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Compression AFTER Overdrive??

jswiss
July 18th, 2012, 05:56 PM
Obviously i could just do this myself, but im not really in the mood to rearrange my pedalboard at the moment....but i was wondering if anyone has an opinion of Compression after OD. Now bear with me...

Ok. So, one of, if not my favorite guitar tone to use is my tele middle pickup, with light overdrive, swoopy delay, and working the volume pedal while playing with a glass slide. Its super ambient and really fills out a lot of space and i love it. Anyway, I know some people put their volume pedals before the OD, but i love mine after my OD, because when i swell in that way, it starts out sounding overdriven but sweetens up as the swell comes in, because even though it sounds like its getting more signal with the volume swell, the OD is getting less signal and cleans up some. So it has this really cool feeling of release as it swells in dirty at first but sweetens up by the end of the swell.
ANYWAY, I recently started using a compressor, and i absolutely love how it lovey doveys my tone and smoothes everything over. I have it at the front of my chain. However ive noticed that when i use the compressor along with this OD/Delay/Volume swells+slide tone that i absolutely love, it doesnt sound the way i like it!! The compressor seems to be giving the OD more signal, so as i swell in, wanting the tone to clean up as the swell gets louder, it just stays dirty because of the compressor sending a more compressed signal into my OD.
OKAY. So, after all of that, i was wondering if anyone uses their compressor after their OD? Im thinking about switching it around, because i really want to have the filled out sound my compressor gives with the ambient sound i love, but with the compressor in front of the OD, its jsut not working.

Thanks for reading all my rambling. Im hoping that make at least like....40% sense.

artdecade
July 18th, 2012, 06:02 PM
Vince Gill and Trey Anastasio both run their compressors post dirt. And, so do their legions of fans! I also like to run it that way (at least that's how I do it when I use a compressor).

gwjensen
July 18th, 2012, 06:08 PM
Short answer to a long question: Sure, if you like the way it sounds. Nothing else matters.

oceanman2
July 18th, 2012, 06:44 PM
I've become a fan of running my Diamond comp after my Paisley, but i don't think I'm after the same sound as you (slide, swells, etc). I like the smoothness. Also because I run a boost before the Paisley, it makes the OD growl & sparkle more, but the comp keeps it even and balanced.

gitold
July 18th, 2012, 06:57 PM
I use both depending what sort of sound I'm after. Very transparent Carl Martin Opto comp before dirt and HHB retro after to squish it. I dont normally use them together but I do occasionally.

6Shotsdown
July 18th, 2012, 07:01 PM
http://i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/004/077/Raisins_Face.jpg

artdecade
July 18th, 2012, 07:09 PM
^ huh?

Piotr
July 19th, 2012, 04:31 AM
I do it as well, have my Rothwell Love Squeeze compressor after the Blackstone Appliances MOSFET Overdrive.

VintageToneGuy
July 19th, 2012, 05:09 AM
I've been running my Tone Press after my Direct Drive Super Sport for about one week now with good results. I like the fact that my DD\SS is a bit more 'responsive' to my pick attack now.

6Shotsdown
July 19th, 2012, 11:36 AM
^ huh?

That's the meme face for being shocked. As in "I'm shocked that someone would go outside the box and put the compressor after the OD's."

That said, I'm not crazy about my compression sound in front of my OD's so I think I'm gonna try it out as well!

Also, before I get attacked for the pedal order thing... Yes, I am aware that there are no real standards for pedal order.

jtees4
July 19th, 2012, 11:55 AM
My board is simple. Overdrive...compressor....delay. The compressor is used as a boost pedal for overdrive leads, and works well as a regular compressor for cleans when the overdrive is off.

Arbiter
July 19th, 2012, 12:16 PM
Compression AFTER Overdrive??

As I recall this is one of the signature elements of Holdsworth's tone. You can get some very violinish type tones this way.

Cooper Black
July 19th, 2012, 02:22 PM
Present!

I run a Dyna Comp after my FDII. This allow me to roll back my guitar volume knob into clean tones without losing too much actual volume.

I also run a TS-clone after the Dyna Comp, because I like the smooth lead sound I get pushing a hot, compressed tone into the TS.

The FDII stay always ON (low gain grit), but I'll use either the TS or the FDII Boost (not both).

timbo_93631
July 19th, 2012, 02:29 PM
The common advice not to run a compressor after a drive pedal comes from the principle that compressors boost the signal as it decays to create sustain thefore an OD with a high noise floor will be getting hiss/noise amplified along with the signal. If you are using a low noise floor OD you shouldn't really ever have an issue.

waparker4
July 19th, 2012, 02:29 PM
Present!

I run a Dyna Comp after my FDII. This allow me to roll back my guitar volume knob into clean tones without losing too much actual volume.

I also run a TS-clone after the Dyna Comp, because I like the smooth lead sound I get pushing a hot, compressed tone into the TS.

The FDII stay always ON (low gain grit), but I'll use either the TS or the FDII Boost (not both).

Cool :cool: May I ask what amp you are using?

I usually play a DRRI, which in effect is a compressor in itself if you turn it up loud enough :grin: it goes after my dirt pedals :wink:

Cooper Black
July 19th, 2012, 02:42 PM
Back-in-the-day I played a SFPR. Re-electrifying after a decade unplugged, I ended up with a Super Champ XD which is perfect for my situation (I play out acoustically, so this is a studio amp only).

Mostly I use Channel 1, but lately have found uses for Voice 1 (a Tweed emulation) which has a significant amount of compression built into the model itself. Sounds real loud at small-room-friendly volumes (and mics up fantastic!)