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thats it

wompum
December 18th, 2006, 11:19 PM
I'm done with guitar, i can't get faster at all. My dam right hand is to slow. Where is a good place to sell a guitar? thanks

BritishBluesBoy
December 18th, 2006, 11:22 PM
Oh man... How long have you been playing?? Don't quit just like that... It takes time... Anyway, it ain't all about speed...

Maybe you just need to leave it alone for a few days... come back to it again when you feel better about it??

furrfurrfurr
December 18th, 2006, 11:22 PM
I'm done with guitar, i can't get faster at all. My dam right hand is to slow. Where is a good place to sell a guitar? thanks


:eek:

wompum
December 18th, 2006, 11:25 PM
Playing for 3 1/3 months. I can play songs ive practiced into the ground fast, but my speed is still crap. Maybe a yard sell?

morroben
December 18th, 2006, 11:26 PM
I hope speed isn't that important or I'll have to sell all of mine, too.

BritishBluesBoy
December 18th, 2006, 11:28 PM
Playing for 3 1/3 months. I can play songs ive practiced into the ground fast, but my speed is still crap. Maybe a yard sell?

Dude... I've been playing for over 30 years and I still need to work on stuff. Stick with it, you've really only just begun...

wompum
December 18th, 2006, 11:28 PM
My picking skillls are like a cerebral pualsey worst nightmare.

RelicStrat
December 18th, 2006, 11:30 PM
Playing for 3 1/3 months. I can play songs ive practiced into the ground fast, but my speed is still crap. Maybe a yard sell?Is this a joke? 3 1/3 months? I've been playing over 30 years, and I can't play as fast as I would like. Heck I've heard Chet say he can't play fast compared to some others. Give it another 30 years or so before you decide to give it up. What kind of music are you playing? You may try tossing the flatpick and using thumbpick and fingers. That's what I've done in the past year, and it has done wonders for my playing.

wompum
December 18th, 2006, 11:34 PM
i practiced ever day for an hour or more, i feel good about it then i realise im a hack. I have a good ear musicly you know figuring out by ear, notes snd crap like that. O well life lessons

BritishBluesBoy
December 18th, 2006, 11:36 PM
Man... you've only just started. A few months is nothing... It takes time and effort. If it was that easy we'd all sound like Hendrix...

wompum
December 18th, 2006, 11:38 PM
chuck barry is not easy. at least i bought a good guitar.

RelicStrat
December 18th, 2006, 11:40 PM
Well like anything in life, if you want to get good at something you have to practice, practice, practice. And it takes years of practice. The best players in the world have spent years and years woodshedding to get where they are. It don't come easy.

BritishBluesBoy
December 18th, 2006, 11:43 PM
So, this where you want someone to ask you what guitar you bought right...??

Well go on then... tell us...?

The Cypher
December 18th, 2006, 11:44 PM
Quit now...the guitar makes no sense!

wompum
December 18th, 2006, 11:47 PM
tele of corse, Any suggestions on speed?

furrfurrfurr
December 18th, 2006, 11:49 PM
practice or quit. it's that simple.

BritishBluesBoy
December 18th, 2006, 11:50 PM
Practice...

wompum
December 18th, 2006, 11:53 PM
practice what. Everbody know to practice, but what to to practice? BTW my alt picking sucks.

The Cypher
December 18th, 2006, 11:53 PM
Speed is overrated.

Pick a note and say something with it.

wompum
December 18th, 2006, 11:55 PM
Maybe Estaban will teach me good LOLOLOLOL J/k

furrfurrfurr
December 18th, 2006, 11:57 PM
is this considered spam? Or fishing? Or....???

BritishBluesBoy
December 18th, 2006, 11:58 PM
That might not be as dumb as you think... perhaps not Esteban, but I'd suggest getting some guitar books... or maybe find a good teacher...

morroben
December 19th, 2006, 12:06 AM
practice what. Everbody know to practice, but what to to practice? BTW my alt picking sucks.

maybe practice alt picking

bender-freak
December 19th, 2006, 12:06 AM
as said by others....practice till ya puke...like others have said, i've been doing it for a long time, many here longer than i....it took me 3 months+ to learn how to tune one..!!!...i started back in the late 50's, asked a lot of questions from other players, bugged the crap out of them......and practiced till i puked....started playing in "public" while still in high school....practiced till i puked....went in the military in 1963....continued playing after i got out....practiced till i puked, went "pro" for a while in the 70's and 80's, practiced till i puked.....still playing some now but not as much as in the past..still practice, ..............did i mention.....???...practice....!!!!!

not at all trying to be sarcastic or make light of your perceptions, but perhaps you are rushing it a little....be patient, ask questions......practice, practice, practice.......cheers.......take Pepto-Bismol...

sdcb27
December 19th, 2006, 12:49 AM
If it was easy everyone would do it

wompum
December 19th, 2006, 02:45 AM
ok im learning eric claptons while my guitar solo, Is going good.

"S.P.U.N."
December 19th, 2006, 03:27 AM
My suggestion would be don't give up! But try practicing scales and sequences, using strict alternate picking and a metronome, and start really really slow. You might be surprised at how hard it is to play slowly.

In time you will be able to up the tempo and play faster, cleanly.

Be patient and have fun learning!

markothefish
December 19th, 2006, 07:56 AM
is this a joke ?????

RomanS
December 19th, 2006, 08:17 AM
Get a good teacher.

When I first started to learn playing guitar as a teenager, I did with various books, without a teacher, and never got really good; htat's why I only played bass, and some chord strumming on acoustic guitars, for a long time.
When I finally decided to take up electric guitar again a while ago, I also started taking lessons with a teacher - and in 2 months learned more and progressed more than in years of dabbling with books and video courses; there's just so much more you'll gain on direct one-on-one interaction and instant feedback and advice from a teacher.

LagunaFisherman
December 19th, 2006, 09:28 AM
I've read and figured out that if you want to pick up some speed in your playing (if it's really that important) use a light touch. That's how I've improved.

maestrovert
December 19th, 2006, 09:34 AM
Playing for 3 1/3 months. I can play songs ive practiced into the ground fast, but my speed is still crap. Maybe a yard sell?

You've only just begun Bro'......
playing a guitar is not easy, not by a long shot....
when students get discouraged i ask them to really look at their left/fret hand and think about this:"the hand was designed for grasping & squeezing, for applying strength/power"....
then i ask them to describe the things they're asking their hand to do upon the neck.....they get the point.

You must be honest with yourself above all....if music is what you truly love, you'll persist and improve..... & if it's not ?

BoB/335
December 19th, 2006, 10:10 AM
There is something called "24 Finger Combinations". I sit and run them up and down my neck while watching TV. It is amazing how much more coordinated and faster my fingering has become. If I knew how to scan this into this forum I would do it. It suggests playing very slowly at first and with a metronome to play steady. But like I said, I do it mindlessly in front of the TV and this had helped me.

Disastercaster
December 19th, 2006, 10:10 AM
Just get a stinking teacher.

Jeffscreamedcorn
December 19th, 2006, 10:22 AM
If you want to play fast, you have to practice slow - and always with a metronome.

On the other hand - if you feel like you can quit, you probably should.

guitarzan13
December 19th, 2006, 10:25 AM
Scales alone won't do it.... here is an easy exercise...try this.... first string open, then first fret, second fret, third fret....second string same.... then third string and so on....when you get to the sixth string, go back to the fifth string and so on. Keep running these altenating pick direction as you go. When this gets easy, do this without open strings.....use 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th fret on each string...now do this at the 5th position then the 12th.
It works best if you use a metronome to check your progress. Best of Luck!

maestrovert
December 19th, 2006, 10:49 AM
practice makes perfect
but only if you practice perfectly.....
if you practice mistakes, you perform mistakes.

Durtdog
December 19th, 2006, 10:50 AM
Lots of people on this board have dedicated large portions of their lives practicing guitar and music in general, because that's what it takes to excel. Expecting to play well or with "speed" after 3.5 months is unrealistic, to say the least. If you're frustrated enough to consider quitting after that amount of time, you may not love it enough to work for it.

I say quit and sell the guitar.

Willie D
December 19th, 2006, 10:59 AM
If you want to play fast, you have to practice slow - and always with a metronome.



This is good advice. Jim Campilongo, back when he used to have an email guitar tips thingy, once advised that fast parts should always be practiced slowly so that they can eventually be nailed correctly when played fast. It's simply training the fingers to do the right motions first, then making the right motions faster and faster. This applies both to the fretting and picking hands.

Ain't nobody gonna nail Hot Rod Lincoln or Scuttle Buttin' after playing only 3.5 months.

BoB/335
December 19th, 2006, 12:58 PM
guitarzan13

That's basically what I said but I have a sheet laid out to follow to do this while changing fingering patterns. It's really been great for me.

I can't figure out how to scan this and place it on this site. I think it would be a great help to all.

BoB/335
December 19th, 2006, 01:35 PM
I figured out how to scan it and email it as a PDF file. Email me if interested or if you think you know how to post it.

bender-freak
December 19th, 2006, 01:51 PM
practice makes perfect
but only if you practice perfectly.....
if you practice mistakes, you perform mistakes.



and i'll add this, or anyway it helped me a great deal down through the years...surround yourself with players that are "better" than you are...in my case that would be almost ANYone..:sad: ....you'll be surprised what you learn from others just by doing it with others who are somewhat more advanced...no time atall and you'll be doing what they are doing and doing it just as well....IMO forget what Clapton, Atkins, Page, or those other guys are doing until ya learn the basics ....it'll happen if you want it bad enough....nothing worth having comes without effort....don't give up so easily....cheers...

RelicStrat
December 19th, 2006, 02:00 PM
guitarzan13

That's basically what I said but I have a sheet laid out to follow to do this while changing fingering patterns. It's really been great for me.

I can't figure out how to scan this and place it on this site. I think it would be a great help to all.I guesss this what you are talking about? I did this until I was blue in the face many decades ago when I was first starting to play. Ran them up and down the fretboard at the same time. I'm sure it helped. 24 Finger Combinations (http://keithshapiro.com/pdfs/24%20finger%20exercises.pdf)

BoB/335
December 19th, 2006, 02:09 PM
That's it!!!

btw I am not a beginer and they still help. I notice a huge difference just running through them everyday (ALL of them) while watching TV. I tune myself out and it becomes robotic. Almost makes you think it's worthless. I can tell you first hand that it's not worthless. I brought copies to a Tele Jam and handed them out. I bet no one even gave it a try. :confused:

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0le FUZZY
December 19th, 2006, 02:32 PM
i can't get faster at all.

...Yer headed down the rong track.

...Fast ain't where its at !

...Feeling and emotion and tempo and on key are sum of the thangs that count more than fast.



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eddiewagner
December 19th, 2006, 02:54 PM
Playing for 3 1/3 months. I can play songs ive practiced into the ground fast, but my speed is still crap. Maybe a yard sell?
i knew you where kidding. 12 weeks gets you nowhere! and listen to all the other wise guys: speed is not where it is at!

Kingpin
December 19th, 2006, 04:24 PM
You either love playing enough to gut it out, or you don't.
Your choice.

FWIW, I've been playing 30+ years, practice about an hour a day, and I'm still working on my right hand picking skills. There's always room for improvement -- nobody makes it to the top of the mountain!

Good luck.

Larry F
December 19th, 2006, 04:35 PM
If you're ready to quit at the first hurdle, you might not have the patience and perserverence for this. I say quit and sell the quitar, then move onto something that you're willing to devote yourself to. Doesn't sound like the guitar is it. I might be wrong, but you'd have to demonstrate that.

Larry F
December 19th, 2006, 05:06 PM
I guesss this what you are talking about? I did this until I was blue in the face many decades ago when I was first starting to play. Ran them up and down the fretboard at the same time. I'm sure it helped.

I learned these from Jack Peterson in 1971. I wonder how long the've been around? I recall incorporating picking patterns and cross string stuff. It was very good at helping with finger independence. Thanks for posting these--I'd encourage everyone to give them a try.

13ontheB
December 19th, 2006, 06:18 PM
Why oh why do so many people think that playing fast is the "be all and end all" of guitar playing? Yes listening to Brent,Albert,Brad etc is exiteing and urges you to pick up your guitar and have a go at that lick or run but all that flash stuff never brought a tear to the eye or pulled at your heart strings,by all means practice to get your speed up,but more important to me is making that guitar sweet sounding. Listen to James Burton on Emmylou Harris's "To far gone"or Chet playing "Vincent" True Perfection.

Tim Armstrong
December 19th, 2006, 06:33 PM
I wasn't able to actually play a song all the way through with any appreciable skill for the first six months! I don't think I played a tolerable guitar solo for pretty much another year.

Expecting to play Clapton solos note-for-note after three months is pretty unrealistic!

Get a teacher, get books on chord theory and scales, get some songbooks so you can learn how to play songs (not solos), and come back in a year or two and tell us how it went...

Cheers, Tim

Brian blaut
December 19th, 2006, 07:26 PM
The longer I play, the more I realise how much I suck. The more I know, the more I know that I suck. The farther I get, the more I realise how much further I have to go. Why continue? Well, because its fun. I have fun. I started out knowing nothing, and then I learned a song. It was fun. I learned some more songs. More fun. Then I learned more techniques, which presented me with more fun. Everytime I learn, I have more fun. Its an endless process, but I play because its fun, and everyday I find I'm better than the day before (well, actually, this reveals itself more in terms of years rather than days).

My point is why are you playing? If your not having fun then what is your motive? What makes you continue to pick it up day after day? It sounds like your just frustrated because you can't do what you want to do. I think you'll always feel that. But think about what you can do, what you have learned. Enjoy it and keep pressing forward. Or decide its not for you. Either way, hang on to your guitar for a while because these things have a way of coming back.

csharp
December 19th, 2006, 07:50 PM
I agree with Brian Blaut when he say play and have fun.

Play with the guitar as with a toy. Make some noise. Worry about music later. It is amazing what sounds can appear just messing around with techniques from beginner books. Using a metronome or drum machine is good for rhythm. It is fun to explore without any expectation of what you will find.

After just over a year of messing around, my hands are finally developing some strength and dexterity to the point where I would consider trying to learn some of the more challenging pieces of music.

Take care of your wrists. If they start to hurt while playing the guitar, stop until they recover.

SixStringSlinger
December 19th, 2006, 08:48 PM
practice what. Everbody know to practice, but what to to practice? BTW my alt picking sucks.

Just practice. Play. It's exercise dude, like weight lifting or running. You honestly thing record breaking weight lifters got to benching 300 3 1/3 months after they started? Even people like Zakk Wylde, and any other super fast guitarist with half a brain warms up hours before a show, starting slow.

Oh, by the way, I recently read a column by some heavy metal speed-reak type who realized that TODAY he actually plays slower than he did in high school (10 years ago, more or less, if I remember correctly), but he also plays BETTER. Mind you, that doesn't mean that slow = better either, just pointing out that there's no concrete connection.

SixStringSlinger
December 19th, 2006, 08:55 PM
Oh, by the way, I also wanted to quit about half a year into playing gguitar. But I was lucky in that I had a guitar class at school, so I was forced to play nonetheless. I'm grateful for it, because otherwise I wouldn't be playing today. And I just remebered something else that'll help if you're still hell-bent on speed. Someone once said that speed is the byproduct of accuracy. If you can play something PERFECT, whatever that means, at a given tempo, crank it up a couple of notches and do it again. It gets easier every time.