San Antonio Rose tab

Is there a tab out there for the guitar solo part?

Which version? I just listened to three versions with no guitar solo - Wills, Asleep at the Wheel, and Haggard.

Gotta listen to Atlanta Rhythm Section's "Jukin." One of the coolest instrumental versions of San Antonio Rose embedded in that cool song.

Can't help with the tab.

At about the 13 minute mark...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SGTpX1cOzY&feature=relmfu

At about the 13 minute mark...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SGTpX1cOzY&feature=relmfu

1100 Springs is a good dance band. I had to escort some out of towners to the Broken Spoke last month and they were playing.

I'm avoiding doing metronome practice by tabbing this out for you. Here's basically how most of it goes. I've indicated where what he is playing are chord tones. He adds a third note to a lot of these dyads, but here are the essential things he's using:


D chord --------------------G --to---E
-----10---13-10-----------------------------------
-10--10---15-10--10-------10-12-11-10-9-----------
-11--------------11---11--11-12-11-10-9-----------
----------------------12-----12-11-10-9-----------
--------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------
Deep within my heart lies a mel-od -y

E A to A9 A A9 D
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-12-14-13-12---14-12--10--------------------------
-13-14-13-12---14-12--11--------------------------
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A song of old San Antone



Here's the little trilly, slidey thing, more or less (probably less), and the run with the chromatics. He goes back to the above materials to finish.
D ---------
-----------------------------10--14-13-12-----------------
-10h12p10—9h11p9-8h10p8-7-10---------------15-12----------
------------------------------------------------12--------
---------------------------------------------------14-12-9
----------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------------




That should get you in ballpark.

Leon, you're the man!

I love this tune; probably the number one Western Swing tune, ever. If I was playing in the intro without a fiddler, I'd want to make it sound a little more fiddle like on the guitar, and so would play it like this, with little slides in imitation of the fiddle:

------10—-14s--10------------------------
-10---10--15s--10-10--------10-12s--8----
-11---------------11----11--11-12s--7--9-
------------------------12-------------9-
-----------------------------------------
------------------------------------------
Deep within my heart lies a mel- o -dy



-------------------------------
-12-14--12-----12--------------
-13-14--12-14--12--14-11-------
-----------14------14-12-------
-------------------------------
-------------------------------
A song of old San Antone


The second half of the verse, just the same,
except it ends on: beneath the stars

----------------------------------
-12---------15--------------------
-12--14--14-14--------------------
-----14--14-----------------------
----------------------------------
----------------------------------
All a - lone



The second verse does not go exactly like the first:

----------------10--------------------------
-10-8--------10-10-----------10h-12---------
-11-9---11---11-------11-12--11h-12--12-8---
--------12------------12-12----------12-8---
--------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------
It was there I found beside the Al- a- mo


----------------------------------------10------
-12-14---12-------------12-----------10-10-10---
-13-14---12-----—14-----12--14-11----11----11---
-----------------14---------14-12---------------
------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------
En-chantment as strange as the blue up a –bove


Next two lines of second verse the same, except the
ending: A moonlit path that only she would know, still
hears


----------------------------
-12--------12---14-15-------
-12-14-14--12---14-14-------
----14-14-------------------
----------------------------
----------------------------
my lonely song of love

The bridge goes to the key of the dominant, in this case A

-12---12-11--12----10---9----
-14---14-13--14----12---10---
-----------------------------
-----------------------------
-----------------------------
-----------------------------
Moon in all your splendor



-12----16-16--15-14----------------
-14----17-17--13-15----------------
-----------------------------------
-----------------------------------
-----------------------------------
-----------------------------------
Knows only my heart


-16---16--15--14----16--14--12---------
-17---17--16--15----17--15--14--14-----
--------------------------------14--14-
------------------------------------14-
---------------------------------------
---------------------------------------
Call back my Rose, Rose of San Antone


Second half of the bridge is the same, except for
the ending. Lips so sweet and tender, like petals
falling apart, speak once again of


-12--14-15-----
-14--15-17-----
---------------
---------------
---------------
---------------
love my own

Leon, great job as usual.. can't wait to try with a guitar in my hand!

I've never been happy with trying to work out some decent chords for this. My buddy sings it in "A", so I'd really like to spice up the chord progression a little.

At its simplest, the first 4 bars (1-4-2-5-1):
(A) A / A / D / B / E / E / A / A /

Spruced up a little with a coupla 6ths and 9ths (basically what I do now, centered at fret 5):

(A6) A6 / A6 / D9 / B / E9 / A6 / A6 /

I'd really like to end up with with some transition chords and substitution chords to get:

(A6) A6 [trans] [sub A6] [sub A6] D9 [trans] [sub B] [sub B] E9 / A6 [trans] A6 /

... but I don't know how to get there. I know my notation's crap, but do you get what I mean? I'm interested some substitutes for A6,B, and maybe the two 9ths I'm using plus some transitional chords.

I'd like to know how you might approach taking this simple 1-4-2-5-1 progression to make a lively western swing comp.

Any wisdom, wise sage?

By the way, I'm really partial to the sound of the Freddie/Doug Green low string 3 or 4 note chords...

----------------------------
-5---5---4---5----3---2-----
-6---6---5---6----4---2-----
----------------------------
----------------------------
----------------------------
Moon in all your splendor


----------------------
-5-----9-9--8--7------
-6-----9-9--8--7------
----------------------
----------------------
----------------------
Knows only my heart


-----------------------------------------
-9---9-----8--7-----9---7---5------------
-9---9-----8--7-----9---7---6---6--------
--------------------------------7--7-----
-----------------------------------7-----
-----------------------------------------
Call back my Rose, Rose of San Antone



Second half of the bridge is the same, except for
the ending. Lips so sweet and tender, like petals
falling apart, speak once again of



---------------
-5----7--8-----
-6----7--9-----
---------------
---------------
---------------
love my own

If you play it in that lower octave, you can stick in this cool bebop lick at :38 of this CowBop video. I have put a little analysis of the different chord tones the run employs, leaving out a couple of passing notes. (It's in two lines because there wasn't room to put it all side by side. No significance to which of the two lines the analysis falls on.)

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E7 A
b7 b5 b7 b9 5
9 6 5 3 b9 1 #9 1 b7 3
-4----3-|--2-----------------|-----------------|---
-5----4-|----3-2-------------|-----------------|---
--------|---------4-3-2-1----|-----------------|---
--------|------------------3-|-2---5-3-2-------|---
--------|--------------------|---5-------5-2-3-|-4-
--------|--------------------|-----------------|---

[QUOTE=Leon Grizzard;4408828]I love this tune; probably the number one Western Swing tune, ever.

+1. One of my all time favorites. Always liked to fool around with this tune on my tele. Thanks for posting the tab, Leon. Will have a go at this later.
Swang on,

Leon, thanks again.

I'd like to know how you might approach taking this simple 1-4-2-5-1 progression to make a lively western swing comp.



I sing it in A also, as does the other guy I play with who sings it. I like to play a descending line on the I chord, but I don't like doing from 5th fret E string because you wind up with the open E and then have to jump way up in pitch if you want the root D chord following. Here's what I do on the intro part in D. I am showing block chords but I play bass note - chord. And I don't really use the walk up from A7 to D at the end. I just put it in case someone wants to use it. I just play alternating 1 and 5 with a block chord.




D/B
D D/C# D/A G E7
-----------------------------------------
----------10--7--7------------3------5--5-
----------11--7--7-----7------4------7--7--
--------------7--7-----4-------------6--6
----------12------------------5--5-6-7---
----------10--9--7-----5------3---------7-
Deep within my heart lies a mel ody



A7 G Bdim A(7) D
-------------------------------------
-----------7--(8)----10-10-----------------
---6--7----8---9-----11-11-------------------
---5--5----7---7-----12-12------------------
---------------------12-12----------------
---5--7----8---9-----10--------------------
a song of old San Antone




After we go to A for the vocals, I play it like this. Again, I seldom really put in the E7 walk down. I do like to put in the A A#dim Bm7 E7 turnaround every now and again in between the halves of the verse.

A/F#
A A/G# A7 D B7
------------------------------------7—7--
----------10-10-10----10-----10-----7--7-
----------9--9--9-----12-----11-----8--8-
----------11-11-11----11------------7--7-
----------12-11-9------------12-----9--9-
----------------------12-----10-9-8-7----
Deep within my heart lies a mel o dy



E/C# Bm7
E7 E7/D E7/B A A#dim E7/B
-----------------------------------
---5----5--5---5-----5----5--7--5--
---7----4--4---7-----4----6--7--4--
---6----6--6---6----------5--7--6--
---7----5--4---------7-------------
---------------7-----5----6--7--7--
a song of old San Antone




On the bridge, I just play alternating 1 and 5 with a block chord. You have to be careful not to play them too clean or to loud; if the bass is playing the same notes you get a synergistic effect that is greater than the sum of the two notes being played.

The end of the song has a signature walkup:

------------------
-5-----7-----10---
-6--7--8--9--7----
-7--5--7--7--7----
------------------
-5--7--8--9--9----

The fiddle intro is in D. It is a Bob Wills deal, and a uses a typical Old Time Fiddle move which starts with open strings, and then moves from first position to third position. D is a tough key for most men to sing it in, and so there is a modulation to a new key for the vocals. The Cow Bop video has faux modulation; they actually stay in D for the female vocalist, but the sound of the modulation is part of the arrangement. It is pretty easy to go from D to any key you want. Going from D to A, we use the chords D F B7 E, in the same rhythm as the on the Cow Bop video.

So the formula is to start on the D chord, and for the last two chords, use the II7 and V7 of the new key. All you need is a second chord that pulls the ear away from D and creates tonal center ambiguity, then the II7 V7 cycle of dominants cues you into the new key. F may work a lot of times, but really, just experiment around and find one you like. After you do the song enough times, your vocalist will be used to it and hear right where it is going.

Leon

You must really hate doing metronome practice.

:lol:

The double stops work well! Always just played single notes for the head. Gonna mix and match. Usually do it in G anyway, throwing in a lot of 6th chords. Funny how Texas Playboy Rag is basically the same chord sequence without the bridge. Those guys must have known they were on to something. Thanks for posting the tabs. Gonna work on this some more over the weekend.
Swang on,

A thousand thanks Leon! I'll get to work on those chord transition ideas. Perfect. I'm primarily an old-time fiddler, by the way, but my fiddle style doesn't get much west of Louisiana or West Virginia!

Hope to visit those crazy kids Mandy, John, and Tim back in Austin soon. Hope to catch up with you there, too.

After we go to A for the vocals, I play it like this. Again, I seldom really put in the E7 walk down. I do like to put in the A A#dim Bm7 E7 turnaround every now and again in between the halves of the verse.

A/F#
A A/G# A7 D B7
------------------------------------7—7--
----------10-10-10----10-----10-----7--7-
----------9--9--9-----12-----11-----8--8-
----------11-11-11----11------------7--7-
----------12-11-9------------12-----9--9-
----------------------12-----10-9-8-7----
Deep within my heart lies a mel o dy



E/C# Bm7
E7 E7/D E7/B A A#dim E7/B
-----------------------------------
---5----5--5---5-----5----5--7--5--
---7----4--4---7-----4----6--7--4--
---6----6--6---6----------5--7--6--
---7----5--4---------7-------------
---------------7-----5----6--7--7--
a song of old San Antone




On the bridge, I just play alternating 1 and 5 with a block chord. You have to be careful not to play them too clean or to loud; if the bass is playing the same notes you get a synergistic effect that is greater than the sum of the two notes being played.

Here is another way to play that walkdown from E7:


E7 E7/D E7/C# E7/B
-------------------------
------9-----9----5-------
-13---9-----9----7-------
-12---9-----9----6-------
-------------------------
-12---10----9----7-------

This is a little embarrassing to admit, but as a non-native Texan, and I never really listened to this tune before. Sure, I had heard it in the background on occasion, but never paid it much mind.

Yesterday one of my beginning guitar students (who is also a trained opera singer) decided he wanted to learn it from a piano arrangement in the key of Eb... (:shock::lol::rolleyes:)

A search of Youtube turned up a gazillion different versions, none of them in Eb, but the clearest version I could find with Bob Wills actually singing was this one:

6l7rLA9Jm1I

It was strange to come home after transcribing the tune, then jump onto TDPRI and find this thread. Somehow this forum seems to know what's going on in my life! (Either that or Leon's related to Santa Claus! :lol:)

Anyway, I know most you all don't need these, but if anyone is interested, here are the chords that I transcribed from the above Bob Wills version.



San Antonio Rose
by Bob Wills
http://youtu.be/6l7rLA9Jm1I

INTRO: A A7 D B7 E E7 A

A A7 D B7
Deep within my heart lies a melody
E E7 A
A song of old San Antone
A A7 D B7
Where in dreams I live with a memory
E E7 A
Beneath the stars all alone

A A7 D B7
It was there I found beside the Alamo
E E7 A
Enchantment strange as the blue up above
A A7 D B7
A moonlit path that only she would know
E E7 A
Still hears my broken song of love

BRIDGE:
E B7
Moon in all your splendor, know only my heart
B7 E
Call back my Rose, Rose of San Antone
E B7
Lips so sweet and tender like petals falling apart
B7 E E7
Speak once again of my love my own

A A7 D B7
A broken song empty words I know
E E7 A
Still live in my heart all alone
A A7 D B7
For that moonlit path by the Alamo
E E7 A
And Rose, my Rose of San Antone

SOLO CHORDS
E B7
//// //// //// ////
B7 E E7
//// //// //// ////

REPEAT ENTIRE FORM AND END

As a, to me, mildly interesting matter, I always thought of the bridge as being in E major (if the verse is in A), that is I and V7 in E, and not V7 and II7 in A.

As a, to me, mildly interesting matter, I always thought of the bridge as being in E major (if the verse is in A), that is I and V7 in E, and not V7 and II7 in A.Yup, that's what I hear too. I got it right on the solo section, not sure why I put the E7 at the top of the Bridge. It's definitely an E major triad, and the 7th doesn't come in until the end, right before it kicks back to A. Thanks for the correction! :cool:

Yup, that's what I hear too. I got it right on the solo section, not sure why I put the E7 at the top of the Bridge. It's definitely an E major triad, and the 7th doesn't come in until the end, right before it kicks back to A. Thanks for the correction! :cool:

You notice I doubted myself, but never doubted Jay Freddy!

Hmmmmmm... used to have to play this tune often. Just played the standard version on steel. The intro is good to get right, but I got bored with playing the solos, so I recorded the chords on one channel, and started recording me singing, not lyrics, but just notes, on the second channel. Was able to easily learn a lot that was in my brain, but that I hadn't yet learned to play on steel. After that, the song was a lot more fun to play!

You notice I doubted myself, but never doubted Jay Freddy!Hope you learned your lesson! lol :lol:

Hmmmmmm... used to have to play this tune often. Just played the standard version on steel. The intro is good to get right, but I got bored with playing the solos, so I recorded the chords on one channel, and started recording me singing, not lyrics, but just notes, on the second channel. Was able to easily learn a lot that was in my brain, but that I hadn't yet learned to play on steel. After that, the song was a lot more fun to play!That sounds like a great way to open new musical pathways for any song, not just San Antonio Rose.

I never played out much, but I do love this song. I was born in San Antonio so i've seen all the missions and love the city, River walk, and all. To that end we used to have some fun on stage before we tried to play it.

Me " Do we have any ladies here from the great state of Texas this evening?"
Several hands go up... Me "and what beautiful town in Texas are you from ma'am?"

"Oh I'm from Waco. " she giggles. Me "Well I'm sure the mothers of Waco take pride in their daughters, and I'm also dern sure the gals there are very pretty and nice... BUT, the prettiest gals in Texas are definitely from San Antonio!" I rest.

"Why do you say that?" the crowd questions.

Me 'Well there is No song ~Waco Rose~??? " I reply.

Free to use it, it's mine but I don't get out much anymore... lots of fun in a good crowd.

AaahHhh Haa... boy howdy.

A search of Youtube turned up a gazillion different versions, none of them in Eb, but the clearest version I could find with Bob Wills actually singing was this one:

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Ahhh... that is the GREAT Tommy Duncan from Whitney, Texas singing that one! I don't think Bob ever actually sang San Antonio Rose. He was the bandleader and does do all the ah-ha's and the "scat" stuff between verses and lines in addition to some of the fiddlework. Bob employed a couple of singers over his career and rarely sang himself. His voice is very high and kinda hard to miss when you do actually hear him sing. Leon Rausch is another great singer Bob employed. Marvelous stuff!

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