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dr_zaius August 3rd, 2012, 09:23 PM Here we go!
http://4gp.tw/bat/1344042595867.jpg
I thought it was ash, but on closer inspection, I'm not sure. Does not have that ash smell, definitely not oak, grain is too dense, maybe some sort of hickory?
http://4gp.tw/bat/1344042204552.jpg
Heres whats left of the bark. Not much to go off of but it may help.
http://4gp.tw/bat/1344041685386.jpg
Grain close up. Had to change the settings on my phone to get the close up. The color is a little darker in this pic than the wood itself. Color in the first two pics is more accurate.
Can't really describe the smell, but it is a very light scent, and that is a fresh cut. What say ye, Tele Land?
Bentley August 3rd, 2012, 09:27 PM Funny thing is the first two pics don't work. XD I don't know a lot. Walnut? lol.. idk
dr_zaius August 3rd, 2012, 09:33 PM Sorry guys, I had the pics all messed up. Working from my phone, not as easy as I'd like it to be. All fixed now.
guitarbuilder August 3rd, 2012, 09:33 PM I vote northern ash.
dr_zaius August 3rd, 2012, 09:45 PM I vote northern ash.
I can tell you that the tree this came from was cut down in southeast texas. I have no idea if northern ash grows here. I got some other ash from the same guy and it's definitely ash, highly figured and you can smell it for days after working a piece. You may be right, I have read that northern ash is less figured than swamp ash.
guitarbuilder August 3rd, 2012, 09:51 PM I can tell you that the tree this came from was cut down in southeast texas. I have no idea if northern ash grows here. I got some other ash from the same guy and it's definitely ash, highly figured and you can smell it for days after working a piece. You may be right, I have read that northern ash is less figured than swamp ash.
Tree ID isn't one of my specialties... the wood looks maplish on the face...
White Ash:
Fraxinus americana is a species of Fraxinus native to eastern North America found in mesophytic hardwood forests from Nova Scotia west to Minnesota, south to northern Florida, and southwest to eastern Texas. Wikipedia
Bentley August 3rd, 2012, 10:01 PM This guys good. Oh.. you used the wiki... :lol:
dr_zaius August 3rd, 2012, 10:04 PM I thought it looked a little like maple too, and I did get some maple from my supplier as well, but it's too light to be maple. Im pretty sure you've got it right with the northern or "white" ash.
R. Stratenstein August 3rd, 2012, 11:02 PM I don't think that's maple bark, though. . .
crazydave911 August 4th, 2012, 12:51 AM Hmmm, almost looks like elm, but kinda hard to tell :confused:
kwerk August 4th, 2012, 01:28 AM http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h323/kamerawerk/wood.jpg
dr_zaius August 4th, 2012, 04:09 AM Hmmm, almost looks like elm, but kinda hard to tell :confused:
I wish it was elm, but I highly doubt it is.
Davecam48 August 4th, 2012, 06:10 AM I think it definitely looks like guitar wood!
Keyser Soze August 4th, 2012, 10:20 AM The bark doesn't look like ash to me - ash has those repeating patterns where the ridges come together to form 'V' shapes. It does look a bit more like elm. I haven't worked with much elm, but the pieces I did use were a lot less heavily pored as compared to ash.
Warnz August 4th, 2012, 10:46 AM I think it definitely looks like guitar wood!
Yep, that's the stuff :smile:
tedro August 4th, 2012, 11:10 AM The bark doesn't look like ash to me - ash has those repeating patterns where the ridges come together to form 'V' shapes. It does look a bit more like elm. I haven't worked with much elm, but the pieces I did use were a lot less heavily pored as compared to ash.
yah, sorta like oak? or walnut.
(use google images)
Codger August 4th, 2012, 01:55 PM Can you get a shot of the surface of the board? From the end grain you can see there are no rays, so it’s not an oak. It is ring porous so it’s not a maple. It’s not walnut. The grain of elms have sort of a feathery look. The grain of white ash looks like baseball bats did before they went “Ping”.
'59_Standard August 4th, 2012, 02:16 PM I'll guess its a Cherry.
guitarbuilder August 4th, 2012, 03:01 PM http://www.hobbithouseinc.com/personal/woodpics/ash,%20white.htm
czook August 4th, 2012, 03:09 PM Bark is not right for most of the guesses so far.
My guess is it is a variety of Cottonwood/Poplar. Probably Populus deltoides.
dr_zaius August 4th, 2012, 06:29 PM It's going to be a top for the explorer thingy I'm building. I'm going to surface plane one side of it later today and ill post some pics of the surface when I do.
guitarbuilder August 4th, 2012, 07:49 PM Bark is not right for most of the guesses so far.
My guess is it is a variety of Cottonwood/Poplar. Probably Populus deltoides.
Well I use a lot of poplar and that doesn't look like any I ever used. :-)
Nick JD August 4th, 2012, 10:04 PM Maple.
dr_zaius August 5th, 2012, 02:55 AM Ill have some better pics of it later today. Taking it to the mill in the morning and having it sawn in half lengthwise. Gonna make some bookmatched tops.
czook August 5th, 2012, 05:17 PM Well I use a lot of poplar and that doesn't look like any I ever used. :-)
Absolutely looks like a variety of Cottonwood native to the center of the US. Older Cottonwood has deep bark like that. Some Cottonwoods/Poplars have smoother bark, like Aspen and Silver Poplar, but the large native varieties tend to have the same bark as the photo.
My educated guess is still Cottonwood.
dr_zaius August 7th, 2012, 04:22 PM http://4gp.tw/bat/1344370734167.jpg
So here it is, ash after all. Ive already made one top out of it. Ill post more pics when the glue dries...
dr_zaius August 7th, 2012, 08:30 PM Heres the top
http://4gp.tw/bat/1344385305474.jpg
The edges of the body are still very rough. I need to fix my drum sander, our build a bigger one.
http://4gp.tw/bat/1344385597777.jpg
Pretty wicked grain, if I do say so myself.
guitarbuilder August 7th, 2012, 08:39 PM That's not looking like ash. I wanna say birch or soft maple now :-)
dr_zaius August 7th, 2012, 09:42 PM Really? I thought for sure it was ash when we cut it open... I wish my phones camera was better so you could see the pores in this thing. They only appear in the lighter registers of the wood. The darker grain is as smooth as glass after sanding with 100 grit. I am not familiar with soft maple. I have a maple in the yard and the bark looks nothing like what was on this piece, but Im not sure what kind of maple it is anyway. All the other maple I've worked had zero pores, so again I just don't know. It remains a mystery at this point.
Bentley August 7th, 2012, 09:48 PM When it's done, it's not going to matter. You're going to have a rockin' guitar, so who cares!
dr_zaius August 7th, 2012, 10:01 PM I'd like to be able to tell the dude what his guitar is made of :)
Nick JD August 7th, 2012, 10:02 PM I like your abstract horse sculpture. I thought you were going to make a guitar? :mrgreen:
dr_zaius August 7th, 2012, 10:38 PM Lol. Like I said before, it someones take on an Explorer. I am not particularly fond of the shape, but its for a friend and they like it so I cut it up. Does kinda look like a horse, though...
Bentley August 7th, 2012, 10:42 PM I like your abstract horse sculpture. I thought you were going to make a guitar? :mrgreen:
I laughed! :lol:
Nick JD August 7th, 2012, 11:42 PM Lol. Like I said before, it someones take on an Explorer. I am not particularly fond of the shape, but its for a friend and they like it so I cut it up. Does kinda look like a horse, though...
I quite like it. Just preempting the purists.
Tell me it'll have a Floyd on it!
dr_zaius August 7th, 2012, 11:55 PM Oh yeah! Gotta have a Foyd Rose. Gonna do all black hardware, I even found a pickup selector switch all blacked out.
Nick JD August 8th, 2012, 05:27 AM Oh yeah! Gotta have a Foyd Rose. Gonna do all black hardware, I even found a pickup selector switch all blacked out.
Me likey! Some nutso strong humbuckers too...
Would that grain look great with a black stain, or is that the bogan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogan) in me talking?
kwerk August 8th, 2012, 05:39 AM There's a non-bogan part?
camatillo August 8th, 2012, 06:35 AM The bark looks like Walnut. The color would have to make it Butternut, which is basically white walnut. The book matched top does look like butternut. If it is lighter than ash and heavier than Black Walnut and carves easily, it may just be Butternut. Butternut is known for its ease of carving and is in high demand by carvers. I don't know the range of Butternut, but I think it extends down to east Texas.
dr_zaius August 8th, 2012, 10:12 AM Butternut grows here, but it is rare. I need to get a good close up pic of the grain and post it here.
Ripthorn August 8th, 2012, 01:13 PM I was going to say butternut as well. It's porous, has the right color and grain patterns, isn't as ridiculously heavy as northern ash tends to be, etc.
guitarbuilder August 8th, 2012, 01:29 PM I've got butternut here and I think it is darker than that. Butternut looks more open pored to me than that.
Arbiter August 8th, 2012, 01:52 PM No way is that ash, from your post-shaping pics. I'm thinking madrone, largely from the bark.
bellytelly August 10th, 2012, 08:41 AM a very enjoyable thread indeed, funny too !
dr_zaius August 10th, 2012, 11:17 AM No way is that ash, from your post-shaping pics. I'm thinking madrone, largely from the bark.
Madrone is a west coast tree. This wood came from east texas. Also madrone bark looks like this:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0a/Image-Pacific_Madrone_Arbutus_menziesii_Branch_Fork_2120 px.jpg/220px-Image-Pacific_Madrone_Arbutus_menziesii_Branch_Fork_2120 px.jpg
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