Output Jack... Im fed up!!!

I have to rewire my output about once a month and Im sick of it!!! My GTR is simply unreliable and I cant have that.

the nut gets loose, the wires twist and eventually something breaks...

anybody ever try some locktite or a drop o super glue on the nut. Or any other advice... I want this fixed perminately!!!

Thanks

Also: Im looking for 2 grovers (chrome; 1 left-1 right) if anybody has any cheap used that they want to part with...

I had the same problem with my Charvel. I kept hand-tightening it and putting it off, but eventually I just got down to it. I removed the plate, re-wired it, and snugged it up using a correct sized crescent wrench - no thread locker.

I would have used loctite if I had some handy. I think the "red" is the one you want, but check on that. It's strong, but not permanent, and won't hurt a thing.

As annoying as the problem is, just take your time, be patient, and use the right tools...you'll be fine! Happy playing!

What you need is the proper Star or toothed washer...that after only 60 yrs...most manufactures haven't figured out how to use yet!....and the Loctite you want is Blue...NOT the Red

Permanent solution to all your jack problems? Electrosocket.

+1 on the Electrosocket. Inexpensive and you'll never have to deal with it again.

+2 for the Electrosocket.

+3 and 4 for the Electrosocket.

Y'all can add mine in with the other's....ELECTROSOCKET

Electrosocket ...................... fagitaboudit. Sure, that's a viable solution but the standard jack cup works fine when properly installed. Use the toothed washer as suggested by Mellecaster. You need to reach into the jack hole through the control cavity and hold the jack with your finger while you turn the nut with a socket.

+1 with jwells393. I just removed an electrosocket and replaced with standard setup. Star washer is the key, and the correct wrench size. Stew Mac makes a tool for $15 that makes the whole process a snap.

The Electrosocket is $9. Once he gets the jack secured with the stock set-up (locktite does work,too) the whole cup will start falling out. Right?

The Electrosocket is $9. Once he gets the jack secured (locktite does work,too) the whole cup will start falling out. Right?

i've never had an Electrosocket jack cup fail !

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g189/maestrovert/t_esock2.jpg

the above pic is from Callaham's website( www.callahamguitars.com on the Tele parts page), as is the following (via cut n' paste):
"Electrosocket Jack plate with 2 phillips
stainless steel screws. This is the best jack cup
available. Don't waste your time with anything else,
especially those that are knurled and are driven into
the cup hole. They will crack your finish and fall out
right when you least expect it. This is a great
product; I just wish we made it."

Electrosocket ...................... fagitaboudit. Sure, that's a viable solution but the standard jack cup works fine when properly installed. Use the toothed washer as suggested by Mellecaster. You need to reach into the jack hole through the control cavity and hold the jack with your finger while you turn the nut with a socket.

+1 with jwells393. I just removed an electrosocket and replaced with standard setup. Star washer is the key, and the correct wrench size. Stew Mac makes a tool for $15 that makes the whole process a snap.

Sorry, unclear post. I was refering to these two previous posts. I'm with you regarding the Electrosocket. They are only $9 & the tool is $15. The Electrosocket is the most simple but elegant solution to the crappy Tele jack plate. I'm sure even Leo would have wished he thought of it.

Electrosocket ...................... fagitaboudit. Sure, that's a viable solution but the standard jack cup works fine when properly installed.
When properly installed. There is the problem because that doesn't happen very often. The Electrosocket is a great solution to a very common problem. I use Electrosockets on everything I can. Even when I build a Strat, I order the body with a side jack hole so I can use an Electrosocket. Every Charvel, Kramer, Peavey, and other guitar with a side hole gets an Electrosocket, especially if they came with a football jack.

Electrosocket it is... thanks for the tip friends.

Jazzguitar14,
Electrosocket with "Planet Waves" Gold plated jack. End your problems long term.http://www.warmoth.com/hardware/images/parts/pw-wiring-mono-stereo.jpg

for me it´s les paul type plate or in other cases a drop of a loctite-similar product. the only guitar in my life that never ha a problem in that department is my 52 ri. tock tock tock (knock on wood).

When properly installed. There is the problem because that doesn't happen very often.

Installation is not a problem with the Stew-Mac installation/removal tool.

for me it´s les paul type plate or in other cases a drop of a loctite-similar product. the only guitar in my life that never ha a problem in that department is my 52 ri. tock tock tock (knock on wood).
+1 . . . I've had an Electrosocket go bad, or maybe the install was bad when I purchased the guitar . . . so I changed it to an external Les Paul-type . . . and it never has had a problem since . . . you can barely notice it. I use Loctite (blue) exclusively too!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/tnecniv/P1010008.jpg
This guitar now has a Callaham bridge and compensated brass saddles.

I've got Electrosockets in all three of my Telecasters, and soon to be in my new "Telecaster Bass" (blonde ash '51 reissue P-Bass).

If you've got Loctite laying around, that'll work too, but the Electrosocket should last through rewires/pickup-upgrades for many years.

I'll chime in too - Electrosocket is the ONLY way to go for a Tele!

+375 for the Electrosocket!

Installation is not a problem with the Stew-Mac installation/removal tool.Buying a special tool does not make sense for one installation. Or two. It only makes sense if you have a shop and/or need to install them often. An Electrosocket does not require special tools. Set it and forget it!

The tool makes sense for me .......... I plan to build a few guitars.

I have a special tool for those Tele jack cup retainer clips. The last Tele I put together it wouldn't fit for various reasons. So I bent the retainer clip so that it just fit into the hole, and set it using a Switchcraft jack, the jackcup, and a socket wrench.

People make too big a deal out of jack cups. They're not that dificult to install, or make dependable.

Electrosockets might be easier, but jackcups look better IMO.

Pete

I'm with you, Pete.

for me it´s les paul type plate or in other cases a drop of a loctite-similar product. the only guitar in my life that never ha a problem in that department is my 52 ri. tock tock tock (knock on wood).

Eddie - I'm with you - I learned the hard way and also found that the Les Paul plate costs me around $7.00 (Allparts bought locally) and installed in minutes with no special tools - take a look - Intalling Les Paul Input Jack on my homebuilt Tele (http://www.higgydude.com/install-input-jack/63-tele-install-input-jack.asp).

I've actually seen that style plate on a lot of famous musicians' Teles - Springsteen's number one Tele has it.

Come on, you guys, can't you tighten your nuts correctly?

Howdy all! I'm an intermediate guitarist with a fairly new Mexican tele that cuts out/produces horrible noises that are related to some type of input jack wiring problem. Can you tell me how difficult it would be to install an Electrosocket, and/or fix the wiring myself. I have a little experience with a soldering iron but no real knowledge of electronics. Thanks ahead of time for any suggestions!

...I noe, I noe I'm the onlee won but after 40+ years I jes kant cee my way ta use won of them fancy-shmancy thangs.

...Jes fix the stock cup and jack properly and yew won't haff ta mess with it again fer quite a spell.

Ta save typin here ya go ! (http://www.tdpri.com/forum/tele-tech/25505-jack-cup-refresh.html)

..Nuttin I hate worse than a route onna old TELECASTER than a plate or leck-trick-sock-kit stuck onna duck-plucker.

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Many thanks Fuzzy! If I ever get a nice vintage model I'll keep it stock but I might still look into the Electrosocket for my beater guitar.

..Nuttin I hate worse than a route onna old TELECASTER than a plate or leck-trick-sock-kit stuck onna duck-plucker.

you are kidding sir fuzzy! what can you have against a simple and cheap solution to a horrible problem? and i think a les paul type jack looks cool too. like: "i am willing to take this little bit of the gibson world into my universe." ymmv....
eddie

I have owned a dozen teles and whenever I get a jack problem I put an electrosocket on like most guys here. I think they look great, they are rock solid and come in a variety of finishes - I have used the satin aluminium look one like the one pictured in this thread and also a chromed one - they both work great, and look the business. Surely Leo would have approved of the design - and as far as it not looking quite right, well the only time I ever look at a jack socket is for about 1 second while I plug in...

That all said, for reissues and vinatge instruments I can see the point in authenticity and if the 'proper' jack cup must do, as Ole Fuzzy has shown us, there are good ways to do this successfully.

Can you use a right-angle phone plug with the electrosockets?

Can you use a right-angle phone plug with the electrosockets?


Yes, just make sure that the jack sticks up about 1/16" to 1/8" past the socket thread.

Yes, just make sure that the jack sticks up about 1/16" to 1/8" past the socket thread.

Thanks! Being in the guitar repair business, I've seen what kind of damage can be done to an instrument when a straight phone plug is sticking out and someone hits it. Worst-case situation.....a straight phone plug into the jack on the front of an ES-335. Every time I see someone doing this I cringe. One hit to that plug and the wood around the jack can be ruined.

I finally got around to checking out my jack/wiring problem and it turns out the flexible contact got bent just enough to be a big problem. I bent it in the other direction, installed an Electrosocket, put on some new strings and I'm a very happy man.

Sounds like a better guitar already. Thanks for the tips!

Haven't seen an Electrosocket. But I've seen plenty of el cheapo LP plates, even in little back-of-beyond towns on a Saturday morning after the stock Tele jackcup has lunched your wiring......... So it's LP plates for me!! 2 screws and it's FIXED...........
And, yes, I only used right-angled plugs.

While I have a lot of respect for Rob DiStefano & JohnnyCrash, I have to vote with Pete Galati & Ole FUZZY... it seems common around here, but I've never had a problem with the jack cups over the past 30 years or so.

Mind you, I have had a few run-ins with Pym's Cup...

Oh, I'm not saying the old star "toothed" washers aint no good... they're just as good as the electrosockets - for holding the jack in place (afterall it's rare to trip onstage, but...).

Still, if you're gonna be in there soldering anyways, might as well pop two screws in the and just make sure the sucker stays in place fer good.

Sometimes older folks laugh at everything new :(

I've even had a good friend of mine laugh uncontrollably at the thought of strap locks... don't judge us youngsters :(

While I have a lot of respect for Rob DiStefano & JohnnyCrash, I have to vote with Pete Galati & Ole FUZZY... it seems common around here, but I've never had a pt came roblem with the jack cups over the past 30 years or so.

I was stupid and sat down on the couch with my cord plugged in. All my weight came right down on the plugged in cord and whammo...a bad connection. You must not be as careless, or unlucky as me.

I don't think I'll have this problem again, at least not on this guitar.

...Find an old control plate and drill it out fer a jack.

http://www.thomaskinkadechico.com/controlcents.jpg

...They should haff been made li kss inna first place.


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