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Question about passive ABY switcher

jswiss
July 12th, 2012, 10:47 AM
I was wondering if anyone experiences tone suck when using a passive ABY switcher. I have a couple buffered pedals, but neither of them could be rearranged in the chain to be placed in front of whered id place an ABY switcher.

Also, Ive narrowed it down to the Radial Bigshot ABY, or the Loopmaster ABY. does anyone have a preference between those?

telefunken
July 12th, 2012, 11:19 AM
I use the old tried and true Morley ABY. I've noticed NO tone suck at all, but my tone sucks.........:mrgreen:

gwjensen
July 12th, 2012, 11:37 AM
I like the radail. 180 polarity reverse, on-board transformer to control ground buzz, and true bypass. Only around $79.

Tech21NYC
July 12th, 2012, 12:27 PM
I tried the Radial Bigshot. It's a nice box but you will probably need a buffer before it. If you use the isolation transformer it will probably load down your signal. They make the Twin City which is active. It's more expensive though. I'm not familiar with the Loopmaster. I have the Lehle Dual SGoS which is great but they are pricey.

Do you have a buffered tuner like the TU2. Any good buffered pedal will work.

It depends what you are trying to do.

jswiss
July 12th, 2012, 01:06 PM
I tried the Radial Bigshot. It's a nice box but you will probably need a buffer before it. If you use the isolation transformer it will probably load down your signal. They make the Twin City which is active. It's more expensive though. I'm not familiar with the Loopmaster. I have the Lehle Dual SGoS which is great but they are pricey.

Do you have a buffered tuner like the TU2. Any good buffered pedal will work.

It depends what you are trying to do.

Ha...well...i do have a tu-3....but iim already using it to buffer my passive volume pedal.
My chain right now is MXR Custom Comp>OCD Overdrive>TU-3>Ernie Ball Volume>DD-7>MXR Carbon Copy.
I would be using the ABY to run my signal into both of my AC15s channels at once. Im thinking i will either be normal and put it at the end of the chain, or put it towards the beginning and send all my effects through one chain and have just overdrive in the other, so that i could have a mixed clean/dirty signal.
Either way, im already using the TU-3s buffer.

JamesL
July 12th, 2012, 01:15 PM
Wife uses the Morley in her bass rig.....no tone suck ....she likes it ....

J-bass&Tele
July 12th, 2012, 05:10 PM
The buffer in your TU-3 should handle both the volume pedal and the Bigshot.

I'm no EE but as I understand it, the buffer changes the High Z signal from a passive pickup to Low Z which is better when having a lot of stuff (pedals, cables, connection jacks etc) between guitar and amp. It doesn't "run out of juice" after one passive/unbuffered pedal. AFAIK/IME of course.

Some pedals go in front of buffers though. Google "buffer signal chain". There are people who are a lot better at this (and explaining it) than I am.

Off topic: As you've read I'm getting a Bigshot and I'm playing Tele+AC15c1. Saw an ad about a good deal on a OCD v4 and was tempted. How do you like your OCD OD with the AC15c1?

jswiss
July 13th, 2012, 11:10 AM
The buffer in your TU-3 should handle both the volume pedal and the Bigshot.

I'm no EE but as I understand it, the buffer changes the High Z signal from a passive pickup to Low Z which is better when having a lot of stuff (pedals, cables, connection jacks etc) between guitar and amp. It doesn't "run out of juice" after one passive/unbuffered pedal. AFAIK/IME of course.

Some pedals go in front of buffers though. Google "buffer signal chain". There are people who are a lot better at this (and explaining it) than I am.

Off topic: As you've read I'm getting a Bigshot and I'm playing Tele+AC15c1. Saw an ad about a good deal on a OCD v4 and was tempted. How do you like your OCD OD with the AC15c1?

Thanks a lot, that was very helpful!!

As for the OCD, well, right now its kind of a love hate relationship. I was using a TS-9 Keeley Mod+, but the mid hump was just getting on my nerves, so in a moment of passion at a music store i traded it in for an OCD. it sounds really, REALLY great for mid-high gain stuff, and just alright for low gain stuff, but gets a little weak on low gain. Unfortunately though, right now, the OCD is my only dirt pedal. Im saving up for a timmy to be my light gain pedal, but right now, the OCD's all ive got, so i usually have the gain set somewhere between low-mid gain settings, which unfortunately means both the lower gain and the higher gain stuff dont sound as good as they could, ecause my dirt is kinda floating somewhere in between.

However the OCD is really touch responsive, the the low end sounds amazing. In short, if youre looking for something to cover a lot of ground for your gain, you maybe should look elsewhere. but if you already have a lighter dirt pedal, the OCD is amazing for mid-higher stuff.

As a side note too, it sounds great with all my other pedals (using it with my volume pedal and carbon copy+slide=transcendent), however i just purchased my compressor this week, and im not really liking how the comp interacts with the OCD. In case that is a big deal to you.

RockerDuck
July 13th, 2012, 02:58 PM
The best tubescreamer I've found is the BBpreamp. It goes great with the OCD.

Tech21NYC
July 17th, 2012, 10:13 AM
Since you already have the signal buffered with your TU3, the Radial Big Shot should work just fine. Question. To me the Vox AC15 should really excel at clean to medium gain tones. In your setup it would make more sense to use the amp itself to get a "real" medium gain tone and use the OCD as a boost for higher gain tones. This may not work the best with your delays though. That's always the compromise when you are using the amp for distortion.

I have a Top Hat Club Deluxe which is very much like the AC15. I use a Suhr iso line out box and send the amp's output to my delays and either another amp's efx loop or one of our Power Engines. A wet/dry rig.