StuH
November 17th, 2007, 08:02 PM
I was kinda thinking about ditching my pc and Sonar for a new Mac and run Logic with all my Waves plugins instead but I've noticed this:
http://www.digidesign.com/index.cfm?navid=48&langid=100&itemid=28065
http://www.wavesupport.net/Content.aspx?id=3999
http://logicprohelp.com/viewtopic.php?p=85103&sid=a3d8c19f81b22cb2cd6693c70d940add
http://www.macwindows.com/leopard_net_bugs.html
http://forum.cubase.net/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=81218
....and of course the list goes on. Seems like this is not just a pc Vista phenomena
getbent
November 17th, 2007, 08:15 PM
I definitely think you should wait if you are going to protools.
The rest will be addressed in short order. If you are going to use Logic there is no reason to wait. The differences between what MS is doing with Vista and Tiger to Leopard are pretty large. The XP/Vista upgrade is much more like the migration from OS9 to OSX while the Tiger to Leopard is a serious polishing and extension of existing technologies.
2.2 million users upgraded to Leopard in the first two weeks. When you search the links with problems and the overall number of folks running the software, while it is never okay to have problems, the total number of problems have been considerably fewer than most folks predicted.
I'm using Leopard with Logic and have no complaints. And, since I have been using it for several months (using betas) I have posted several tracks using it in twanger central. I have not had freezes or out of memory errors and I promise you if I was having problems I'd warn my brethren here on the tdpri because I wouldn't want to hear the complaints.:grin:
The windows installed base is vastly larger than the mac installed base so the total number of problems will be greater... but from my pc buddies who record they have all told me that they have more problems than I do but they also run free software and frequently on underpowered machines.
You can get both platforms to work although I think if you have mission critical recording to do, you may want to wait on Vista and unless you are running logic, I'd wait on the leopard side until the first of the year. Lots of vendors are hustling to get stuff done for the holidays.
Tdot
November 17th, 2007, 09:56 PM
Or... now is the time to grab one of the last group of Mac's with Tiger installed, and get the Leopard update. I believe the new Mac's have just started to ship with Leopard so there may even be some deals on Tiger machines.
petebradt
November 29th, 2007, 01:20 PM
I definitely think you should wait if you are going to protools.
d00d, this is why we have multiple partitions. Tiger partition exclusively for PT, Leopard for the main partition.
I've heard about so few bugs, I may break my "six-month" rule and buy Leopard soon.
getbent
November 29th, 2007, 06:16 PM
Pete, you're right you can absolutely do what you are saying. If you are a logic user you should upgrade... logic 8 and leopard were made for each other... garageband & leopard work great too...
You can absolutely do the two partition thing... but if you just want one OS and you are using PT... the first of the year should bring some happy tidings.
StuH
November 30th, 2007, 02:29 AM
Getbent could you find out if Sonar 6 is living happily with Mac doing bootcamp?
And can boot camp take any windows OS? If so I am intersted in a Mac for next recording comp purchase. I know XP is a rock solid with this software. Wouldn't mind trying Logic too, hear lots of nice things about it.
getbent
November 30th, 2007, 03:12 AM
Stuh,
I have been asking internally if anyone has it running and so far the answer is no answer... nobody has it that I know. I've got two other messages to engineers I know and I know what they are gonna ask... "do I have sonar?"
I'll keep looking to see if someone has done it... I cannot imagine why it would not work.
check this out! (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=392742) the guys comments are a little bit of a head shaker for me... but the gist is... it works.
Limitations in Bootcamp under leopard=runs XP and Vista only.
Limitations under parallels = will run 95, mac os 7, 8, 9, Win 98, ME, NT, 2000 etc...
VM ware = don't know... can check... what I hear is that it is really flexible and very good.
Logic 8 is crazy. I just need time off and some isolation and I can make some good stuff.... I just got home from a gig and I wish I could go play right now, but I have meetings in the am... I had two big presentations today.. I'm tired, but i wanna go record!
JStella
November 30th, 2007, 07:49 AM
VM ware = don't know... can check... what I hear is that it is really flexible and very good.
VMWare will run any OS that uses the CPU you have on the machine. Linux, Windows, DOS, OS/2 - doesn't matter. You basically have a configurable Intel/AMD PC inside your Computer. One other really great thing about VMs is that you can snapshot them at any point in time. This is especially good for Windows where over time the registry and other parts accumulate crud. I make a VM for each major app I run under Windows and only install one app in each VM. I think once you've used VMs it's hard to go back to one OS instance...
- Josh