P90's for mini-humbucker route??

Does anyone make a p90 that fits a mini-hum route? I love my Epi Firebird VII, but I never play it, cause I just have no use for mini humbuckers anymore.........

The les paul deluxe from the 70's had mini-humbucker rings made from soapbar covers ,*(which were originally routered for soapbars )
as for the firebird ,I don't think they used the same ring & were usually mounted through a pickguard

A P90 is substantially larger than a mini, and much of the sound of a P90 is related to the shape of the coil. There are plenty of humbucker sized P90s that come pretty close. But about the only thing that might be sorta close, and still fit in a min route, might be a strat style single coil voiced like a p90 (usually made with steel poles.)

Have you checked out aftermarket mini-hums? There are plenty out there, from Lollar, Seymour Duncan, Dimarzio, GFS, etc that are voiced different from standard mini-hums including firebird replicas and filtertrony sorts of things.

The other option would be to open up the pickup routes to accomodate true p90s. Like Copperheadroad notes, if at a later date you wanted to convert back to mini-hums all you would need is a few LP deluxe style mounting rings.

A P90 is substantially larger than a mini, and much of the sound of a P90 is related to the shape of the coil. There are plenty of humbucker sized P90s that come pretty close. But about the only thing that might be sorta close, and still fit in a min route, might be a strat style single coil voiced like a p90 (usually made with steel poles.)

Have you checked out aftermarket mini-hums? There are plenty out there, from Lollar, Seymour Duncan, Dimarzio, GFS, etc that are voiced different from standard mini-hums including firebird replicas and filtertrony sorts of things.

The other option would be to open up the pickup routes to accomodate true p90s. Like Copperheadroad notes, if at a later date you wanted to convert back to mini-hums all you would need is a few LP deluxe style mounting rings.

If the OP specified what type of guitar this was would help
There is no routering to install p-90's in a guitar that uses these kind of rings ,the rings were made from soapbar covers in the past
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I did, it's a 1999 Epiphone Firebird VII-I guess I was wondering what would be involved in installing a standard p90 sized p'up in this guitar if no mini-hum sized units are available.

I would throw out P-90's all day long and replace them with mini-humbuckers. Much, much prefer mini humbuckers. Never liked P-90's. You could just buy a guitar with P-90's and have both....Replacing the epi mini's with better ones would probably be a big improvement. Never like Epi's either.

Well that's an opinion I don't share, and I do own other guitars with P90's, and I wish to own another----any ideas?

In the Les Pauls I have owned and it been a few.A Gibson mini humbucker and a Gibson P90 are interchangable.Only difference is where the pickup mounting screws are.Deluxes had a steel bar screwed in the pickup hole with threaded holes to except either pick up.The pick up routes are the same.Pull the cover off a P90 and check the fit on your Firebird

You may be hosed on a Firebird just looked at one and it appears to have a trimring like a standard humbucker sorry

Pull out one of the rings and see what the routs look like. It is possible you could fit something like some hot tele neck pickups, strat pickups, or something else in there. But not a P-90. On Duncan's Antiquity pages there are dimensions for each pickup they make (which includes, teles, strats, Jag and Jazzmaster, etc). Just go to each individual pickup and they give width and length dimensions. Nothing looks as narrow as a minibucker, however.

Reverse Firebirds never had any pickups in them besides minibuckers; there are so many flavors of minis out there that I am guessing there really is something that will make you happy. However, if you buy 3 designer pickups and then have to do a routing hack job, I would suggest selling off the Firebird and buying yourself a guitar with P-90's...

George

I did, it's a 1999 Epiphone Firebird VII-I guess I was wondering what would be involved in installing a standard p90 sized p'up in this guitar if no mini-hum sized units are available.
Sorry I must of dirt in my eyes ...I did not notice you posted what guitar you have
.I don't think your in luck with the p-90's
I suggest trying a better set of pups ,

Jeez-I have hacked P90 sized holes in a wide variety of guitars over the years, and own at last count 5 p90 equipped guits. I just wanted to know if if anyone made a new mini-hum sized pickup I didn't know about......I'm gettin' an itchy chisel finger....

If you have 5 P90 equipped guitars, it seems that your goal is to build the same guitar over and over again with different looks for fashion purposes. I have different guitars specifically because they are different... Route it if you want; no Korean or Chinese Epi will ever be worth much to a collector anyway.

George

Yo,my brotha.....I have a maple neck Telecaster with a Gibson pickup with AlNico V magnets in the neck position, and a tele pickup in the bridge, a 90's Gibson LP Special with a SD Antiquity (AlNico III) in the neck and a Rio Grande Bluesbucker (A5) in the bridge, an Agile AL-2500 LP Goldtop style axe with 2 ceramic mag P90's in the neck and middle, and a Greco (Maxxon) mini-hum in the bridge, an early 50's Gibson ES-150 with a neck P90, and an Epiphone LP Jr. with a SD Antiquity as the bridge p'up. I have also owned a Strat w/ a P90 bridge pickup, a 60's ES-330, a Reverend with 3 P90's, and an Eastwood Firebird copy with 2 P90's. NONE of these guitars play or sound the same (at least not in my hands)!! I have played just about every variety of electric guitar that exists on hundreds of gigs over a performance career of 25+ years. I opened for Texas guitar legend Anson Funderburgh last Saturday night, and he talked to me about the tone of my P90 equipped Tele, saying he had never heard a Tele sound that good before. So I'm not just spinning my wheels, here--I kinda have an idea that it's gonna sound good when I'm done! And OF COURSE guitars are fashion accessories---that's why they look so cool!

Well, I had a similar desire; a single coil in a mini-hum form factor. I have a custom guitar with 3 lollar mini-hums that I never bonded with (because of the pups). Since I generally prefer single coils, I was wondering the same thing. It seems a little odd with all the pickup options out there that there would not be a single coil version of a mini-hum. Btw, my pups are mounted directly to a full pickguard and I chose minis because they took up less space in a 3-pup configuration; therefore, no P90 rout. So, I hear ya twintwelve.

I stumbled on something similar to what the OP is describing a while back. Go to the Vintage Vibe Guitars website. From the homepage click on "Pickups", then on "Custom Pickups".

They're not P-90s, but they are single-coils which fit the mini-hum rout. I get the distinct impression that Pete would custom-make a P-90 for you with that exact footprint. Would it sound exactly the same as a traditional P-90? Probably not, but that'd be part of the fun. A different flavor of P-90.

I had Pete rewind a pickup for me last year, and I couldn't be more pleased. The tone is fantastic, the build quality is top-notch, his prices are affordable, and his customer service was great. He answered all my e-mails promptly, and was just a joy to work with. I have a build going which will have some of his P-90s in it. No doubt in my mind about that...

I stumbled on something similar to what the OP is describing a while back. Go to the Vintage Vibe Guitars website...

I'm shocked at how reasonable his prices are. :shock: