The answer is always Rat...

... just buy one and save yourself from having to type another question about which dirt/boost/distortion/fuzz box to buy. :lol: Yes, it does all those things... and it does them well!

How did I see this coming?

Never played a rat. How do they sound with a twin reverb?

Here we go...

:lol::lol::lol:

What's a Rat?...never heard of it.

I can't believe it took you almost two years to do this!:lol:

I can't believe it took you almost two years to do this!:lol:

Well, now he can make up for lost time...

Here we go...

:lol::lol::lol:

Welcome back Joe! LOL

Welcome back Joe! LOL

Thanks.

This is a funny thread.

Absolutely no content whatsoever, with the exception of artdecade's op.

I'm not a big Rat fan...I'm not a Ratt fan either.

0u8teXR8VE4



Is the answer always Rat?

I like Ratt...

But. Not The Rat...

0u8teXR8VE4



Is the answer always Rat?

I wonder if Ratt's Rat would fetch as much as a Klon...or a Mickey Mantle rookie card?

Only if it came from Out of the Cellar.

Look what the cat dragged in!



Oh, oops





(I tried)

Little known RATT trivia:
Milton Berle was actually every member of the band.

I actually have 2 rat holes on the side of my garage. Damn vermin! Pictures may or may not follow.

Rat and Ratt? This thread just became epic.

What's for dinner?
Rat.
What's your dog's name?
Rat.
Who's your Daddy?
Rat.
:lol:

What's for dinner?
Ratt.
What's your dog's name?
Ratt.
Who's your Daddy?
Ratt.
:lol:

Frank foretold us the future of pedals back in 1969...

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_rZRkMkHBXFg/SxA830dB6nI/AAAAAAAAA_E/FccF0O50k8U/s1600/cover.jpg

What effect to I use should I want to play Jazz or Western swing?

BTW, what's for breakfast?

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j269/chubbo_2006/rats.gif

What effect to I use should I want to play Jazz or Western swing?

Jazz? A Rat. Adjust gain to taste. See John Scofield, Rat user!
Western Swing? A Rat and a cowboy hat. Adjust both to taste.

BTW, what's for breakfast?
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j269/chubbo_2006/rats.gif

From the looks of it, that kid is about to be breakfast. Now, why would someone dump a perfectly good kid's arms into a vat of glue? There are easier ways to feed kids to rats.

Art, I'm curious. What are these easier ways to feed kids to rats?



(Not planning on doing it of course!)





I, uh, I'm...writing a paper on it

Art, I'm curious. What are these easier ways to feed kids to rats?

This guy is the expert...

http://www.odditycentral.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/talented-rats11.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j269/chubbo_2006/Willard_movie.jpg

Speaking of experts...
well, maybe not....

Little known RATT trivia:
Milton Berle was actually every member of the band.

Actually, it was Burl Ives.

Speaking of not stompboxes, how do you post a pic here?




In case I feel the need to post a picture of a rat, that is

There is a little icon with a mountain on the toolbar. You just put in the location of the image and the forum takes care of the formatting.

There are many platforms, but I use photobucket - free server
http://photobucket.com/

upload any photo - mouse over and copy the (IMG) image code, then paste to your favorite forum.

done

[QUOTE=mal paso;4294793]0u8teXR8VE4

I heard they took 4 days to light that dinner scene. :wink:

Also, which is better?
-The modern Rat you'd buy at a GC or wherever today, OR
-The GFS Brownie?

Speaking of not stompboxes, how do you post a pic here?


RAT.

Also...to clarify... the plot of that video, as I understand it was:
1. Milton Berle arranged to have RATT play upstairs of his dinner party, ostensibly so he could pretend to be annoyed and use the excuse of needing to leave in order to seduce a man dressed up as Angelica Huston.
2. After he leaves, guests continue to try to have dinner. A strange looking chick, trying to silently offer felatio to a valet or servant of some kind, unsuccessfully, which is strange. Then a guitar player falls through the ceiling, but due to an amazing wireless setup, he keeps soloing. His friend upstairs continues soloing, as well, magically transforming his regular Kramer 80's Floyd Rose shredder guitar, occasionally into some sort of wee 80's shredder guitar--and then back.
3. The weird chick leaves, stripping in the dark, until she becomes--a crappy modern dance version of....a...rat?
4. Weirdness continues to fade out.

Also there are no walls upstairs, only a weird, lightly distressed dropcloth, which all 80's buttrock bands had in their lockout, which in this case was on the UWS of Manhattan, above some old steel tycoon's 1st floor condo.

Okay, that makes total sense.

Also...to clarify... the plot of that video, as I understand it was:
1. Milton Berle arranged to have RATT play upstairs of his dinner party, ostensibly so he could pretend to be annoyed and use the excuse of needing to leave in order to seduce a man dressed up as Angelica Huston.
2. After he leaves, guests continue to try to have dinner. A strange looking chick, trying to silently offer felatio to a valet or servant of some kind, unsuccessfully, which is strange. Then a guitar player falls through the ceiling, but due to an amazing wireless setup, he keeps soloing. His friend upstairs continues soloing, as well, magically transforming his regular Kramer 80's Floyd Rose shredder guitar, occasionally into some sort of wee 80's shredder guitar--and then back.
3. The weird chick leaves, stripping in the dark, until she becomes--a crappy modern dance version of....a...rat?
4. Weirdness continues to fade out.

Also there are no walls upstairs, only a weird, lightly distressed dropcloth, which all 80's buttrock bands had in their lockout, which in this case was on the UWS of Manhattan, above some old steel tycoon's 1st floor condo.

Okay, that makes total sense.

Wow...really great synopsis...but I'm a bit concerned with how much time you've spent thinking about it.:lol:

I would be interested in your break down of the Tubes' "She's a Beauty" video...equally thought provoking.

Ok, so what new rat incarnation/re-issue/copy for about 100 bucks would you recommend? I wasn't happy with you dirty rat.

$100 bucks - grab a used Whiteface reissue. They can be found close to that range. Some ebay discount places are selling the new reissues for $125-150. I can't help you with the clones though...

I once had a cat
He never caught a rat
until the day
he found one in a glue tray
Just his luck
his face got stuck
in the glue
with the rat too

Please don't worry
this is a true story
because of me
the cat went free
as for the rat
it's on my pedalboard :razz:

Many apologies to Dr Suess

This is easily the best thread about rats I have ever been a part of!

Found a dead rat this morning. Head in a trap.

I found a dead Rat this morning... but it just needed a new battery!

I love Ratt (Out Of The Cellar was a killer hard rock album and Round and Round is one of my fav 80s tunes) and I like the RAT. Just got on the RAT bandwagon last week as I needed a fuzzy distortion to reproduce some tones from some records. Really prefer it with 'Buckers though it does sound good with Strat or Tele.

Here's my RAT with his friends...

http://i49.tinypic.com/2h4w19f.jpg

What's funny is a have a huge Rodent phobia (mouse, rat, anything) but I'm able to talk about the band Ratt and RAT pedals but I can NOT watch the Round and Round video without getting severe anxiety. :lol:

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Vintage (big box) Rat all the way.

All I wanted was to talk Keeley modded Rat? Been thinkin' about it and definately need a indicator light at the very least!

Are we talking about a "dirty rat,"

YtOMHH_v0Qg

or a "dirty yellow-bellied rat"...?

-0MkIPGKdAk

so if a bloke wanted rat tone with a lower noise floor, what ought he look into?

All I wanted was to talk Keeley modded Rat? Been thinkin' about it and definately need a indicator light at the very least!

I don't know how much the Keely costs, but I'd be tempted to get prebuilt BYOC Mouse http://www.axeandyoushallreceive.com/product/byoc-mouse-pre-built-pedal It has an LED and much, much more :cool:

He also has a pre-painted one for a few more sheckels :cool: :cool:

http://videokeman.com/image/pics/BonnieRaittsongPics1pbQqfFHCOzfkPM.jpg

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Rats! I have no cats!
Poison! I have no Rats!

134834

Movie rats for $400 Alex: Who is Ratso Rizzo?

Actually the answer is that there isn't always isn't an answer.

so if a bloke wanted rat tone with a lower noise floor, what ought he look into?

Earplugs...:mrgreen:

Franc Robert

Midnight Cowboy!


(Err, Midnight Cowboy's friend)

Midnight Cowboy!


(Err, Midnight Cowboy's friend)

The correct answer is "What is the Midnight Cowboy's friend?"

Actually the answer is that there isn't always isn't an answer.

If you ask a question and the answer isn't Rat, then adjust the question accordingly.

Hey Art, (or any Rat-enthusiasts),


i found a Vintage box Rat re-issue for $130. Do you guys know if they all come equipped with the special chip? Is that a good price?

Hey Art, (or any Rat-enthusiasts),


i found a Vintage box Rat re-issue for $130. Do you guys know if they all come equipped with the special chip? Is that a good price?

Is it the new '85 "Whiteface" Reissue? If so, that's a good price for a new one. Made in the USA. Plus it comes with the proper chip and the robust casing that makes sure it can survive a nuke. There shouldn't be an LED on it though.

No, it's the big box re-issue.



'91-early 2000's I think



It looks like they switched chips in 2000, or 2001, so I guess I need to find out how old it is.

Thanks buddy!

Who ate my shoes? Rat.
Who gave my license plate to the cops? Rat.
George Segal? King Rat.

http://www.theindiehotspot.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/The-Rat-Pack.gif

No, it's the big box re-issue.



'91-early 2000's I think



It looks like they switched chips in 2000, or 2001, so I guess I need to find out how old it is.

Thanks buddy!

http://webpages.charter.net/daosmun/

According to the above website (FANTASTIC RESOURCE!):

Vintage Reissue Rat
1991-2005

Key Features:
Big box enclosure like originals
White Marker dots around Controls
No "Sound Inc" vertically on Logo
Models before 2003 still use LM308 chip
2003-Present use OP07DP opamp
Battery Door on bottom

Woah!






That's Rat-tastic!

Just got this baby today:

135168

Pre-2003 USA Rat 2. Square (non-sloped) enclosure. Serial #250,XXX.

I'll give it a good work-out tonight.

I spent thousands on pedals before i found out about the Rat. :mad: :cry:

Much needed thread bump!

http://vfepedals.com/images/alpha%20dog.png


.....all that - and a lot more.

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/37669584.jpg

Nice bump artdecade. It's the most interesting pedal in the world.

I've been playing guitar for 31 years. only 3 months ago I bought a RAT2 brand new for $59, a LM308 chip $7. I've put the two things together and I have the best tone you have ever heard. if you disagree with this statement you are welcome to come over to my house, upon which you will be plied with alchohol and be subjected to countless AC/DC, Aerosmith, Sabbath, Kyuss, Maiden, Morbid Angel riffs. you'll also hear a fair smattering of my stuff.

this pedal is the king of kings and it makes people say stupid things like the above.





(seriously the best gain pedal ever)

^ so where do you buy a LM308 chip, and how is it installed?

^ so where do you buy a LM308 chip, and how is it installed?

Yes, I'm curious too! How did you do it? A rat is on my list of pedals to buy.


Regarding the VFE clone, any more input from other ppl that have used it?

^ so where do you buy a LM308 chip, and how is it installed?

I built a rat clone from an 80's layout I found online somewhere. I got my lm308 chip on eBay.

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^ so where do you buy a LM308 chip, and how is it installed?

eBay


as for installing - just open up the pedal with a screwdriver, locate the OP07DP chip. pry it off with your screwdriver, then gently but firmly replace it with the LM308 chip. the little pins are easily bent, so go slowly. I always play it safe and buy 2 of every chip just in case I ruin one (I am beyond clumsy). but trust me: If I can do it, anyone can.

I agree. In fact I just happened to purchase a Whiteface Reissue earlier today. Can't wait!


:cool:

if you disagree with this statement you are welcome to come over to my house, upon which you will be plied with alchohol and be subjected to countless AC/DC, Aerosmith, Sabbath, Kyuss, Maiden, Morbid Angel riffs. you'll also hear a fair smattering of my stuff.

\M/ Kyuss!!! \M/

I just got a Rat yesterday and used it today to jam along with some riffs on Welcome to Sky Valley. Rock!

\M/ Kyuss!!! \M/

I just got a Rat yesterday and used it today to jam along with some riffs on Welcome to Sky Valley. Rock!

Nice brother! :grin:

that's the beauty of the RAT. you can go from really light OD, bridge pickup and play along with early U2 for that Vox breaking up sound.... to hard crunch - 90's Radiohead..... then to front pickup, full on fuzz for a bit of Kyuss. there isn't a more versatile pedal to be had for under $100.

My name's Ima.
Ima Rat!:mrgreen:

I don't think you are officially a TDPRI troll without posting here... so... :mrgreen: