK, just a perfectly ordinary slacker......

March 9th, 2008, 05:35 AM	#54 (permalink)
Unseen Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 61 Posts: 1,724	Nokie Edwards & The Ventures (he's playing a tele!) Okay the Ventures: Strats first, then Mosrite, right? How about Nokie playing a Tele on Wipe-Out?:

March 9th, 2008, 02:13 PM	#56 (permalink)
studio1087 Friend of Leo's Join Date: May 2003 Location: Near Milwaukee Age: 44 Posts: 4,009 36 Photos	I never new that Eric Lifeson played a Tele on many Rush hits. I always assumed that he played humbuckers on everything. __________________ JLG Carry On

March 7th, 2008, 12:36 PM	#47 (permalink)
Lonn TDPRI Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Indiana Age: 46 Posts: 59	OK I'll admit to some SERIOUS embarrassment. I'm 45 and have always been a huge music lover, but I only recently found out that Frankenstein by Edgar Winter was not played with a guitar. There, I said it out loud. I saw an old video and nearly fell out of my chair.

March 7th, 2008, 01:04 PM	#48 (permalink)
TG Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Beside a bog in the west of Ireland Age: 47 Posts: 4,500 7 Photos	About the 'Hendrix on a tele' thing....from what I've read he used Noel Redding's tele only on some tracks, not the entire songs that were mentioned. But the Purple Haze solo was certainly the tele, apparently. But maybe I'm wrong.

March 7th, 2008, 02:56 PM	#51 (permalink)
Kid Muddy TDPRI Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Bruno, MN Age: 43 Posts: 27	I always thought Skynyrd's "I Know A Little" had the quintessential Strat tone. Then I found out Steve Gaines used his Les Paul on that song.