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Next........

Budda
July 25th, 2012, 12:13 AM
Okay, here's something fun to try. And since I've seen these things go awry rather quickly, I thought some guidelines would spark some creativity here as opposed to just having it turn into a muddled "free for all"!
:lol:

Writing a "Tune" without a Melody, just a Form.

It's in 4/4, and the Form is 16 Bars.

No more than 2 Chords per Measure.

Everyone can add either 1 or 2 Chords, but they can only add ONE Measure. No Ties, or crossing Bar Lines, etc. No coming back a second time.


The real challenge IMO, is to put something together that is catchy and flows. Not to play the weirdest Chord ever, etc.

Here's the first Measure filled in:


l D l

w3stie
July 25th, 2012, 12:22 AM
Here you go ...

l D7 l

Budda
July 25th, 2012, 12:45 AM
So:

lD l D7 l

ludashoeless
July 25th, 2012, 01:16 AM
?? not sure i understand

ScatMan
July 25th, 2012, 05:02 AM
D D7 Em/D
E--2---2---3
B--3---1---5
G--2---2---4
D--0---0---0
A--x----------
E--x----------



Em/D

Seasicksailor
July 25th, 2012, 06:18 AM
Ok....

|D|D7|Em/D|E7|

klasaine
July 25th, 2012, 11:33 AM
|D | D7 | Em/D | E7 | G |

stinkey
July 25th, 2012, 11:47 AM
IDID7IEm/DIE7IGIBmI

JFD84
July 25th, 2012, 02:11 PM
| D | D7 | Em/D | E7 | G | Bm | Asus4 |

jazztele
July 25th, 2012, 02:48 PM
A13

x 0 5 4 2 2

Budda
July 26th, 2012, 01:04 PM
Okay!

Now it's taking shape!

Keep 'em coming, everyone.

I've been playing with the Changes so far see a few cool possibilities there. It'll be cool to see what we end up with.

Of course, as the Form gets closer to completion it gets a little more tricky to make it "work"! LOL
I had it easy with the first Bar! :)

mrboson
July 26th, 2012, 02:07 PM
| Dmaj7 D+ |

(2 counts each)

Dmaj7: x x 0 2 2 2
D+: x x 0 3 3 2

Seasicksailor
July 26th, 2012, 05:52 PM
This could end up like that thread that asked all members to add a specification for a custom tele! :-D So far however it sounds interesting I guess.

upinthemteles
July 26th, 2012, 07:30 PM
l G/D D7 l

G/D: x x 0 4 3 3
D7: x x 0 5 3 5

Budda
July 26th, 2012, 10:22 PM
Okay, so far........

| D | D7 | Em/D | E7 |

| G | Bm | Asus4 | A13 |

| Dmaj7 D+ | G/D D7 l


Some interesting choices there so far.

Getting it all tied together without getting weird is the real challenge!

"Catchy and flowing"............

strat56
July 26th, 2012, 10:30 PM
|Em F#m7|

Davib96
July 26th, 2012, 11:30 PM
E7#9sus4

Budda
July 27th, 2012, 01:51 AM
| D | D7 | Em/D | E7 |

| G | Bm | Asus4 | A13 |

| Dmaj7 D+ | G/D D7 l Em F#m7| E7#9sus4


Okay, the Chords seem to be getting more and more "complex".

Hopefully, everyone is still thinking about a solid Progression. These last 4 Bars will need to be thoughtfully treated to really keep things from getting weird.

ScatMan
July 27th, 2012, 06:56 AM
Chord voicings might pull it together.

Here's everyone's contribution (with some minor changes): a 12 bar progression going back to the D..

TDPRI Post-A-Chord (http://soundcloud.com/kevin-ludwig/tdpri-chords)

Seasicksailor
July 27th, 2012, 07:43 AM
Chord voicings might pull it together.

Here's everyone's contribution (with some minor changes): a 12 bar progression going back to the D..

TDPRI Post-A-Chord (http://soundcloud.com/kevin-ludwig/tdpri-chords)

WOW!! That sounds pretty good! Good job ScatMan!

Breen
July 27th, 2012, 07:53 AM
|E7#9sus4 G2/B| - I hope I could interject a bit in the 12th bar.

G2/B : 7 X 5 7 8 5

klasaine
July 27th, 2012, 11:49 AM
Chord voicings might pull it together.

Here's everyone's contribution (with some minor changes): a 12 bar progression going back to the D..

TDPRI Post-A-Chord (http://soundcloud.com/kevin-ludwig/tdpri-chords)

Bravo Kevin!

boneyguy
July 27th, 2012, 12:05 PM
Well that is a testament to the king of instruments: the piano.That sounded very good. I'd like to hear someone's version of that on guitar. I don't think it would stand up nearly as well as the piano simply because of the voicing/voice leading restrictions on a guitar that the piano doesn't have. But I could be wrong.

klasaine
July 27th, 2012, 12:48 PM
Rough and ready but here ya go.
*Web cam mic and youtube 'record' app. I don't know where the rotary sound came from ... or the little EQ shifts - ?
I added two beats, a G and an A chord after the E7sus+9 (which is really just an Asus4 chord) to get me a resolve to D.
I'm 'dropped D' tuned.
It was fun!

-w2IeduCT0A

boneyguy
July 27th, 2012, 12:55 PM
I had a feeling you'd take up the challenge and prove me wrong Ken.:mrgreen: That was really good.

What about this for the next challenge.

Write a melody for it. That would be an interesting group challenge. Everyone adds a note of a specified duration. Hmmmmm

Or don't specify any duration. Just suggest a note and then the phrasing can be left up to anyone who wants to submit an interpretation through a video/audio clip. Hmmmmmm

jbmando
July 27th, 2012, 01:00 PM
Ken, did you put a D+ in the 9th bar? With my crappy computer speakers I can't hear it too well.

Edit: Yep, it's there, my left speaker was cutting out. Great job.

Budda
July 27th, 2012, 01:01 PM
Yeah, Boney that was coming next! LOL

I just didn't want it to get too far out, so I tried some "ground rules" to try and keep it fairly normal. However, no one has repeated even one of the Chords yet! LOL

Geeks..........

;)


Anyway, no crossing Bar Lines! Nope.
You get 1 Measure, 1 or 2 Chords.
THAT's a large part of the "challenge". As well as the "catchy" part.

Anything goes means it would dissolve quickly into a bunch of meandering.

I hope someone ties this Form up nicely, with some solid Chordal choices. Remember, you need to leave a big, obvious "pocket/hole" for the next poster to see and hear the Logic there. No need to make it cryptic.

Budda
July 27th, 2012, 01:04 PM
Rough and ready but here ya go.
*Web cam mic and youtube 'record' app. I don't know where the rotary sound came from ... or the little EQ shifts - ?
I added two beats, a G and an A chord after the E7sus+9 (which is really just an Asus4 chord) to get me a resolve to D.
I'm 'dropped D' tuned.
It was fun!

-w2IeduCT0A


Beautiful!

Sounded really nice, Ken.

And the "Leslie/Trem" thing worked well. Cool, intentional or not!

boneyguy
July 27th, 2012, 01:05 PM
Yeah, Boney that was coming next! LOL

.

Sorry. I didn't mean to take over. I just got excited and blurted it out.:mrgreen:

klasaine
July 27th, 2012, 01:07 PM
Ken, did you put a D+ in the 9th bar? With my crappy computer speakers I can't hear it too well.

Edit: Yep, it's there, my left speaker was cutting out. Great job.

It's in the 'middle' of the chord.
Part of the challenge for me was to play the chords as written.
Other than a passing tone (or three), all the extensions or just the plain triads that everybody wrote are there.

*The only thing I 'added' was a G and an A chord on beats 3 and 4 of bar twelve. As I said, to get me back to D. That E7sus+9 is an Asus chord really so I'm not re-harmonizing anything - just adding some movement.

Budda
July 27th, 2012, 01:29 PM
Sorry. I didn't mean to take over. I just got excited and blurted it out.:mrgreen:

Hahahhaha! Sometimes you try
to hold back, but it just doesn't work out. :oops:

Yeah, I think that'll be fun!

Possibly Melodies. Or maybe exploring the Voice Leading possibilities. Anyway, it's pretty cool how people are joining in and making contributions.

mrboson
July 27th, 2012, 01:33 PM
I just didn't want it to get too far out, so I tried some "ground rules" to try and keep it fairly normal. However, no one has repeated even one of the Chords yet! LOL

Geeks..........

;)

I actually believed that was one of the ground rule, :lol:, and so by the time we got to bar 9 I figured we didn't have a choice but to start getting out there a bit. Re-reading the thread I realize now we could have repeated chords :oops:.

Oh well... ScatMan's and KL's interpretation of this is awesome. Man, you guys are great!

klasaine
July 27th, 2012, 01:50 PM
I actually believed that was one of the ground rule, :lol:, and so by the time we got to bar 9 I figured we didn't have a choice but to start getting out there a bit. Re-reading the thread I realize now we could have repeated chords :oops:.

Oh well... ScatMan's and KL's interpretation of this is awesome. Man, you guys are great!

The Bm, Dmaj7 and D+ chords are 'really' all just D chords ... with a little color on them. They're functioning as a I chord. G/D is just a G chord (IV). Even the Em/D is sort of a G.

jbmando
July 27th, 2012, 03:03 PM
Ken, you didn't have a ceiling fan on while you played that, did ya?

klasaine
July 27th, 2012, 03:44 PM
Ken, you didn't have a ceiling fan on while you played that, did ya?

Lol! No ceiling fan.
I did have a long delay and as you can see I'm wrangling the neck a lot.

(Headphones help)

This was the 1st time I recorded using the YouTube enabled application (it's really basic and super fast for uploading to youtube which leads me to believe that the quality - bit rate - is the lowest possible).
Usually I use a Zoom Q3 or the movie making programs on either my mac or windows 7 Samsung, which are actually pretty decent.

w3stie
July 27th, 2012, 09:14 PM
Very nice work guys!

ScatMan
July 27th, 2012, 09:22 PM
Sounds great Ken! Really liked that.

Well that is a testament to the king of instruments: the piano.That sounded very good. I'd like to hear someone's version of that on guitar. I don't think it would stand up nearly as well as the piano simply because of the voicing/voice leading restrictions on a guitar that the piano doesn't have. But I could be wrong.

I just used the notes shown by everyone that posted their fingerings.

I did change the root of Davib96's E7#9sus4 in the twelfth measure to an A making it an A7sus and then adding the A7 to get back to D.

Here is a version with both piano and guitar: TDPRI Chords: Piano/Guitar (http://soundcloud.com/kevin-ludwig/tdpri-chords-piano-guitar)

btw: Budda, I'm not trying to hijack you, I'm just having some fun doing my own thing on the side.

stinkey
July 28th, 2012, 05:01 AM
I think it sound way much better then i supposed, it is clearly music, not just a game.
So fun to here it play by others to. Of course i played it in front of my computer.

Piotr
July 28th, 2012, 06:46 AM
That was a nice idea and worked out pretty well!
Klasaine, the weird Leslie sound is a result of lo-fi compression in a webcam/youtube recording. You would get the same effect sometimes while having a Skype video chat with a poor web connection

klasaine
July 28th, 2012, 10:46 AM
Thanks Piotr.
That seems right. I can relate that to the sound quality of SKYPE most of the time.

klasaine
July 28th, 2012, 05:04 PM
It deserves better than my first attempt.
I think this is more representative of what it can be.

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Seasicksailor
July 28th, 2012, 05:24 PM
It deserves better than my first attempt.
I think this is more representative of what it can be.

8BoQOIcJsaA

That's surprisingly good!! :-)

Is it bad that I feel kind of proud to have contributed a chord to that? I mean, that E7 sounds just wonderful! :mrgreen:

Budda
July 29th, 2012, 02:27 AM
Beautiful Ken!

Dig the bend at the end.

klasaine
July 29th, 2012, 10:27 AM
That's surprisingly good!! :-)

Is it bad that I feel kind of proud to have contributed a chord to that? I mean, that E7 sounds just wonderful! :mrgreen:

Lol! Not at all. I myself have contributed many E7s over the years.

eddie knuckles
July 29th, 2012, 02:45 PM
beautiful progression, beautiful articulation and execution. Very nice. Thank you for that.

Budda
July 30th, 2012, 08:38 PM
4 more Measures to go!

..............

jbmando
July 30th, 2012, 09:17 PM
4 more Measures to go!

..............

If I were doing it I'd insert some chords:

| D | D7 | Em/D | E7 |

| G | Bm | Asus4 | A13 |

| Dmaj7 D+ | G/D D7 |Gmaj7 |Gm6 l

|D D Em F#m7|G G E7#9sus4 A7| D |G Gm6| D~

jbmando
July 30th, 2012, 10:13 PM
My take on these chords. I missed the next to last chord (Gm6) so I played it again.

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