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TheKingOfRock July 24th, 2012, 04:24 AM Hey....i just got my first electric for my b'day...a squier affinity tele. Also got an amp,a Laney Linebacker lr20 (don't know if you've heard of it).It's a good amp but i don't know there's something wrong from this amp.Or it just doesn't go with a telecaster
Anyways I am either going to replace it or look for alternatives.I need a decent practice amp.I play post-rock eg.this will destroy you,explosions in the sky,65days of static,maybeshewill,envy,sigur ros etc so i need effects (mainly decent clean,reverb,delay,and a good distortion). I don't play in a band, i just wanna practice at home as my hobby (maybe someday a career)
Based on the research (and my budget)through net i have narrowed my alternatives to:
Vox pathfinder 15r
Roland microcube
Vox mini 3
I don't want mustang (I play guitar to stay away from the laptop),Line 6 spiders are not being imported to the country...so what's your opinions. Should i stay with laney or choose any one from the above mentioned
reflected July 24th, 2012, 04:37 AM Hi, and welcome!
Out of these 3 the Pathfinder wins hands down. However, it's a one trick poney, and if you really want some crazy sounds with lost of effects I suggest you go for the Mustang. You set it up on your laptop once ,then you're good to go. You don't have to plug it in every time you use it.
The Mustang is a Pathfinder + 15 other amps in one ;)
The Roland cube just doesn't sound as good as a Mustang.
TheKingOfRock July 24th, 2012, 04:58 AM thanx for the quick reply.........but as it turns out the store from where i bought doesn't have the mustang(India is one the worst countries to buy guitar gear) and they take no returns on the amps so i am stuck with either replacing the laney or choosing between the above amps.....so if u say that the p15r is a one-trick poney,which is better b/w vox mini and microcube
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TheKingOfRock July 24th, 2012, 05:25 AM good suggestion but not available in india (I told you ,one of the worst places)but anyway is the distortion really bad on vox p15r......and has anyone even heard of the Laney amp
reflected July 24th, 2012, 06:46 AM Roland is not very good, and Vox amps all have the same kind of distortion. Let's face it, Vox is mainly for clean & crunchy. Laney-s are Vox copies, sort of, so don't expect anything better.
Then again, it's all about what YOU like, so check out some reviews on youtube if you can't try the real thing.
electrablue July 24th, 2012, 07:20 AM Welcome!
CharlesCapps July 24th, 2012, 07:30 AM Welcome, and I like the Roland a lot.
TheKingOfRock July 24th, 2012, 07:40 AM Thank you for the replys.........i'll try to arrange the mustang 1 from somewhere (although the chances are pretty slim) and as i have figured out my laney amp seems to be a faulty piece.It has a good clean sound and the wreck channel on the laney has a pretty brutal distortion
So I'll stick with Laney if i can't get the mustang unless someone convinces me the mini and the micro amps will be better considering i will use the amp for practice only (as of yet)
FrankJames July 24th, 2012, 11:19 AM Welcome to TDPRI !!
waparker4 July 24th, 2012, 11:43 AM I don't want mustang (I play guitar to stay away from the laptop)
With you 100%
Don't discount the pathfinder because someone on the internet told you it was a one-trick pony. One-trick ponies defined all the great electric guitar sounds of the 50's through the 80's. People will pay thousands of dollars for an old one-trick pony. You just have to pick the right trick for you. My favorite amp (DRRI) is a one-trick pony. I think it does the best trick in the world.
The Pathfinder has reverb, tremolo and a boost switch. That's like, 4 tricks right there. I would urge you to search the tdpri about the amp, find demo videos online, and try it in person
What's the effects pedal market like in India?
I have no interest or use for a digital modeling amp. I get nauseous enough troubleshooting a personal computer. ymmv!
TheKingOfRock July 24th, 2012, 11:51 AM Well there are pedals available but they are quite costly (the good ones) and are also very limited in stock and not much variety....i won't be buying anymore gear for another 9-10 months so that's why i'm opting for a modelling amp
Televised July 24th, 2012, 12:04 PM Vox Pathfinder 15R certainly worked for me and the price is right. The "Boost" button genuinely works with decent reverb and tremelo.
TheKingOfRock July 24th, 2012, 12:53 PM I've asked for the pathfinder at the store,it will come next week.....and i'll check it out
By the way how's the distortion on pf15r...i tried the pf10,the clean was really good but the distortion was a bit off and no reverb or tremolo
It's funny no one has suggested me to keep the laney
Abu Twangy July 25th, 2012, 05:42 PM I have a Microcube and it is a decent amp, but its best two models are the Jazz Chorus and Vox models. It is good for what it is: a highly portable battery powered amp.
The Pathfinder 15 is a good SS amp, but make sure you get the Pathfinder R with reverb. The distortion isn't to shabby for a solid state amp. Some people have modified their Pathfinder to fit a 10" speaker to get more volume and a fuller sound.
One of my Teles is an Indian-made Squier Telecaster--a nice sounding and playing guitar.
Rod Parsons July 25th, 2012, 05:49 PM Vox pathfinder 15 R.....
TheKingOfRock July 27th, 2012, 10:54 AM I am wondering should i get a new pathfinder 10 + a used zoom g2.1u
The total cost is roughly equal to the vox pathfinder 15r or any other modelling amp of the same price(mustang 1,spider iv 15...and so on)
TheKingOfRock July 29th, 2012, 05:29 PM anyone???
Abu Twangy July 29th, 2012, 05:38 PM I'm not too hot about Zoom's stuff--I had an old 505II and a G1X. Neither had an easy to use interface. And the Pathfinder 10 uses a 6.5" speaker. At least the 15 has an 8"
The Mustang I, Vypyr 15 and Line 6 Spider IV would kick the Zoom to the curb. If you have to compromise, get a Vox DA 15 or 20 used. They do fairly well for being previous generation modeling amps.
TheKingOfRock July 29th, 2012, 05:50 PM thank you abu twangy......the shop owner said that the line 6 MAY arrive within a month
Should i wait for it (i mean is it worth the wait) or get any one of the amps i mentioned before??
Warm Gums July 29th, 2012, 06:06 PM Laney amps are not readly available stateside..how ever it took me 30 seconds to find yours on line..
The LR 20 appears to be a modeling amp similar to a Line 6 Spyder 15
That being the case, you are probably finding the stock settings to be too intense ( common problem with modeling amps)
Check out your owners manual, or look at one at the Laney site,and dial things back a good bit, and you should be happier.
Pathfinder is a cool amp but since you have already paid for the Laney, I would spend some time with it. No amp will sound its best unless you understand it's strengths and weakness, and spend some time learning how to " play" it..after all it's part of the instrument.
italo July 29th, 2012, 06:29 PM Unless it's broken I don't think there's nothing wrong owning a Laney amp as your first amp. Reading your first post I see you are new to electric guitar and amps. It gets some time to adjust your playing to an electric and sound half decent. Same thing exploring amp sound.
I say stay with what you have for some more time, practice, explore. Hopefully you will outgrow your guitar and amp, then you'll know better what you need to suit the sounds you are after.
Welcome to the quest for tone!
TheKingOfRock July 29th, 2012, 06:29 PM No amp will sound its best unless you understand it's strengths and weakness, and spend some time learning how to " play" it..after all it's part of the instrument.
True.I've been really liking certain sounds from the laney (using it excessively since a week) but it lacks a certain 'crunch' for the bluesy or vintage rock sounds....maybe that's just my guitar.And further it doesn't have a gain knob (all the presets are fixed according to gain) just a bass and treble equalizer so i am not able get that tone. I do love some features of this amp though
It's absolutely spot on if one plays hard rock,prog rock,metal (certain types of metal) only but i figured if i am getting a modelling amp i may as well be able to play much more types of music after all i am trying to find my sound .1 day i'll be playing some kings of leon,another day explosions,even some iron maiden and HIM (the guitarist uses a laney...perfect for his sound) and i don't want to choose an amp which will put my mind towards a certain window of music.
TheKingOfRock July 30th, 2012, 06:13 PM The Laney can surely get the sounds from some of the bands i like(Opeth,HIM,Sabbath,Explosions in the sky,65days of static,Jeff buckley,Envy...)but it's not getting "the sound",the sound that i want.......
So back to the main question.Should i wait for the line 6 or get any other amp......I may even try to get a Laney Prism P20 (well my guitar store has whole lots of laneys available...i think they might be the main dealer of laney in my region)It's the only other modelling amp available at the moment or even a roland cube 15xl,but it doesn't have effects
The prism is 50-60$ more and has a separate gain knob unlike the lr20 and the ability to save your own settings....same as line 6 or a peavy vypyr but costs extra??
Oh man am I confused....somebody HELP!!!
Lunchie July 30th, 2012, 06:51 PM Hey....i just got my first electric for my b'day...a squier affinity tele. Also got an amp,a Laney Linebacker lr20 (don't know if you've heard of it).It's a good amp but i don't know there's something wrong from this amp.Or it just doesn't go with a telecaster
Anyways I am either going to replace it or look for alternatives.I need a decent practice amp.I play post-rock eg.this will destroy you,explosions in the sky,65days of static,maybeshewill,envy,sigur ros etc so i need effects (mainly decent clean,reverb,delay,and a good distortion). I don't play in a band, i just wanna practice at home as my hobby (maybe someday a career)
Based on the research (and my budget)through net i have narrowed my alternatives to:
Vox pathfinder 15r
Roland microcube
Vox mini 3
I don't want mustang (I play guitar to stay away from the laptop),Line 6 spiders are not being imported to the country...so what's your opinions. Should i stay with laney or choose any one from the above mentioned
Cant go wrong with the pathfinder... i also suggest a vox valvetronix. I have a AD30VT and love it. With 30 watts its gigable (although i dont gig) and it still sounds good at low volume.
Hiker July 30th, 2012, 07:30 PM Welcome!
You'll notice that the Pathfinder is one of (or the most) popular amps in that price range as shown by the interest by members on this forum. We've got a club, too! This amp would not be that popular on the forum if it was a one-trick pony, would it? I've got one, and use it almost daily.
What is surprising about the Pathfinder is the quality of sound from the 8 inch speaker.
Watch The Basement Vox Pathfinder / AC15 Demo comparison on youtube, or the Guitar Tone comparison between it and the Vox AC30C2 on that site. The tube amps used in the comparison are very popular, too!
The Roland Cubes are mostly good. However, I'd suggest you stay away from a micro cube, or battery powered unit.
TheKingOfRock July 31st, 2012, 09:27 AM ok.....now i may be able to get some more money for either the vox vt20+ or the roland cube 20xl but only if it's good enough
Any suggestions??
TheKingOfRock August 1st, 2012, 04:53 PM so i have got some extra money on my birthday(thank you grandma,couldn't have been a better time) and thinking of either the vox vt20+ or the laney prism p20(my lr 20 was a non modeller/tweakable version of the the p20)
I am currently leaning towards the laney because:
1.I don't want 30-40 presets when i may be using just 5 or 6
2.The ongoing snare hissing problem in the vt20+ reported by almost all of the users is kind of putting me off
3.It is cheaper than the vox
The only reason i'm in for the the vox is the quantity of the effect and the ability to edit the effects is more than the laney (not sure about the quality though the effects on my laney were pretty usable) even though i will be using only a few of them.
I know you will say get a pathfinder and get some pedals later,but where i live the cost of 2 decent pedals that i need(I've said it before and i'll say it again,I live in one of the worst countries to buy guitar gears) is more than the pathfinder itself......so even though i like the clean sounds of the pathfinder it just won't be practical and economical for me to get pedals.
So back to the main question: LANEY P20 or VOX VT20+ ???
Is the tone on the vox the best a moddeling amp can offer,if yes then i'll consider the vox ,if not back to the laney
TheKingOfRock August 8th, 2012, 02:59 PM oh c'mon somebody...
ShadowChancer August 8th, 2012, 04:36 PM Hi man I use a Laney Lc15r valve combo and it kills with teles , wicked amps , choose your effects well and experiment experiment experiment with settings etc , jumble the order of the pedals , set eq against the norms , just push it and you will find a sound in your Laney for sure , keep at it , any questions dont hesitate to get in touch mate , will help if I can
ShadowChancer August 8th, 2012, 05:05 PM Black Sabbath and half of the Brit rock legends use Laney (and still do) , endorsement enough ??? most of us grew up listening to music played through a Laney , it worked for us in the the sixties , seventies , eighties , ninetys , and through to this century , fair track record
TheKingOfRock August 9th, 2012, 04:09 PM Well I am thinking if the Laney Prism doesn't work, how about this
Squier Affinity Tele + Vox Pathfinder 15r + new Digitech rp50(ya it's outdated and not in production anymore,but it's still available here and the only one in my budget)
NastyMojo August 10th, 2012, 08:29 PM Welcome!! and I would go for a line 6 spider,or a Fender Mustang
rebelwoclue August 11th, 2012, 02:19 AM Welcome, between you and ss192 from India, I don't think I will go to India to find used guitars!
TheKingOfRock August 11th, 2012, 04:49 AM Welcome!! and I would go for a line 6 spider,or a Fender Mustang
Unfortunately these are not available at the store and won't be any time soon
TheKingOfRock August 11th, 2012, 05:05 AM Welcome, between you and ss192 from India, I don't think I will go to India to find used guitars!
It's not that you can't get guitar gear in India.It's just that you can't get things easily for music other than metal.All the amps,pedals,guitars and other gears are available for heavy metal but very little for blues,rock and absolutely nothing for post rock.I had to wait 3 weeks for my affinity tele,another 1 for the pathfinder 15r(I got the laney as it was the only one available in the 15-20 watt range and i didn't want just a guitar and no amp to play on my b'day) and now have been waiting another week for the laney p20 to arrive and just to test them.If you are a metal head you get anything at any price be it used or new...but if you play anything else then it's a hard find.
TheKingOfRock August 20th, 2012, 04:19 PM well there's a twist in the tail...the mustang 1 will be arriving within 2 days and the laney prism still hasn't come.Also the mustang is the same price as the linebacker(my current amp...yes i still have it but not been playing with it just to make sure nothing gets wrong or they won't take it back) so no more cashing for the prism
Any thoughts on the mustang 1 and more importantly how are the fuzz and the wah effects???
vincent August 23rd, 2012, 01:02 AM I used a Laney for a year or two back in the mid-nineties. It was a solid state amp. Pretty solid. I played mostly clean tones on it though and used pedals for my overdrive tones.
Also the Line 6 Spider has some pretty good tones that work well with the Tele. Not really the hi gain setting but the clean to mild overdrives work well.
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