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CarrierWave July 7th, 2012, 05:34 PM Hey all, I had a question about series wiring.
Does anything think there would be any difference tonally between a bridge wired in series into the neck pickup's ground, versus the neck pickup wired into the bridge pickup's ground.
In the the first example the overall output would be coming from the neck pup, in the second example it would be the bridge pup.
I can't think of why it would matter but I can't say either way so that leaves it as an open possibility.
What do you think? Thanks all!
P.S. I will look at series wirings diagrams to see if they have a preferred way when I get home.
sjtalon July 7th, 2012, 05:55 PM Normally Tele with the 4 ways are bridge>Neck, that being voltage path. So the bridge pup coil is grounded.
This came up in a tread I was involved with a while back and someone posted about there being a difference, explaining and everything. Always some electrical engineering theory hocus pocus with these electric gettars ya know.
O.K. I can agree with a difference, but like anything, what is the diff, and does it really mean a hill of beans in the end. A - B, B - A whatever :?:
That's for the guy with the solder gun to judge. Ears are the winner after all.
deadicated July 7th, 2012, 05:56 PM In the classic tele set up of one tone one vol.
I don't think it should make a difference. But I've been known to be wrong.
Teleterr July 7th, 2012, 06:13 PM Pretty big difference. I've done it. N+B you get a full frequency response, B+N you get weaker bass w the mids emphasised depending on the p/ups. Even w 2 p/ups the same its noticeable tho not as extreme. Both ways sound good so its a matter of taste. W a HB and a single Tele Bridge its hard to imagine a large majority not liking the G N B Hot better, its like the HBs sound, only more dimensional while the other way sounds blah. Phostenix site has the grounded neck wiring. I'd try both ways to hear your favorite or a 5 way for both.https://sites.google.com/site/phostenixwiringdiagrams/teles/2-pickup-teles#StandardTele4WayNG
LarsOS July 7th, 2012, 06:56 PM Does anything think there would be any difference tonally between a bridge wired in series into the neck pickup's ground, versus the neck pickup wired into the bridge pickup's ground.
I'm pretty sure there'll be no objective difference, unless there's something seriously funny going on with the circuit. (But of course, that can't be excluded either.)
In the the first example the overall output would be coming from the neck pup, in the second example it would be the bridge pup.
What is your basis for saying that? It makes no sense in the context of ... well, everything I've learned about electronics (most of it from 2 years of electronics schooling).
Unless there's something in your scenario that I'm totally missing here. There is no theoretical basis, that I'm aware of, for saying that the order of the coils connected in series will make any difference to the total output.
Maybe there is some sneaky capacitance thing going on with the shielding of the neck picup (pretty far fetched IMO), or something in that vein?
Teleterr July 7th, 2012, 07:14 PM I'm pretty sure there'll be no objective difference, unless there's something seriously funny going on with the circuit.
What is your basis for saying that? It makes no sense in the context of ... well, everything I've learned about electronics (most of it from 2 years of electronics schooling).
Unless there's something in your scenario that I'm totally missing here. There is no theoretical basis, that I'm aware of, for saying that the order of the coils connected in series will make any difference to the total output.
Unless there's some sneaky capacitance thing going on with the shielding of the neck picup (pretty far fetched IMO), or something in that vein.So your offering theory without actually having done it. Try it and you'll hear the difference. Theory wise, the grounded p/up is in series w an inductor then a resistor with a cap in parallel on its way to hot. N-B and B-N have different values for all components.Even when there seems to be no theoretical reason things should be different there still can be. If you connect the coil junctions on 2 parallel HBs, it makes no difference in any calculation of cap, inductance or resistance, but less highs get lost somehow. If its easy to do , experiments are always best since you can't overlook any factor that might be suprisingly important.
CarrierWave July 7th, 2012, 11:22 PM What is your basis for saying that? It makes no sense in the context of ... well, everything I've learned about electronics (most of it from 2 years of electronics schooling).?
My basis? I don't have one, hence my question of whether it makes a difference. I might as well experiment and see, I was curious if there was an established norm if any.
If its easy to do , experiments are always best since you can't overlook any factor that might be suprisingly important.
Yeah just changing 4 solder points with how I have it set up so I will give it a go.
Thanks for the replies all.
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