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Capacitor/ tone pot question...

Eric K
August 18th, 2006, 10:06 PM
I hv a question.(forgive me if it's too stupid.)

Compare to using a .022 and .047 cap. The .047 suppose would make the sound more dark and less bright right.
When you rolling back the tone pot., it's also make the sound more dark and less bright.
Ok, if I using .022 cap. and rolling back the tone pot, will it been reach a point that the sound .047 cap dose without rolling back??
or i am totally in wrong concept?

firefrets
August 18th, 2006, 10:09 PM
I hv a question.(forgive me if it's too stupid.)

Compare to using a .022 and .047 cap. The .047 suppose would make the sound more dark and less bright right.
When you rolling back the tone pot., it's also make the sound more dark and less bright.
Ok, if I using .022 cap. and rolling back the tone pot, will it been reach a point that .047 cap dose without rolling back??
or i am totally in wrong concept?

I believe that to be true. No effect at all on full open tone though, i think.

Pete Galati
August 19th, 2006, 03:21 AM
Ok, if I using .022 cap. and rolling back the tone pot, will it been reach a point that the sound .047 cap dose without rolling back??
or i am totally in wrong concept?

Sounds about right. Depending on your pickups, you might find that you're not able to roll off the treble enough at times with a .022 cap.

But I put together a humbucker Tele recently, and used a .047 tone cap, and the thing had a disturbing lack of clarity until I switched to a .022 cap.

Once I get a neck back on that guitar, I might experiment with a .033uf cap. I'd have to check to see if I have any of those. I might from an effect project.

yerffej
August 19th, 2006, 02:53 PM
I hv a question.(forgive me if it's too stupid.)

Compare to using a .022 and .047 cap. The .047 suppose would make the sound more dark and less bright right.
When you rolling back the tone pot., it's also make the sound more dark and less bright.
Ok, if I using .022 cap. and rolling back the tone pot, will it been reach a point that the sound .047 cap dose without rolling back??
or i am totally in wrong concept?
you actually have it backwards.

comparing a .05 to a .001 or something, the .05 would cut much less high

appar111
August 20th, 2006, 12:58 PM
comparing a .05 to a .001 or something, the .05 would cut much less high

I thought that something like a .001 (one thousandth) would cut less highs than a .05 (5 hundredths).

Doesn't the more zero's after the decimal point = less treble cut?

Eric K
August 20th, 2006, 09:44 PM
yes.
the more zero's after the decimal point should has less treble cut.

6942
August 21st, 2006, 04:09 PM
General rule-of-thumb on tone caps:

Most single coil pickups: .047 uf
Humbucker & P-90 pickups: .022uf

Of course this isn't written in stone, and ALOT will depend on how YOU like your your sound/tone?
Actually, .033uf caps do make an interesting compromize.
Steve

yerffej
August 21st, 2006, 09:30 PM
yes.
the more zero's after the decimal point should has less treble cut.
put it in a guitar and tell me that.

higher capacitance= less treble bleed

sabby
August 21st, 2006, 10:10 PM
I like .1uf. At 2-3 I can get nice jazz-box tones out of bright and twangy single-coils.



And, yes, it cuts more top end than a .047uf. Here's Lindy Fralin's (http://www.fralinpickups.com/faq.asp) take:

What value capacitor should I use for tone?
The tone cap used in the 50's was a .1mfd but in the 60's was a .05mfd. You can use a number of different values. We recommend that you experiment to see what suits your tastes. A Stronger cap (.1 mfd ) will do more and start rolling off highs at a lower frequency, a lower value cap (.001 mfd ) will do less and start rolling off highs at a higher frequency.

Rob DiStefano
August 22nd, 2006, 05:48 AM
Lower cap values (.022uf versus .047uf) will allow for a longer range of treble and less mud at the end of that range. Higher cap values (.1uf versus .047uf) increase the immediate amount of mud and the quickening of shunting away treble tone. No cap = WYSIWYG, or the true unaltered tone of yer pickup(s).

Eric K
August 22nd, 2006, 09:53 PM
put it in a guitar and tell me that.

higher capacitance= less treble bleed


Proved. I hv intalled a Little 59' in bridge of my 52ri. The neck keep stock. Using .033 cap. Compare the stock cap (503Z), the neck are much brighter then before.

Eric K
August 22nd, 2006, 09:58 PM
When i rolling back the tone pot in such angle , it's sound like that using .05 cap in my ear.

Eric K
August 22nd, 2006, 10:04 PM
Some cap has a big +/_ tolerance, so...