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Why is janis joplin suddenly hot?

rita
July 12th, 2012, 11:16 PM
Anyone know why Janis Joplin is suddenly getting hot?

Yesterday there was an news article about a new Janis Joplin movie going into production. Apparently they have right to use Joplin songs from her estate. But what about the Big Brother and the Holding Company stuff and things she didn’t write?

Also someone just announced a new photo archive’s been discovered of Janis performing at the Fillmore East. It’s on the Kickstarter website. They're looking to mount an exhibition in Hollywood. Here's the link :
(link removed by moderator - we don't allow fundraising links!)

Why all the buzz????

Hiker
July 12th, 2012, 11:22 PM
She was different, and that created buzz-when she was alive. After her passing, the audience seemed more interested in other rising artists. Her screaming style was lost on me-then, and now.

e-merlin
July 12th, 2012, 11:29 PM
Maybe someone dug her up and stuck her in the oven. Drug-ridden oversexed blah blah blah...

Your mileage may vary. Never cared much for her...

Gawd, I'm an a-hole...

Mike Eskimo
July 12th, 2012, 11:34 PM
Maybe someone dug her up and stuck her in the oven. Drug-ridden oversexed blah blah blah...

Your mileage may vary. Never cared much for her...

Gawd, I'm an a-hole...


:lol:


BTW, her solo recordings are really great, as is this tune w/ Jorma on reso :

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Ricky D.
July 12th, 2012, 11:41 PM
Anyone know why Janis Joplin is suddenly getting hot?

Yesterday there was an news article about a new Janis Joplin movie going into production. Apparently they have right to use Joplin songs from her estate. But what about the Big Brother and the Holding Company stuff and things she didn’t write?

Also someone just announced a new photo archive’s been discovered of Janis performing at the Fillmore East. It’s on the Kickstarter website. They're looking to mount an exhibition in Hollywood. Here's the link :
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/971862028/the-janis-joplin-project

Why all the buzz????

My guess is that the movie producer has a high-grade PR company generating and placing stories/events to build interest for the movie.

colorado
July 13th, 2012, 01:01 AM
They've sucked everything they can out of Jimi Hendrix, the Beatles and Bob Marley and are looking for "fresh meat".

(OK admittedly that's all decayed meat - hey Paul, if the shoe fits!)

BTW I really like Janis. I hope they don't completely turn her into "Janis Joplin" tm.

brookdalebill
July 13th, 2012, 02:00 AM
Though I was never a fan of her music, I
loved her interview with Dick Cavett.
She was a very sweet person, IMO.

RubyRae
July 13th, 2012, 05:09 PM
I don't know, but Bobby Womack sure mentions her in nearly every interview he does.
I have always liked her, but the older I get the more I like her...
Never found her remotley attractive though, and that will certainly not change with age.

Tim Armstrong
July 13th, 2012, 05:12 PM
The singer in my old band in Ocean City does a really good job with Janis Joplin songs, and has for going on twenty years now. Folks have always gone crazy for them, so this is nothing new, just more media buzz because of the movie, I reckon...

Tim

Telesavalis
July 13th, 2012, 05:13 PM
Suddenly hot?

blues dues
July 13th, 2012, 05:17 PM
Always thought she was a great talent, raw & ready, she had pipes

kddean66
July 13th, 2012, 05:30 PM
Probably because most of the Baby Boomers are waxing nostalgic as they retire. It's also been long enough ago that new generations like to cover old generations' music.

JohnnyN
July 13th, 2012, 06:30 PM
Among other it could be Alabama Shakes popularity.
Maybe some of the youngsters wants to know who this Janis Joplin is, that some people compare Brittany to.

garytelecastor
July 13th, 2012, 06:37 PM
Maybe someone dug her up and stuck her in the oven. Drug-ridden oversexed blah blah blah...

Your mileage may vary. Never cared much for her...

Gawd, I'm an a-hole...

So am I, e. I never could see what people saw in her, but it was the 60's and there was an awful lot of illegal pharmaceuticals going around.
I really always thought she was terrible.
Her big sell was that she was so rough and tumble. Very anti-feminine, and perfect for the day. Drank a lot of southern comfort, at least that was said about her, but I don't know if that is true.

garytelecastor
July 13th, 2012, 06:40 PM
I totally missed that this is your first post, Rita.

Welcome aboard.
Good to have more feminine influence here.

Skully
July 13th, 2012, 06:46 PM
Believe it when the cameras actually start rolling. The movie in question is not scheduled to begin shooting until next year. There have been multiple attempts to do a Janis Joplin biopic in the last decade and none of them have come to fruition.

"The Rose" starring Bette Midler borrowed a lot of details from Joplin's life, which probably hasn't helped.

musicalmartin
July 13th, 2012, 07:01 PM
She always scared the **** out of me but my wife hated her so she must be pretty good .

voodoostation
July 13th, 2012, 07:22 PM
I always thought she was attractive. Would have enjoyed hanging with her. She was just a chick.

dog fart
July 13th, 2012, 07:29 PM
Welcome aboard Rita. My thoughts, and I might be completely wrong, are
A- stirring up press for the coming movie
B- After years of fake plastic Barbie girls lip synching their way through until the next manufactured idol comes along people want someone who's real. She was raw and had pasion when performing. Not just a polished turd going through the motions. Before anyone starts swinging please take a moment to compare pictures of Janis in her prime with any top twenty star of today.

I hope the money makers don't put too much polish on her while making this movie. There's certainly nothing romantic about her death and I'd hate it if even one teenaged girl decided to follow Janis's example.

fezz parka
July 13th, 2012, 07:40 PM
If you can get past the horrible acid laced guitar intro, this is why she's hot:
05vqWQzciQQ

hekawi
July 13th, 2012, 07:48 PM
I always thought she was attractive. Would have enjoyed hanging with her. She was just a chick.

she woulda killed ya, man.

rlyacht
July 13th, 2012, 08:12 PM
If you can get past the horrible acid laced guitar intro, this is why she's hot:


Good point. It's amazing to me that someone with her talent was playing with someone who could produce a solo like. Was it just drugs and when not stoned, he was just swell? What makes me doubt this is the fact that there are plenty of great musicians in rock and jazz who played under the influence and seemed to do just fine. (Kids don't try this at home, however).

dog fart
July 13th, 2012, 08:40 PM
If you can get past the horrible acid laced guitar intro, this is why she's hot:
05vqWQzciQQ

This is exactly what I'm trying to say. Such passion and no eye liner, hairspray or even one choreographed dance troupe in site. If Taylor or Lady Gagga or "insert name here" could come close to this level I would be in heaven. I do have to agree that intro was a lot like chewing on tin foil.

And to Hekawi, she might have killed me but man what a way to go :cool:

fezz parka
July 13th, 2012, 08:43 PM
Only Billie Holiday was better.

Maxwell Street
July 13th, 2012, 08:53 PM
/s40vz3xeanY

mal paso
July 13th, 2012, 09:12 PM
Fezz killed it on this one




It's true, only Billie was better





Janis isn't suddenly hot, she's as hot as she's always been, and as hot as she'll always be

here's proof

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mal paso
July 13th, 2012, 09:14 PM
Anybody that disagrees has broken ears

teleporter
July 13th, 2012, 09:16 PM
Suddenly hot?

+1:shock:

Sidney Vicious
July 13th, 2012, 09:20 PM
A fan then and now - always hot to me.

Larry F
July 13th, 2012, 09:24 PM
She was an incredible musician. Her intonation was flawless and expressive. No auto-tune needed there. In interviews and videos of recording sessions, she seems really smart and focused on the details of an arrangement and recording. Her voice was perfect and stunning. The movie, Festival Express, has a sweet and funny scene of her jamming with Jerry Garcia, Rick Danko, and others. It is probably on YouTube. They are drunk as skunks and having a blast.

When I was playing in the Pacific Northwest, there was a band around called East Meets West, or something like that. It featured a Japanese women singing in a Joplin voice. She didn't speak English, and learned the songs phonetically. Her husband/boyfriend/partner was also from Japan. He played pedal steel guitar through a fuzz tone, just like Sneaky Pete. This was around 1969. He was a great player, as well.

Her loss really hurt. As many people know, Hendrix, Joplin, and Jim Morrison died within a year or less of each other. Everything in our culture at the time was fantastic, innovative, and just beautiful in so many ways. Drugs were, at first, just weak stuff and generally fun for many people. But by the end of the 60s and into the 70s, people got into other drugs that caused a lot of different problems. With the death of these musicians, and others like Al Wilson, Manson, and Altamont, things suddenly got very dark, very fast. Out of that came light, silly music, like Yacht Rock and disco. As stupid as much of that music was to me, it was also a little calming and reassuring, and definitely not threatening. The early 70s were a period of re-adjustment and pulling inward. I have a hard time imagining what Joplin, Hendrix, and Morrison would be doing in the early 70s. They might very well have been pushed aside by the silly, lite music trend.

Stuco
July 13th, 2012, 09:35 PM
Janis has always been great in my book.

acalan
July 13th, 2012, 09:39 PM
Yeah ,she was a little raw, but it worked well for her and her band.I'll bet she could have had a huge impact on music if she had lived longer.She could have been right at the top .

czook
July 13th, 2012, 09:43 PM
Just some promo going on for the coming movie.

Janice was great at what she did. Some of her stuff is so unique that very few could copy it.

Not sure she did all that many drugs, she was too drunk. :)

czook
July 13th, 2012, 09:56 PM
She was an incredible musician. Her intonation was flawless and expressive. No auto-tune needed there. In interviews and videos of recording sessions, she seems really smart and focused on the details of an arrangement and recording. Her voice was perfect and stunning. The movie, Festival Express, has a sweet and funny scene of her jamming with Jerry Garcia, Rick Danko, and others. It is probably on YouTube. They are drunk as skunks and having a blast.

When I was playing in the Pacific Northwest, there was a band around called East Meets West, or something like that. It featured a Japanese women singing in a Joplin voice. She didn't speak English, and learned the songs phonetically. Her husband/boyfriend/partner was also from Japan. He played pedal steel guitar through a fuzz tone, just like Sneaky Pete. This was around 1969. He was a great player, as well.

Her loss really hurt. As many people know, Hendrix, Joplin, and Jim Morrison died within a year or less of each other. Everything in our culture at the time was fantastic, innovative, and just beautiful in so many ways. Drugs were, at first, just weak stuff and generally fun for many people. But by the end of the 60s and into the 70s, people got into other drugs that caused a lot of different problems. With the death of these musicians, and others like Al Wilson, Manson, and Altamont, things suddenly got very dark, very fast. Out of that came light, silly music, like Yacht Rock and disco. As stupid as much of that music was to me, it was also a little calming and reassuring, and definitely not threatening. The early 70s were a period of re-adjustment and pulling inward. I have a hard time imagining what Joplin, Hendrix, and Morrison would be doing in the early 70s. They might very well have been pushed aside by the silly, lite music trend.

I think they would have been pushed aside by the pop music and disco, but surviving as cult musicians and still touring for the boomers.

Maxwell Street
July 14th, 2012, 12:17 AM
Not sure she did all that many drugs, she was too drunk. :)


liked heroin too...od'd.

Dave W
July 14th, 2012, 01:15 AM
My guess is that the movie producer has a high-grade PR company generating and placing stories/events to build interest for the movie.

Such as a post by a new member on a guitar forum, with a link to a fundraiser.

But that's just my natural cynicism.

Frontier9
July 14th, 2012, 02:08 AM
...oversexed...What the hell does that even mean? I've heard it all my life and I haven't a clue.

younkint
July 14th, 2012, 02:12 AM
Such as a post by a new member on a guitar forum, with a link to a fundraiser.

But that's just my natural cynicism.

Evidently my cynicism, too. A search found sometimes identical postings at other discussion sites.

I've always liked her, but was wondering whether I'd just seen the shadow of a vulture...




.

younkint
July 14th, 2012, 02:13 AM
What the hell does that even mean? I've heard it all my life and I haven't a clue.

oversexed |ˌōvərˈsekst|
adjective
having unusually strong sexual desires.




.

Maxwell Street
July 14th, 2012, 04:03 AM
R Crumb...

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g394/FScavullo/cheap_thrills_janis_joplin.gif

Frontier9
July 14th, 2012, 08:09 AM
oversexed |ˌōvərˈsekst|
adjective
having unusually strong sexual desires.




.My real question is why does this get said about a woman with "unusually strong sexual desires" when a guy would just be called a playah?

garyd5158
July 14th, 2012, 09:14 AM
The popularity of Adele and Joss Stone are leading people back to Janis.

e23589
July 14th, 2012, 10:03 AM
Just say "JANIS"!
They'll know who she is!

KenH
July 14th, 2012, 10:25 AM
I'm surprised Oliver Stone hasn't already produced this.

Tele295
July 14th, 2012, 10:34 AM
They've tried to make it, but ran into certain licensing issues:
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This is just fun. No offense to Janis intended

Skully
July 14th, 2012, 10:44 AM
She had a great voice, but didn't do much in the songwriting department. Her musical path (bloozy) was not very interesting or innovative when compared to a contemporary like Grace Slick. But Grace was cold and intellectual and Janie was a raw open nerve, and that's a huge part of her appeal. I think it's also safe to say that Janis was a desperately unhappy woman.

Attractive? No -- not in any conventional sense and not to me.

As a rule, I can't stand female singers whose primary influence is Janis.

oldmark
July 14th, 2012, 10:55 AM
When she first got popular, she was going against the standard "female singer" type-she was based on the 1930's black female blues singers, Bessie Smith, mostly, and that rang a lot of bells...there was emerging interest in that style of blues that came oddly enough from British bands after US listeners had abandoned blues almost completely except as a curiosity. Eric Burdon used to say that the British took the Blues from the trash where the Americans had discarded it and sent it back to us, where it was regarded as something new. A lot of people never understood that bands like Led Zeppelin were recycling old American music as they saw it...I guess some people still don't get that.

It is also true that Janis was in the right place at the right time... Other of the more aggressive female singers of the time...I'm thinking of Lydia Pense, singing with Cold Blood...just barely got noticed. The record companies and the radio people had one singer in that category, and that's all they wanted, so that's all they played.

It is a real shame that our music is so restricted, and i think it is even worse today...there are a lot of great bands playing right now that get minimum exposure in the media, yet continue to continue, while other bands junk gets air play and media coverage. It's a ****ty system, and it is not fair to musicians or listeners...but it makes things easier for music companies and media, which is all they are concerned about.


mark

telleutelleme
July 14th, 2012, 11:03 AM
IMHO she was pretty important. She came out of the South Texas Blues world and brought it to Phsychadelia. Lots of bands started adding blues influence and even blues players. She and other early blues influenced bands probably helped to bring acts like Otis Redding and others into mainstream markets. I think she was a major influence in the direction of music in the mid 60's. She did have a screaming style but she was following a tradition of female blues singers. Ma Rainey, Bessie Smith, Big Momma Thorton, Etta James were some of her influences. Pulled Kris out of country for a while but that might have been the Southern Comfort.

portsider
July 14th, 2012, 11:15 AM
Attractive? No -- not in any conventional sense and not to me.

Funny criticizes Bob Dylan's looks.
I am not a political correctness guy and I am as happy as the next guy to see a good looking woman on stage, but since when does someone's looks have anything to do with their musicianship.
That is how the "music" industry looks at it and why there is darn little good mainstream music these days.
Oh, and Janis was a great great singer. She could make time stand still.

gypsymoth
July 14th, 2012, 12:53 PM
time stand still? suddenly hot?

did Cheap Thrills just get released?

Skully
July 14th, 2012, 01:06 PM
Funny criticizes Bob Dylan's looks.
I am not a political correctness guy and I am as happy as the next guy to see a good looking woman on stage, but since when does someone's looks have anything to do with their musicianship.
That is how the "music" industry looks at it and why there is darn little good mainstream music these days.
Oh, and Janis was a great great singer. She could make time stand still.

Several people in this thread discussed how physically attractive she was or wasn't. I just weighed in with my opinion. Perhaps their importance lessened a bit in the time between the end of "The Ed Sullivan Show" and the birth of MTV, but looks have always been a big part of the equation. Don't kid yourself.

The way an artist looks can affect how much I enjoy the music, because I am living through/identifying with the singer to a degree. Joplin's relative homeliness probably helped her to an extent in that regard. It made her more attainable for boys and easier to identify with for girls.

gypsymoth
July 14th, 2012, 01:22 PM
the irony is that the "acid laced guitar" band was dumped in favor of a more professional and polished group which was considered more worthy of her talents.

I was at this show, by the end of the set she couldn't stand up - so much for polished and pro ... and shortly later she was gone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tuxle0Y7DY

studebaker hawk
July 14th, 2012, 01:30 PM
Janis kicked butt!

When she was recording, it was one of the best times for music. She was influenced by a variety of music, as were numerous other groups. You could hear it all on the radio, unlike today. You can hear Jazz influences in her singing (somes call it screaming, I calls it singing).

And let's hear it for James Gurley RIP, He and Gary Duncan (Quicksilver Messenger Service) do not get the accolades they deserve!

studebaker hawk
July 14th, 2012, 01:34 PM
Several people in this thread discussed how physically attractive she was or wasn't.

She may not have appeared as pretty as other singers, because onstage she focused on singing, above looking cute.

Skully
July 14th, 2012, 02:39 PM
She may not have appeared as pretty as other singers, because onstage she focused on singing, above looking cute.

Give me a break. Do you doubt that she was very concerned about looking attractive onstage?

drewsblues
July 14th, 2012, 02:48 PM
While Janis Joplin was certainly GOOD, she was never, ever hot...

fezz parka
July 14th, 2012, 03:05 PM
Naw She didn't care what she wore...:rolleyes:

Maxwell Street
July 14th, 2012, 05:09 PM
While Janis Joplin was certainly GOOD, she was never, ever hot...

I believe the OP meant hot as in "hot topic"...rita? Rita has left the building...

gitold
July 15th, 2012, 10:25 AM
It was 1967 and I was a brand new teenager and staying home from school sick. Dick Cavett had a morning or afternoon show and Big Brother was on. They did Piece of my heart and it tore my head off. I just could not believe any thing could sound so good.
I dont listen to Janis much any more but you really had to be there to understand how different and fresh she was. Looking back as a kid in the 2000's 60's rock can sound pretty dated but hearing Joplin, Hendrix, Cocker, and so many others constantly change the course of music year after year made following years pretty boring for me.

Tim Armstrong
July 15th, 2012, 12:24 PM
I believe the OP meant hot as in "hot topic"...rita? Rita has left the building...

I kinda think maybe Rita lost interest after I removed the link to the Kickstarter page....

Tim

tpaul
July 15th, 2012, 12:31 PM
She was great. My 5 YO son loves her music too. He does a pretty good version of "Piece of My Heart."

TCASTJOE
July 15th, 2012, 12:58 PM
I love the emotion she injected into every song. The passion. You could actually feel the pain of her life coming out of her. I love her music.

urizen
July 15th, 2012, 04:23 PM
It's her bio-pic in development--- the studio's pushing product w/ manufactured buzz; right now the lead seems most likely to be Sandler, since his career slumped hard w/ that last dog he made...but Travolta (remember how good he was in Hairspray?) is pressing hard for it.

I think Lindsay Lohan is slotted to play Leonard Cohen with an extended soliloquy during the (notorious) Chelsea Hotel episode.

Should be interesting.

Maxwell Street
July 16th, 2012, 12:47 AM
I kinda think maybe Rita lost interest after I removed the link to the Kickstarter page....

Tim

Ever vigilant...nicely done. :grin:

urizen
July 16th, 2012, 07:10 PM
I kinda think maybe Rita lost interest after I removed the link to the Kickstarter page....

Tim

Aw, dang, Tim, but now you intrigued me re: the link.

Ah well, at least it gave me a chance to crack on about the putative casting for the bio-pic.