July 29th, 2012, 11:06 PM
i'm looking to replace my wilkinson sung II bridge plate with one that has no lip on either the low e or high e edges. i need one with the vintage style 4 hole mount, but that also is (a) drilled as a dual loader, since i'm in the minority of players who prefer to string up my tele as a top loader, and (b) that will work with the 3 compensated brass saddles i've already got. i don't necessarily want to spend big bucks. anybody know of one like that? thanks
July 29th, 2012, 11:17 PM
I would suggest ditching the three brass saddles...
I was a huge pro-brass saddle guy until i had problems with my intonation and not being able to fix it
July 29th, 2012, 11:18 PM
Cut the sides down on the one you have.
July 29th, 2012, 11:22 PM
There's no reason you can't get your intonation very close with even the cheapest compensated brass saddles. If you didn't have compensated saddles, you had some other setup issue preventing you from intonating properly.
2after, unfortunately the only bridge I know of that comes close to your requirements that's affordable is the cut-off bridge style:
List price is $40. Everything I know of that comes close is very expensive.
July 29th, 2012, 11:28 PM
Pricey and not top-load, would need to be modified.
July 30th, 2012, 12:14 AM
maybe it'd be easiest to just drill toploader holes in this one?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/USA-CUSTOM-Stainless-Steel-Bridge-PLATE-Fits-Fender-Tele-Telecaster-/390394273914?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3 D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D963138533296160405%26pid%3D 100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D2%26
i've never worked with metal much, but maybe it wouldn't be too tough. i wish i could just buy exactly what i want though. oh well.
July 30th, 2012, 12:18 AM
Stainless steel can be a real pain in the neck to drill. Why not contact the seller and ask him if he can build what you want?
July 30th, 2012, 12:30 AM
This one from GuitarFetish is drilled for both top-load and string-through, has compensated brass saddles and is reasonably priced. You would have to grind down the sides to your liking.
July 30th, 2012, 12:34 AM
wow, this is cheap. won't work for string-thru but maybe it's worth a shot. it might be a piece of junk, i guess. anybody ever try one?
July 30th, 2012, 12:38 AM
thanks, dsutton. i wrote to the seller and asked if i could get one with top loader holes. i'll post here what he says.
glen, that wilkinson one is the one i have on the guitar currently. i guess if i have to i can just try to cut the lips off of it, but i'm not excited about that idea, honestly. seems like it'd be hard to do given my lack of any metalworking experience.
July 30th, 2012, 12:40 AM
The GFS bridges are great for the money! As said above, you'll just have to grind down the sides.
EDIT: Never mind, you already have it. Grinding the sides is pretty simple, just make sure to file the sharp edges down when you're done!
July 30th, 2012, 12:50 AM
Take your current bridge to a garage or a machine shop and ask them to grind down the sides for you. It might not cost you more than a hot coffee or a cold soft drink.
July 30th, 2012, 01:07 AM
oh? ok thanks for the tip.
September 5th, 2012, 07:01 PM
it's been a while. sorry. ok, the several nashville area machine shops i called didn't want to bother with grinding down the bridge for me. i bought the cheap one and it actually sounds really good. no noticeable difference from the wilkinson bridge i had on there. the cheapo one i got is the 3 saddle one pictured here:
i didn't use the cheap saddles it came with. i put my compensated wilkinson brass ones on instead. but the string angle was so shallow that i got some string travel on the high e. that string wants to slide towards the b string when i bend the high e string above the 12th fret. bummer. i thought about filing a groove into the wilkinson but decided to spring for the rutters saddles with the compensated grooves. but when it arrived i realized the 3 screws intonation screws that connect the 3 saddles to the bridge are too big to go through the holes in the back of the bridgeplate. they're also too big to go through the holes in the back of the wilkinson. i thought that was weird. i trust marc that he's using the traditional size and those imports ones are using smaller ones. but now i need to either ream/drill out the holes in the cheapo bridgeplate or maybe just buy a rutters bridgeplate. he told me he'd modify the top lip so it matches the bottom for me for $10. what a guy.
first i guess i'll try to enlarge the holes in the back of the cheap bridgeplate to see if i can make it work. anyone know how i should go about doing that? drill the hole bigger? get a round file and enlarge it that way? seems to me the trick will be enlarging the hole while keeping the center in the same place. could be tricky!
any advice would be welcome. thanks!
September 12th, 2012, 06:22 PM
enlarged the holes with ease. worked like a charm. the rutters saddles, as everyone knows, sound great. the rutters and chinse bridgeplate combo is maybe a tad more mellow-sounding than the thinner wilkinson bridgeplate with the wilkinson saddles. who knows what's causing that. but it's a super lively pine tele anyway, and it's still plenty lively-sounding. i'll probably eventually spring for the rutters bridgplate, modded for short lips on both edges and as a dual loader (if for no other reason than it seems silly to have a guitar with all top quality parts except the bridgeplate). but i'll keep this set up for a while, anyway.
September 13th, 2012, 02:31 AM
I'd go with Rutters....IMHO
November 2nd, 2012, 03:31 PM
pulled the trigger on the rutters bridgeplate yesterday. the saddles are just too good to not be coupled with the bridge plate. marc was happy to make me a custom bridgeplate - dual loader with the top lip the same length as the bottom lip. i'm excited.
November 2nd, 2012, 03:44 PM
This guy has good prices on bridges
March 2nd, 2013, 04:01 PM
just to follow up, and i don't think this will surprise anybody - but my custom rutters bridge and saddles are truly great. i love em.
March 6th, 2013, 11:19 PM
Have had not inton/tuning issues with my Wilkinson 3 brass barrel compensated bridge. Its at least as good as my previous standard 6 saddle.