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Yamaha THR10

Calmac69
September 6th, 2012, 11:17 AM
I cannot tell you how great this thing is ! Small, great looks In my opinion, great amp models and effects. Reverb and delay are brilliant.
True bedroom amp but you can definitely rock out for your bud's and still annoy the neighbours if you situate it thoughtfully.

I personally think that it blows away the Fender G Dec 3/30 that I owned and my mates Mustang III but it will not touch the volume that either of those amps can put out. Nor will it replace your main rig, my Orange TT certainly ain't going anywhere any time soon.

But thats not the point of this little beastie ......you wanna play when your laying on your couch while your significant other, female or male..... Not that theres anything wrong with that.....are reading a book or watching Days of our Lives. Well with this you can both do those things but your guitar playing at low volume is gonna blow that significant other away and they will drop their book or turn off the tv and ask you to play some more, giving you their undivided attention. The soft lighting emanating from the little head is very romantic.....what will happen next I can't go into on this family forum. Happy times...

I cannot guarantee this with the THR5 but with the THR10 thats exactly how it will go down...

Kyle76
September 6th, 2012, 08:07 PM
Works the same with the 5, but it's significantly smaller, so you look impressively bigger!

Calmac69
September 7th, 2012, 09:37 AM
Can't believe it ???? Just on the MLP Forum and there is a thread about these in the Squawk Box ( amp ) forum. Yamaha are releasing new / updated models next month ? Video preview has been posted.

These have only just become available here in Oz ?

Oh well thats how the ol cookie crumbles......I don't like the new army green colour anyway.





BASTARD'S........

sk8g0at
September 7th, 2012, 01:28 PM
do you have a link to the new release? i wasn't able to find any mention of it and i couldn't find anything on the yamaha web site either.

Hoodster
September 7th, 2012, 01:34 PM
Lots of info in the THR Club Thread:

http://www.tdpri.com/forum/amp-owners-clubs/343478-yamaha-thr-5-10-club-2.html

Yamaha pulled the video of the new models, which I may have unintentionally instigated by calling them yesterday for more details. The guy I spoke with was irked not to have been informed about the new releases or the video and said he would look into it. I had already posted some details of what the video revealed in the other thread.

Either way, I'm totally stoked with my THR5. No question it is the best modeler I have experienced (and I have owned the Fenders and Rolands).

The key with the THRs in my opinion is the Hall Reverb -- just a touch and the tiny box produces an incredibly gigantic sound, so much so that it's hard to judge how loud you are actually playing.

Swee_tone
September 9th, 2012, 01:23 AM
I have been doing a lot of digging online about these amps. I also have listened to most of the youtube vids on these.
I think this may be the best little practice amp to date!

Captain Bb
September 9th, 2012, 04:57 AM
I managed to borrow a THR10 for the weekend (been GASsing for one for a while) and have to say it's good at what it does.

However, in the flesh, I did find it lacked bass response but that's only to be expected for such a small box. I didn't like the high gain amp models at all (too fizzy) but the clean models with the pre-amp gain semi-cranked gave more acceptable overdriven tones. The clean sounds were great. The unit I was using also had an annoying buzz from something rattling inside at certain frequencies.

I like just a little reverb but I found the sweep of the effects pot was too course to easily dial-in just the right amount. Even with the reverb barely on it sounded unnatural to me with too much decay. I never got into the software side of the unit (I didn't have the leads or software anyway), so perhaps there are controls there to alter things in more detail. Trem, chorus and delay were very good indeed (I have no experience with flangers or phasers so can't comment there).

I already have an old Line 6 PODxt running into a mini hi-fi that I use for practising, jamming to backing tracks & recording etc, so I was ultimately comparing the Yamaha to that. My existing POD set-up sounds miles better in all respects I have to say...although portable it certainly is not.

So, the THR10 is not for me but if the next generation of these Yamahas have bigger speakers with more projection (something more like the Roland CUBE Street for example), then I will certainly audition one again.




...oh, and the OP has now got me GASsing for a Cabronita Tele - that thing looks the beez kneez!

Kyle76
September 9th, 2012, 11:41 AM
So, the THR10 is not for me but if the next generation of these Yamahas have bigger speakers with more projection (something more like the Roland CUBE Street for example), then I will certainly audition one again.


Interestingly, I returned a CUBE Street after I bought my THR5. Although the THR doesn't have the volume of the Street, I found it had enough for the practice I planned to do with it. The THR is also less than one-fifth the size of the Street and thus much more convenient. I also never could get used to the angled controls of the Street. I had to tilt it forward to change settings. The THR's tone is better, IMO, but in actuality they are different animals -- one designed for quiet practice and the other capable of performance.

Captain Bb
September 9th, 2012, 03:21 PM
For sure Kyle, although I wasn't trying to draw any parallels between the THR and the Street - they are different animals without doubt.

My point was that I think a bigger version of the THR would be more my cup of tea - bigger speakers and more power in a Street sized unit (not necessarily a sloping panel but just as an example of the size of unit I had in mind) but better sounding like the THR with all the functionality the Yamaha has too. Bedroom to busking if you will. More a coffee table than a desktop unit.

Hoodster
September 9th, 2012, 08:55 PM
I think the THR sounds huge, and I have the 5. Moreover, it sounds absolutely more realistic than any other modeler I've owned (including Cube, GDEC, POD, Zoom, etc.).

It's true that the effects aren't subtle, but I find a touch of the Hall Reverb is all I need to make this thing sound incredible both clean and dirty.

The other thing other modelers don't do remotely as well is the interaction between gain, master, and tone. All on the THR truly react like a real amp and give you TONS of highly usable and very different flavors of each model.

simonc
September 10th, 2012, 03:07 AM
Join the club! ( literally, in the amp owners forum). I love my THR5. its everything I've ever wanted in a practice amp.

4characters
January 8th, 2013, 08:48 PM
I bought a THR10C.
It makes an annoying rattle at some frequencies as CaptainB described.
Is it commun to all units? Or is it a defect that some have?

teleamp
January 9th, 2013, 11:08 AM
I'm a total tube amp snob, well I use to be before THR10. This little amp HAS the sound, feel and dynamics of a GOOD tube amp, at very low volumes that are not achievable from tube amps...

4characters
January 9th, 2013, 12:00 PM
I do not know how to delete this post. Please ignore it.

4characters
January 9th, 2013, 12:01 PM
Help!
Could you THR10 owners answer me?
I need to know it I should send my unit back or not.

Thanks-

I bought a THR10C.
It makes an annoying rattle at some frequencies as CaptainB described.
Is it commun to all units? Or is it a defect that some have?

teleamp
January 9th, 2013, 12:21 PM
Help!
Could you THR10 owners answer me?
I need to know it I should send my unit back or not.

Thanks-

Mine doesn't make any weird noises. How high do you have the gain and master set at?

4characters
January 9th, 2013, 07:42 PM
thank you teleamp.

Let me describe it the best I can.

Guitar setup:
Fender American Strat Deluxe. Neck Pickup (normal single coil mode). Volume and tone at max.

Amp setup:

Scenario A) Master 1; Bass/Mid/Tre 1/2; Guitar input knob 1
Starts rattling when Gain is 1/2

Scenario B) Gain 1; Master 1; Bass/Mid/Tre 1/2.
Starts rattling when Guitar input knob is 1/3

I just tried the amp with batteries for the first time. For you to have a feeling about the real volume of sound this happens, I would say that it is when the amp switch off automatically.

Is it more or less the same with you guys?

teleamp
January 9th, 2013, 08:30 PM
I think you might have a defective unit if it is doing that on the clean, crunch, or lead channels,

I'm using a Strat, my amp settings: clean, gain noon, master 1 o'clock, bass 11 o'clock, middle 2 o'clock, treble noon, spring reverb barely on, guitar max and I get a very convincing Blackface Reverb amp in its sweet spot for a great clean tone.

4characters
January 9th, 2013, 09:04 PM
Thanks for the answer.

I forgot to explain in my previous description that when I said for example gain "1" I mean 100% (Max); when I said "1/2" I mean 50% of the max and of course "1/3" I mean around 33%.
I am not sure if this was clear.

Teleamp, could you please make an experience?

Select your neck pickup and put your stratocaster volume and tone at maximum.

Please select "flat" amp type (because it is a common amp among THR10 and THR10C). Turn the 3 knobs: Bass, Med, Treb to 12'o clock (50%). Turn the Gain and Master at maximum. No effects.

Playing one note per string try every possible note. Go cranking by increments the "guitar input" knob of your THR. Post here the position of the "guitar input" knob that your THR starts rattling (it will probably starts rattling with a specific note) or if it just does not rattle at all with every knob at maximum.

Thanks-


I think you might have a defective unit if it is doing that on the clean, crunch, or lead channels,

I'm using a Strat, my amp settings: clean, gain noon, master 1 o'clock, bass 11 o'clock, middle 2 o'clock, treble noon, spring reverb barely on, guitar max and I get a very convincing Blackface Reverb amp in its sweet spot for a great clean tone.

teleamp
January 9th, 2013, 09:41 PM
I selected "flat" amp type. Turned Bass, Med, Treb to 12'o clock. Turned the Gain, Master and Guitar at maximum. No effects.... No rattles out of mine and my strat pups are hot. Guitar vol & tone maxed, neck pup.

4characters
January 10th, 2013, 02:32 PM
Thanks teleamp,

I decided to return the unit.

jipp
January 11th, 2013, 01:09 PM
so the new units are a ugly army green color? or will they keep both colors.

chris.

4characters
January 11th, 2013, 06:17 PM
Chris,

The colors are for different THR units, trying to capture different tonal trends.
The "old" creamy simulates amps of different styles. It is good for those who like to play different tonalities.
Green is for a THR that is modeling specifically high-gain amps. It is for "heavy-rock" lovers
Blue is for a THR that simulates specifically boutique, low gain amps. It is for bluesy sweet tone lovers.

spongebob
July 13th, 2013, 03:29 PM
Hi,

people who might have problems with rattling sounds should check this out:

http://ww.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?p=15317426

Very likely the springs in the battery case are rattling... at least in my case. So, there is no defect and one just has to fix the springs, e.g. by putting a battery in ...

cheers,
marco

homesick345
July 13th, 2013, 06:15 PM
Help!
Could you THR10 owners answer me?
I need to know it I should send my unit back or not.

Thanks-

I got the THR10C and it DOES NOT make any rattle, weird noised, whatsoever. Good behaved little amp.

imwjl
July 14th, 2013, 11:33 AM
No rattles, vibrations or any problems here. Just a great product too few seem to understand or appreciate.

I say don't understand or appreciate because these have rich tone and tube like feel at very low volume.

Captain Bb
July 18th, 2013, 07:20 AM
Well, I now admit to being totally in that camp.

I recently borrowed the same THR10 that I tried a while back but this time I got to load the software (THR Editor and Cubase) and hook the unit up to my PC, iPod and Hi-Fi set-up and really dial into the features/tones on offer. I also watched a few Youtube demos, specifically the software related ones.

In short - I'm now blown away by what this little thing can do!

My original reservations are now all put to bed: the buzzing issue I had was indeed the battery springs (as suggested from the link supplied, thanks) - the software also allows the effects to be tamed to my liking, so they're no longer OTT - but the biggest surprise is I no longer find it small and tinny sounding on its own as I did before, which I can only put down to proper dialling-in of the tones.

I'm definitely getting one of these little beauties but my dilema now is: Do I get the THR10 or the THR10C?

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc209/gelliot2/DSC_0063_zpse2d6d473.jpg

Frodebro
July 18th, 2013, 08:39 PM
I'm definitely getting one of these little beauties but my dilema now is: Do I get the THR10 or the THR10C?


If you're only into clean to medium gain, the 10C would probably suit you better. The 10 has a little bit of lower gain and a little bit of higher gain, so it covers a bit more instead of focusing on the lower gain side.

BlueJazzDay
July 18th, 2013, 09:50 PM
I've already got the THR-10 and I like it so much that I'm planning to get a THR-10C just so I can have one at my house and one at my girlfriend's for an occasional change. I love the original model and would be totally satisfied with just that, but I'm drooling over the tonal variations offered in the newer model that are based on some amps that really excite me. My style tends to be more into the clean and lower gain stuff. I never imagined liking one product so much that I wanted another of the same thing.

Captain Bb
July 19th, 2013, 02:18 PM
Well, it seems I'll be keeping this one after all. The guy that loaned it to me wants to move over to the THR10X, so offered me this THR10 at a price I couldn't pass up.

I won't ever be using the really high gain settings but have dialled-in some really nice tones from the Clean to Lead models so I'm using a lot of the functionality anyhow.

The THR10C is still tempting but I'm a little cautious of it being less versatile (i.e just subtle variations of a similar theme). Anyway, I guess I'll get to try one later on down the line.

So, anybody using the standard THR10 for acoustic guitar? The manual is vague - Is the Aco model even supposed to be for an acoustic or does it just make an electric sound more acoustic? I've got a Yammy AC3R acoustic with mic modelling, so not sure if it's better suited to the Aco or Flat model.

musicalmartin
July 19th, 2013, 02:23 PM
I love my 10C .I play blues Rock ,jazz and and country .All badly of course......

homesick345
July 19th, 2013, 02:49 PM
the 10C got 5 distinct tones really, all usable & great. the Deluxe rendition is brilliant. But so is the matchless, blues junior, & the mini maz

lothar34
July 20th, 2013, 12:36 PM
I bought mine on a whim- got tired of waiting on the Vypyr VIP to come out. I ended up getting the VIP too and have several other amps- but here is why I LOVE my THR: one word- recording. Maybe my mic'd setup just sucks, but when I record any of my other amps, I always hate the result. With the THR- not only is the USB out fantastic, but it sounds good mic'd. I only mic it when I'm trying to record w/ a backing track. Mostly though, I just play it late at night w/ headphones. I have other options there too (Amplug, Aplitube, Podfarm, but THR is the only one that sounds 'real' to my ears

Captain Bb
July 21st, 2013, 02:51 AM
I got to use the headphone jack for the first time last night and was more than pleased with the results. My cans are decent quality but quite hard to drive. However, the THR seems to handle them and can drive them at decent volumes (something my Pocket POD could never do...gonna throw that on Ebay).

I'm still really curious about the THR10C though, so went ahead and ordered one online last night on a whim. I can find a use both both units anyhow.

:idea:...running two THRs in stereo.....now there's a thought...

bluediamond
July 21st, 2013, 07:40 AM
Hi guys.
How good is music playback thru the THR10 ?
Is it comparable to a decent desktop speaker?
I plan to use it both as practice amp and listening to music from my computer. Is it good idea?

homesick345
July 21st, 2013, 07:46 AM
Hi guys.
How good is music playback thru the THR10 ?
Is it comparable to a decent desktop speaker?
I plan to use it both as practice amp and listening to music from my computer.

The music played thru the THR10C is amazing. WAY better than your typical desktop speakers. It's night & day. It sounds totally real.

I downloaded some backing tracks to my android smartphone, & I connect it to the AUX input of the Yamaha., You can mix with the 2 final volumes of the amp, & you can reach a perfect balance.

It is mind-blowing good. Punchy , warm, the music coming out of it is a band-on-your-couch.

wow wow wow WOW

homesick345
July 21st, 2013, 07:48 AM
and one more wow! :razz:

I love that little sucker for music & practice

bluediamond
July 21st, 2013, 08:15 AM
Thanks for the answer guys! I'll get the THR! :razz:

Captain Bb
July 25th, 2013, 03:37 AM
I've now had a chance to get familiar with the THR10C and my conclusion is it's slightly more versatile than the THR10 for what I use.

I prefer cleaner tones and like the Deluxe setting on the 10C because it stays cleaner louder, which is a bit counter-intuitive to me considering it's supposed to be based on a Deluxe Reverb, whereas the Clean model on the 10 is supposed to be a Twin Reverb.

The Class A and Brit Blues are also very pleasing indeed.

I don't much care for the US Blues or Mini models on the 10C. Like it's intended amp (the Blues Junior) the US Blues model has that midrange nasal quality that I don't particularly like (on the real thing either). The Mini (Z) is very muddy and small sounding to my ears and not my cup of tea. That said, I have dialled in a couple of useable tones using these models but overall they are far less useful to me.

If I were to configure my ideal THR I'd pick models from each unit so I ended up with: Deluxe (Deluxe reverb), Class A (Matchless DC30), Crunch (VOX AC30), Brit Blues (Bluesbreaker) and Brit Hi (JCM800).

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc209/gelliot2/DSC_0078_zps04d8c42f.jpg