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Fret buzz troubleshoot

inscho
March 1st, 2007, 04:26 PM
Last night I installed an allparts neck on my tele project and strung it up....It seems to play perfect up to the 6th-7th fret, any string fretted after that touches the frets and buzzes like a sitar.

would this more than likely be a saddle adjustment? the neck doesn't seem to have any bowing problems...but the saddles are fairly high as it is.

Jack Wells
March 1st, 2007, 04:29 PM
Could be saddle height .................could be lack of relief (upbow of the neck........ you want a little). Capo first fret and hold down string at last fret. You should have a gap between 8th fret and string.

inscho
March 1st, 2007, 04:35 PM
Could be saddle height .................could be lack of relief (upbow of the neck........ you want a little). Capo first fret and hold down string at last fret. You should have a gap between 8th fret and string.

excellent! I'll check that when I get off work...it did seem to have a little bit of bow...but I assumed it was normal.

now for a really rediculous question...if I do in fact need to adjust the truss rod, how do I access it on a tele? :oops:

you adjust at the body right? I can see maybe 1/2 of it with the pickguard off...there isn't a notch in my tele body to get to it....

Jack Wells
March 1st, 2007, 04:58 PM
I have no personal experience with AllParts necks. I don't know what sort of tool is required for the heel adjustment. If you can't access it, you may have to remove the neck. You might consider cutting the notch between the neck pocket and pickup cavity.

jeffhigh
March 1st, 2007, 05:04 PM
my guess would be that you have two things wrong
-bridge saddles too low causing buzzing to the frets above 6
-relief too high allowing the strings to slill sound on the lower frets despite the low saddles

Check relief and set (you will need to remove or loosen the neck bolts) then raise the saddles as necessary.

inscho
March 1st, 2007, 05:09 PM
I have no personal experience with AllParts necks. I don't know what sort of tool is required for the heel adjustment. If you can't access it, you may have to remove the neck. You might consider cutting the notch between the neck pocket and pickup cavity.

its like the one on the right:

http://www.guitarhq.com/fenddiff/repro_truss_rod_nuts.jpg

photoweborama
March 1st, 2007, 05:11 PM
On those types of necks, I've taken them off to adjust them. It is a pain because you have to string it up again to see if you have it right. May have to do it few times. Then dump your strings because they can get weak and intonation can go off when they have been slacked and re-tightened over and over again.

When I wrote for the mag, I had to change pickups and wiring a lot and I leaned this the hard way..

I know it is hind sight now, but they do make a modern neck with the adjustment at the headstock, instead of the vintage location.

inscho
March 1st, 2007, 05:13 PM
my guess would be that you have two things wrong
-bridge saddles too low causing buzzing to the frets above 6
-relief too high allowing the strings to slill sound on the lower frets despite the low saddles

Check relief and set (you will need to remove or loosen the neck bolts) then raise the saddles as necessary.

when you say the relief is too high...do you mean the neck is bowed up too much? I don't think thats the case, because the neck didn't appear to be bowed anymore than it should be....looks the same as my other guitars that have been professionally setup by a tech.

I'll cross my fingers that its just the saddles.

inscho
March 1st, 2007, 05:19 PM
On those types of necks, I've taken them off to adjust them. It is a pain because you have to string it up again to see if you have it right. May have to do it few times. Then dump your strings because they can get weak and intonation can go off when they have been slacked and re-tightened over and over again.

When I wrote for the mag, I had to change pickups and wiring a lot and I leaned this the hard way..

I know it is hind sight now, but they do make a modern neck with the adjustment at the headstock, instead of the vintage location.

yeah that does seem like a pain...luckily the neck only cost me 150 with the tuners and hardware.

thanks everyone for the advice!

inscho
March 2nd, 2007, 10:03 AM
I raised the saddles and it still buzzed...there was in fact too much relief on the neck...I adjusted the truss rod and now there is no buzz up to the 15th fret.

so there is some improvement :lol:

woodman
March 2nd, 2007, 04:49 PM
you may need a reverse shim -- one up toward the neck end of the pocket.

inscho
March 2nd, 2007, 05:35 PM
you may need a reverse shim -- one up toward the neck end of the pocket.

I guess I'll have to take it to my tech anyways...