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Help with switch for esquier

roth
June 14th, 2006, 10:26 AM
I am in the middle of my first soldering project (turning a Squier Affinity Tele into an Esquier) and am having problems finding the right kind of switch. I made a crude diagram to show the problem:

http://www.tdpri.com/telephoto/data/500/esq_switch.gif

My lack of experience with any kind of guitar electronics is showing - but I would rather get it right the first time. Can some simply number the terminals for me, or provide a link to a wiring diagram using the type of switch I am finding. I have looked for the switch on the left with no luck. I can even find diagrams for tele wiring for the switch on the right. Just no Esquier...

Thanks for the help - you guys are a great asset to us newbies... 8)

moonshiner
June 14th, 2006, 11:37 AM
How do you want the positions to be?

roth
June 14th, 2006, 11:58 AM
How do you want the positions to be?

Heheh - my face is red now...

I refered to the Resources page on this site and sure enough found this:

http://www.tdpri.com/gifs/esquire_jotka_gto2.gif

The first place I went a couple of weeks ago when I started this project - before I bought the switch.

Oh well - should have used the original diagram.

Just out of curiosity - what is the difference between the two types of switches?

PhatTele
June 14th, 2006, 12:19 PM
I think the StewMac switches are set up like yours. To see the differences between them and the "standard" Fender switch, you have to follow how the leads contact the wipers. This means having both types in front of you and then "mapping" the StewMac switch leads to match the Fender leads. It's not hard, it just takes a little time and two switches in hand.

roth
June 14th, 2006, 12:54 PM
I am a little confused on grounding now - the diagram above shows all the ground ending up on the back of a pot. While diagrams like this:

http://www.**********************/product/WDUSS3L1101

Show a ground from the bridge.

The affinity had a hole drilled from the control cavity to the top of the body, and an exposed wire laying on top of the body between the bridge and body.

What is the proper technique?

yegbert
June 14th, 2006, 03:42 PM
I made a crude diagram to show the problem:

http://www.tdpri.com/telephoto/data/500/esq_switch.gif


The one on the left is like the stock Fender switches I've seen, which look like this (http://www.tubesandmore.com/new/scripts/silverware.exe/moreinfo@d:/dfs/elevclients/cemirror/ELEVATOR.FXP?item=P-SW50). And the one on the right is like the CRL switches I've seen, which look like this (http://www.acmeguitarworks.com/3-Way-Switch-P59C10.aspx).

If you disregard the relative position of the terminals in the row on one side of the switch, to the terminals in the row on the other side, those two switches are essentially the same in terms of which terminal connects to which other one in each switch position. I use the Fender diagrams (http://www.fender.com/support/diagrams/index.php) with the CRL switches and look at them that way, and they work as intended.

I am a little confused on grounding now - the diagram above shows all the ground ending up on the back of a pot. While diagrams like this:

http://www.**********************/product/WDUSS3L1101

Show a ground from the bridge.

The affinity had a hole drilled from the control cavity to the top of the body, and an exposed wire laying on top of the body between the bridge and body.

What is the proper technique?

Pickups that have a conductive metal baseplate like the original Tele design, ground the bridge plate to pickup ground via a conductive pickup mounting/adjusting screw which electrically connects the bridge plate to the baseplate, and a short ground wire which connects the baseplate to the pickup's ground lead wire.

The Squier design was based on either no metal baseplate, or a baseplate that's metal but not sufficiently conductive; and so that wire is intended to connect the bridge plate to the back of a pot.

So if you have the original bridge pickup or a replacement one with no conductive metal baseplate, keep that wire and keep it grounded to the back of a pot.