Can anyone identify this bender?

[JDC]

Any of you "eagle eyed" bender users have an idea what type bender this is? I've asked the seller about it but have received no reply. I can tell it's a saddle type bender which, AFAIK, limits it to being a Glaser/McVay/Shelton but I don't know which. The photos don't show any adjustment screws. I *think* that a Shelton may not have a spring tension adjustor whereas I know a Glaser does (that's what I have and am really all I'm familiar with) and I'm pretty sure a McVay does as well.

Thanks for looking

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1988-Fender-...item3378d64773

[braderrick]

Not 100% sure myself but I remeber seeing this one once before. I suspect glaser but not sure. I know the newer McVaay benders have his name on the lever I think, not sure if they always did or not though.

[PapaLion]

He hasn't really given you the shots you could use. I'd like to see the rear plate up close, for the bendrr arm? or the upper strap button? The bottom of the guitar too. There might be a screw and spring set up adjustable all the way thru which would end south of the bottom strap button a couple of inches. Wouldn't hurt to see the bridge much closer also.

As is who knows? Ask him to remove it from the guitar, then most the B-Bender guys will recognize who built it. They helped me figure out I had an ancient Glaser.

[JDC]

braderrick and PapaLion,

Thanks for the responses.

I have a Glaser and know what (and where) the tension and pitch adjustments are. That is what I was looking for in the photos, but I couldn't tell any better than you can. I was hoping that someone (perhaps by the saddle alone as that's about all there is to go on) might have a clue. Hopefully the seller will respond (or send more pics), but I'm not holding my breath.

That, in itself, raises a legitimate question.If I can't get an answer to a query, do I dare trust (even with his/her 99.6% positive feedback rating) that I'd get the guitar if I bought it?

Thanks again

[RBrooks]

Best guess Glaser , has the duncan stack in the middle which he installs alot also.

[Chet Johnson]

Not a mcvay, besides not having his name on the lever, the way the lever mounts is different. Www.mcvaybenders.com
I would say its most likely a glaser. It is possible that its a copy from someone like Bill Bores too. hIs glaser copy is pretty close to Glaser from what ive seen.

[DblStop]

Pretty sure it's a Glaser,it looks a lot like my Glaser bender. Joe did mine in the early 90's when he was still working out of Corner Music and I had my Tele back in a month.Not sure if his design has changed much over the years or not.

[JDC]

Dblstop

Joe did my bender during that same time period ( in early '89 while he was still working out of Corner Music). I didn't have to wait long, either...maybe 4 - 6 weeks. From what I hear, the wait is exponentially longer now.

I'd really be interested in the particular instrument that sparked my original question, IF the bender was a Glaser or at least a brand that offered a tension adjustment. Not so much because it's the "be all and end all" of telecasters but just because I've got it's "twin"..in gunmetal blue.

However, it doesn't appear as if the seller is able to/wants to/is going to answer my question.

[Bender GUY]

it is an early glaser look at the strap lever it is wider at the top then at the bottom his early benders did that and the the changer in the saddle is square by the height adjustment screws the later ones are rounded to fit the machined slot in the saddle and look at the fine tuner knob that is his also

[moonshiner]

I'd guess it's a B&W bender...

[braderrick]

I don't see how its even remotely like a b&w.

[moonshiner]

B&W has a kit that goes thru the neck plate... There aren't clear shots of the bridge end.. It's a guess.. But it could be almost anything..

[bender-freak]

Originally Posted by braderrick

I don't see how its even remotely like a b&w.

Bill has several "designs" he can do. He isn't locked into just one style of bender only. He can also do ya one on a Strat and keep the fully functioning tremolo for all 6 strings.

Is this one of his??? I don't know. I've seen/played several of his that are like that, and I've had my hands on some that ain't like that at all. And I KNOW they were made by Bill cause I saw/played them at his home/shop.

[braderrick]

I did not know any of this to be honest with you, I just assumed (and I do that much more than I should) that he only did the type with the strap button in the normal location. When you guys say B&W you are refering to Warford, correct? Bill Warford just got a bender finished for me and I am patiently awaiting its arrival. Should be here Thursday!

[braderrick]

Originally Posted by moonshiner

B&W has a kit that goes thru the neck plate... There aren't clear shots of the bridge end.. It's a guess.. But it could be almost anything..

Sorry for my ignorance again but I didn't know they offered a kit. I should really research this stuff a lil more...

[bender-freak]

Originally Posted by braderrick

I did not know any of this to be honest with you, I just assumed (and I do that much more than I should) that he only did the type with the strap button in the normal location. When you guys say B&W you are refering to Warford, correct? Bill Warford just got a bender finished for me and I am patiently awaiting its arrival. Should be here Thursday!

Yep, Billy Warford....nice guy.

[Ben Jammin']

My B & W bender activator is where the normal strap button is located.

I've never seen B & W place one anywhere else on a SINGLE bender.

Now the double benders, he would have to locate the second activator somewhere else, and the back plate is a logical choice.

BUT.....in most cases, that activator pulls out horizontially away from the guitar, not vertically, like the one shown.

My vote, early Glaser, or some "knock-off" variation.

And I don't mean anything derrogatory by using the term "knock-off".....just a variation that we haven't seen before.

If it works, the originator needs to step up and claim it. My pride sure would!!!

[bender-freak]

Originally Posted by Ben Jammin'

My B & W bender activator is where the normal strap button is located.

I've never seen B & W place one anywhere else on a SINGLE bender.

Now the double benders, he would have to locate the second activator somewhere else, and the back plate is a logical choice.

BUT.....in most cases, that activator pulls out horizontially away from the guitar, not vertically, like the one shown.

My vote, early Glaser, or some "knock-off" variation.

And I don't mean anything derrogatory by using the term "knock-off".....just a variation that we haven't seen before.

If it works, the originator needs to step up and claim it. My pride sure would!!!

He did one for me about 10 years ago that was just a B bender that operated off the neck-plate exactly as pictured, and I added a highly modified Hipshot to it, I no longer have the guitar or I would post a pic of it. I know it was a B&W install cause I delivered the guitar to him and picked it up at his house 2weeks later. I played one of his very first dual bender rigs he did for a now deceased fellow bender player. The "set-up" looked NOThing like anything he does now. I ain't saying that is absolutely a B&W bender in the O.P., but it looks like the one he did for me.