Marty playing Clarence White's old Tele (youtube)

BrianF · May 7th, 2008, 12:15 PM

Clarence White forum member 'bossaroo' was nice enough to post this at the CW forum...here's a link.

Mike Dickerson · May 7th, 2008, 12:24 PM

Country done the right way. Nuff said.

getbent · May 7th, 2008, 12:49 PM

whew! that is everything I like right there!

nasonm · May 7th, 2008, 01:03 PM

Kenny Vaughan is the best partner for Marty's playing.

The only thing more notorious than Marty's playing is his hair!

BrianF · May 7th, 2008, 02:50 PM

Marty's tone seems like pure Clarence there. Is he using any pedals or is at all Tele and Fender Twins? Anyone know?

flyingb54 · May 7th, 2008, 04:11 PM

Man, thats the real deal! I actually played that guitar a few times when Clarence had it. Lots of memories seeing Marty fly on it. He's a class act..
Man, these boys were smoking. Love it!!!!!
JB
www.johnbeland.com

maestrovert · May 7th, 2008, 04:16 PM

Yessirree, that wuz killer diller !

Thanx Bro'

Johnny Isaacs · May 7th, 2008, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianF

Marty's tone seems like pure Clarence there. Is he using any pedals or is at all Tele and Fender Twins? Anyone know?

Great stuff! The only thing Marty uses these days is a Demeter Tremolo, Morley Volume pedal and an Ibanez TS-9 for boosts. That there was Clarence's tele plugged into the two silverface Twins!

Great stuff!

Johnny Isaacs

hotraman · May 8th, 2008, 11:05 AM

What a great way to start off the day...
I'll take two Tele's with my coffee, please!

Thanks for the post!

hotraman · May 8th, 2008, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Isaacs

Great stuff! The only thing Marty uses these days is a Demeter Tremolo, Morley Volume pedal and an Ibanez TS-9 for boosts. That there was Clarence's tele plugged into the two silverface Twins!

Great stuff!

Johnny Isaacs

Less is more, right?
Glad Clarence's Tele is in the hands of a good person, keeping that style
of music alive!

Wardpike · May 8th, 2008, 02:20 PM

Oh that was so cool!! Thanks so much for posting this, it gave me a big old grin!

nashwest · May 8th, 2008, 05:04 PM

And thats how its done..........Any questions?

Gunslinger · May 10th, 2008, 01:29 PM

Cheers for posting that mate.....

have a beer on me

gawd darm Kenny is cool

Gunslinger · May 10th, 2008, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Isaacs

Great stuff! The only thing Marty uses these days is a Demeter Tremolo, Morley Volume pedal and an Ibanez TS-9 for boosts. That there was Clarence's tele plugged into the two silverface Twins!

Great stuff!

Johnny Isaacs

Ah.... you might find only one of the silvertwins is running hence only one mike, the other one is no doubt a spare in case the first malfunctions in any way... common practice i think

Scotty

hotraman · May 10th, 2008, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunslinger

Ah.... you might find only one of the silvertwins is running hence only one mike, the other one is no doubt a spare in case the first malfunctions in any way... common practice i think

Scotty

Good observation about one mic, but they may have done that for TV.
I bet he plays with both amps for a fuller live sound.
The new POD X3L has several amp models that does this, its pretty cool sounding.
Can anyone else comment on this ( people who run two amps at once?)

BrianF · May 10th, 2008, 05:36 PM

You only need to mic one amp for the mix into the PA. He have been using both though...but it's impossible to know just from this video.

Rick Towne · May 10th, 2008, 11:12 PM

..............

BrianF · May 11th, 2008, 12:22 AM

Give him time...I give him an A for effort and the Mudcrutch CD has a very cool vibe missing from alot of modern music.

byrdbrain · May 11th, 2008, 03:40 AM

What a great sound!
An outstanding guitar in truly gifted hands.

Gunslinger · May 11th, 2008, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hotraman

Good observation about one mic, but they may have done that for TV.
I bet he plays with both amps for a fuller live sound.
The new POD X3L has several amp models that does this, its pretty cool sounding.
Can anyone else comment on this ( people who run two amps at once?)

Really.... He's not running both at the same time.... one is a spare, the only reason you'd run 2 amps at once is if you're using them for different sounds (line split)... I.E. Driven/clean, your using a stereo rig or you have a line splitter for different guitars.

Trust me I'm a doctor....

Scotty

BrianF · May 12th, 2008, 12:09 PM

This is really cool on a couple of different levels...

First..it's a fun song to listen to and to watch. These guys are clearly having a great time and playing great music. Second, it's great to hear Clarence's guitar being played and to hear THAT tone being played with the right bender licks. Third...it's fun to break down and analyze and learn Marty's licks with the Amazing Slow Downer and then realize they are the same licks that we've heard before and know how to play...just that they are being executed really well in a band / song context. Fourth, Marty's playing not only whole note bends, but seeing Clarence's long throw in action makes you realize that it was / is just as easy to play half note bends for bluesy bender riffs.. This harder with a short throw BTW.

On another level...one always wonders what if? What if Clarence were still alive? For one thing this video of Marty playing 'Clarence' wouldn't exist... Then again would it be Clarence playing this? I don't think so... If I recall...Johnny Issacs sent me a YouTube link of Marty playing this tune at a different gig and if I recall...it was basically identical... In other words Marty and band have played this song almost identically note for note night after nite...which explains why the band is so tight (besides obvious talent).

But would Clarence be playing something like this? I don't think so because what we know about Clarence was that he would never play the same thing twice... He was constantly re-inventing himself and his licks every time he played. There would a zillion version of the same song that would be equally cool but unique. I also don't imagine that Clarence would have a song segment where he would trade harmony and unision licks (by rote) such as Marty and Kenny Vaughn played...

That sort of regimented type showy stuff somehow doesn't fit with Clarence.. which then leads to .... Would he have fit in Nashville's strict formula of regimented playing country? hmm... What do you all think?

flyingb54 · May 12th, 2008, 01:36 PM

My thoughts on "what if Clarence was still alive" are this. While he WAS alive he was very much working in a regimented session scene in LA, playing on records by the Monkees & Everlys, as well as the loose sessions like the Byrds, Maria Maulder etc.

That said, Clarence was a stylist, and stylists for the most part are not welcomed in Nashville's session scene. Producers do not lean towards One Trick Ponies, regardless of how amazing & influencial these stylists are.

Case in point, my friend Ray Flake had an extremely difficult time getting session work ( on a steady basis) after he left Ricky Skaggs. Times were very hard for him for years after Skaggs. He was just to left field for Nashville producers. What a shame.

Also, James Burton's session success was do, inpart, to the fact he was a much more dicipined, versitile player than Clarence, who could adopt to movie soundtrack work, jingles, as well as hipper sessions like Emmylou and others. But even James was limited to what he could play on those dates. Although he was one of the top session guys of the 60's and 70's, James played a very submissive role as a session player and his work never reached the constant commercial exposer as a Brent Mason.

Knowing Clarence, as I did, I just couldn't see him walking inthe same shoes as Brent Mason. And Visa Versa too. Clarence would have certainly followed his own drummer. Session playing ( ona day to day basis) requires a certain creative but submissive mind set. If Brent is reading this he knows that what I am saying is true.

Thats not taking a thing away from Clarence. I just believe that he woudl have passed on session work to tour and play worldwide on his own.

I believe Clarence would have followed along the same path as Albert Lee and toured worldwide with a variety of bands. But I could never see him working within the strict boundries of today's Music Row record production. He just was not that kind of a player. However, Clarence was a genious player. The likes of which we may never see again.
JB
www.johbeland.com

Wardpike · May 12th, 2008, 01:38 PM

Ok gang, I tried the PM route, but no joy.

What's the name of this song, please?
My thoughts from the lyrics:
"Countryboy Rock n Roll'
"I've been a rockin, I've been a rollin"
"Make a fool out of me."

Can anyone help me out here?

Many thanks in advance,

Ward

nashwest · May 12th, 2008, 02:04 PM

Its a Don Reno tune............bluegrass

tonytrout · May 12th, 2008, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianF

Marty's tone seems like pure Clarence there. Is he using any pedals or is at all Tele and Fender Twins? Anyone know?

From Johnny's post below...it seems that Marty was using the Ibanez TS-9 for boosts.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Isaacs

Great stuff! The only thing Marty uses these days is a Demeter Tremolo, Morley Volume pedal and an Ibanez TS-9 for boosts. That there was Clarence's tele plugged into the two silverface Twins!

Great stuff!

Johnny Isaacs

This video was actually posted here a few days before Brian posted this thread, I think....I've already favorited the video on YouTube...just wish I knew of some way to download it to my 'puter to view whenever I want to....

SHAMELESS PLUG WARNING:

I get to see THAT guitar and THAT hair of Marty's up close and personal on July 17, 2008 when the band I'm in opens for him (two shows) at 2:00 p.m. & 8:00 p.m., baby) Thi

May 7th, 2008, 12:15 PM	#1 (permalink)
BrianF Friend of Leo's Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Carlsbad, Ca Posts: 2,096 7 Photos	Marty playing Clarence White's old Tele (youtube) Clarence White forum member 'bossaroo' was nice enough to post this at the CW forum...here's a link.

May 7th, 2008, 12:49 PM	#3 (permalink)
getbent Moderator Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: San Benito County, California Age: 48 Posts: 8,732 37 Photos	whew! that is everything I like right there! __________________ I got a room at the top of the world tonight, I got a room at the top of the world tonight, and I ain't... comin'... down.

May 7th, 2008, 01:03 PM	#4 (permalink)
nasonm Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bangor, Maine Age: 31 Posts: 1,543 16 Photos	Kenny Vaughan is the best partner for Marty's playing. The only thing more notorious than Marty's playing is his hair! __________________ "i have learned to just grit my teeth, change the subject, consider their deep total ignorance, fondle the thumb picks in my pocket and go on my way" - bender-freak It's been lonely in the saddle since my horse died

May 7th, 2008, 04:11 PM	#6 (permalink)
flyingb54 Tele-Holic Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: BRENHAM TEXAS Age: 59 Posts: 810	Man, thats the real deal! I actually played that guitar a few times when Clarence had it. Lots of memories seeing Marty fly on it. He's a class act.. Man, these boys were smoking. Love it!!!!! JB www.johnbeland.com __________________ "Son, that has nothing to do with nothin'"....Bill Monroe

May 7th, 2008, 04:16 PM	#7 (permalink)
maestrovert Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: West Branch Mi. Posts: 5,835	Yessirree, that wuz killer diller ! Thanx Bro' __________________ Sing the Song Bro' Play on Drummer www.godonthe.net

May 7th, 2008, 12:24 PM	#2 (permalink)
Mike Dickerson Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Paragould Arkansas Age: 47 Posts: 238	Country done the right way. Nuff said.

May 7th, 2008, 02:50 PM	#5 (permalink)
BrianF Friend of Leo's Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Carlsbad, Ca Posts: 2,096 7 Photos	Marty's tone seems like pure Clarence there. Is he using any pedals or is at all Tele and Fender Twins? Anyone know?

May 8th, 2008, 11:05 AM	#9 (permalink)
hotraman Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Camas, WA Posts: 220	What a great way to start off the day... I'll take two Tele's with my coffee, please! Thanks for the post! __________________ www.stevehotra.com

May 8th, 2008, 02:20 PM	#11 (permalink)
Wardpike Tele-Holic Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: St. John's, Newfoundland Age: 43 Posts: 585	Oh that was so cool!! Thanks so much for posting this, it gave me a big old grin!

May 8th, 2008, 05:04 PM	#12 (permalink)
nashwest TDPRI Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Manassas Posts: 16	And thats how its done..........Any questions?

May 10th, 2008, 01:29 PM	#13 (permalink)
Gunslinger Tele-Meister Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cheshire • England Posts: 234	Cheers for posting that mate..... have a beer on me gawd darm Kenny is cool

May 10th, 2008, 05:36 PM	#16 (permalink)
BrianF Friend of Leo's Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Carlsbad, Ca Posts: 2,096 7 Photos	You only need to mic one amp for the mix into the PA. He have been using both though...but it's impossible to know just from this video.

May 10th, 2008, 11:12 PM	#17 (permalink)
Rick Towne Tele-Holic Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Woodland Hills, CA Posts: 801	Mike Campbell should watch that video..... ..............

May 11th, 2008, 12:22 AM	#18 (permalink)
BrianF Friend of Leo's Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Carlsbad, Ca Posts: 2,096 7 Photos	Give him time...I give him an A for effort and the Mudcrutch CD has a very cool vibe missing from alot of modern music.

May 11th, 2008, 03:40 AM	#19 (permalink)
byrdbrain Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sweden Age: 50 Posts: 1,188 4 Photos	What a great sound! An outstanding guitar in truly gifted hands. __________________ In vino securitas

May 12th, 2008, 12:09 PM	#21 (permalink)
BrianF Friend of Leo's Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Carlsbad, Ca Posts: 2,096 7 Photos	This is really cool on a couple of different levels... First..it's a fun song to listen to and to watch. These guys are clearly having a great time and playing great music. Second, it's great to hear Clarence's guitar being played and to hear THAT tone being played with the right bender licks. Third...it's fun to break down and analyze and learn Marty's licks with the Amazing Slow Downer and then realize they are the same licks that we've heard before and know how to play...just that they are being executed really well in a band / song context. Fourth, Marty's playing not only whole note bends, but seeing Clarence's long throw in action makes you realize that it was / is just as easy to play half note bends for bluesy bender riffs.. This harder with a short throw BTW. On another level...one always wonders what if? What if Clarence were still alive? For one thing this video of Marty playing 'Clarence' wouldn't exist... Then again would it be Clarence playing this? I don't think so... If I recall...Johnny Issacs sent me a YouTube link of Marty playing this tune at a different gig and if I recall...it was basically identical... In other words Marty and band have played this song almost identically note for note night after nite...which explains why the band is so tight (besides obvious talent). But would Clarence be playing something like this? I don't think so because what we know about Clarence was that he would never play the same thing twice... He was constantly re-inventing himself and his licks every time he played. There would a zillion version of the same song that would be equally cool but unique. I also don't imagine that Clarence would have a song segment where he would trade harmony and unision licks (by rote) such as Marty and Kenny Vaughn played... That sort of regimented type showy stuff somehow doesn't fit with Clarence.. which then leads to .... Would he have fit in Nashville's strict formula of regimented playing country? hmm... What do you all think?

May 12th, 2008, 01:36 PM	#22 (permalink)
flyingb54 Tele-Holic Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: BRENHAM TEXAS Age: 59 Posts: 810	My thoughts on "what if Clarence was still alive" are this. While he WAS alive he was very much working in a regimented session scene in LA, playing on records by the Monkees & Everlys, as well as the loose sessions like the Byrds, Maria Maulder etc. That said, Clarence was a stylist, and stylists for the most part are not welcomed in Nashville's session scene. Producers do not lean towards One Trick Ponies, regardless of how amazing & influencial these stylists are. Case in point, my friend Ray Flake had an extremely difficult time getting session work ( on a steady basis) after he left Ricky Skaggs. Times were very hard for him for years after Skaggs. He was just to left field for Nashville producers. What a shame. Also, James Burton's session success was do, inpart, to the fact he was a much more dicipined, versitile player than Clarence, who could adopt to movie soundtrack work, jingles, as well as hipper sessions like Emmylou and others. But even James was limited to what he could play on those dates. Although he was one of the top session guys of the 60's and 70's, James played a very submissive role as a session player and his work never reached the constant commercial exposer as a Brent Mason. Knowing Clarence, as I did, I just couldn't see him walking inthe same shoes as Brent Mason. And Visa Versa too. Clarence would have certainly followed his own drummer. Session playing ( ona day to day basis) requires a certain creative but submissive mind set. If Brent is reading this he knows that what I am saying is true. Thats not taking a thing away from Clarence. I just believe that he woudl have passed on session work to tour and play worldwide on his own. I believe Clarence would have followed along the same path as Albert Lee and toured worldwide with a variety of bands. But I could never see him working within the strict boundries of today's Music Row record production. He just was not that kind of a player. However, Clarence was a genious player. The likes of which we may never see again. JB www.johbeland.com __________________ "Son, that has nothing to do with nothin'"....Bill Monroe

May 12th, 2008, 01:38 PM	#23 (permalink)
Wardpike Tele-Holic Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: St. John's, Newfoundland Age: 43 Posts: 585	Ok gang, I tried the PM route, but no joy. What's the name of this song, please? My thoughts from the lyrics: "Countryboy Rock n Roll' "I've been a rockin, I've been a rollin" "Make a fool out of me." Can anyone help me out here? Many thanks in advance, Ward

May 12th, 2008, 02:04 PM	#24 (permalink)
nashwest TDPRI Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Manassas Posts: 16	Its a Don Reno tune............bluegrass