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Old March 5th, 2008, 09:27 PM   #41 (permalink)
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He said he wouldn't dig the nudity, so we have decided not to watch it.

Do you think I need to worry about my son since he doesn't want to see the nudity? (just kidding!!!!!!! )
Despite what some here think, it sounds like you're doing a good job with your son. He sounds like a great kid.

And I wouldn't be too concerned about the nudity thing. Watching certain parts of movies with parents can be quite awkward, especially at that age
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Old March 5th, 2008, 09:48 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Despite what some here think, it sounds like you're doing a good job with your son. He sounds like a great kid.
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Old March 5th, 2008, 10:56 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Let me add to this that any time you physically type... "I said I was going to let this go but I can't" is the time to turn off your computer and go do something else.

I can't tell you how many people have used the excuse, "I just had to say something". And you know what? You don't. You absolutely don't.

GB is right on with his chill out message. But please after you've chilled realize that your opinion is just that... yours and nothing more. Certainly it's not something you HAVE to share with the rest of us all the time.
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Old March 6th, 2008, 12:27 AM   #44 (permalink)
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this should help:

Sex & Nudity
There is a scene where a woman (Robin Mathews) takes off her tank top and bra after swimming in a river. The scene with her topless is about 5 minutes in length.

There is a scene in which you see Chris (Emile Hirsch) floating down a river naked. The scene is a few seconds long, and shot it is from a significant distance.

There is scene in which you see a nudist colony. There are images of a few full-frontal naked women.

There is a brief scene in which you see a couple (Catherine Keener and Brian Dierker) having sex; very little is shown.

Violence & Gore
Chris (Emile Hirsch) is beaten by a railroad official for riding a train without paying. There is also an especially gory scene of Chris gutting a moose in the wild.

Profanity
There are few instances in which the f-word and s-word are used.
Well, but let's face it: It's the American discomfort with nudity that makes the movie "R," isn't it? There are plenty of non-R movies with some degree of violence and profanity. I'm surprised it wasn't released as "unrated." (Most people don't know that "X" isn't part of the Hollywood rating system.
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Old March 6th, 2008, 06:30 AM   #45 (permalink)
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I can see both sides of the points made here, when I was 12 of course I wanted to see things off limits. When you are that age, it can be a race to see all these taboo things so yes an average 12 yr old would say they could handle it, but how would they possibly know.
If I had my way I would NOT have seen certain slasher films and NOT have seen pictures of naked women at age 13 like I did. The effect of these things are subtle to some, less to others. For myself, I would have liked to stay innocent a little longer instead of putting attention to sex, this is the curse of western "liberated" society.
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Old March 6th, 2008, 07:00 AM   #46 (permalink)
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This actually sounds like it might be a pretty good film, I'll have to check it out! (It's ok, I'm over 17 )
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Old March 6th, 2008, 12:20 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Well, but let's face it: It's the American discomfort with nudity that makes the movie "R," isn't it? There are plenty of non-R movies with some degree of violence and profanity. I'm surprised it wasn't released as "unrated." (Most people don't know that "X" isn't part of the Hollywood rating system.
NC-17 effectively replaced X in the MPAA ratings system, but X was definitely a creation of the MPAA. Triple X (XXX) was brought to us by the porno movie people. It was a marketing gimmick, designed to make the films sound more outrageous and taboo. Acclaimed films such as "Midnight Cowboy" and "A Clockwork Orange" were originally released with X ratings, then later re-released, sans cuts, as R. When X became associated with pornos -- which never went through the MPAA ratings process -- it became heavily stigmatized and non-sex films could no longer be effectively marketed as an X, nor could they be booked into mainstream theaters with that rating.

Once again, the movie ratings system in the U.S. is a creation of the MPAA, a Hollywood lobbying group formed by the majors studios. It is not mandated or enforced by laws, although I think it's safe to say that it was created as a self-policing system to placate politicals forces and keep the government out of its business/art.
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Old March 6th, 2008, 01:15 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Yea the ratings system seems kinda arbitrary to me. Some movies I've seen that have been rated R seemed alot tamer than some PG-13 movies. Like I said earlier, The Blues Brothers is R??? (hah sorry, I love that movie). Same with Scent of a Woman.

This is interesting:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_..._Rating_system
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Well, but let's face it: It's the American discomfort with nudity that makes the movie "R," isn't it? There are plenty of non-R movies with some degree of violence and profanity. I'm surprised it wasn't released as "unrated." (Most people don't know that "X" isn't part of the Hollywood rating system.
Probably, yeah, but more often than not, the R movies I've seen were rated as such because of profanity (f word and such) and/or graphic violence. Not even a bit of innuendo in many of them.

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