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justshane June 7th, 2012, 04:22 PM I have a new Marshall Class 5 which I absolutely love! Milking some really nice tones from it with my American Standard. Plus, it is much easier on the old back than a 4x10! I do however very much miss my reverb. I play almost 100% clean tone, combination of pop/jazz-type sound so I really go for warmer tones with reverb. I was wondering though if you would get a reverb pedal or an analog delay pedal to add to the Marshall? Any suggestions?
Joe M June 7th, 2012, 04:49 PM I use the Hardwire Reverb pedal by Digitech with any amp that doesn't have built-in reverb. As good of a reverb sound of any pedal I've heard, including some boutique ones that cost twice as much.
http://www.hardwirepedals.com/en/products/rv-7
spankdplank June 7th, 2012, 04:49 PM Get them both. Run them both.
guitarzan13 June 7th, 2012, 04:57 PM Get them both. Run them both.
^^^^^ This^^^^^
gadgetfreak June 7th, 2012, 05:06 PM Yeah I agree so far with above posters. you are asking about 2 completely different flavors of tone. You may get away with a tad of analog delay to make your amp not as dry but you stated you really miss your reverb.
I have used a bunch of reverb pedals and I settled on the TC electronic Hall of Fame Reverb pedal. Has about 10 different reverbs and a toneprint which means you can download an artist preset from the website. Really good pedal and with my tweed vibrolux clone it really makes it so it's not so dry, little dab will do ya. I also own there flashback delay pedal which is very nice. I have had the carbon copy analog delay as well and aquapuss analog delay. What's your budget? if you can find both used but in good shape go for both, Just my 2 cents
don71 June 7th, 2012, 05:23 PM I've been looking at the boss RV3 & RV5 lately. I've tested both but only once.
I like that they aren't to complicated. You know... not that many adjustments or options but still cover what you might be looking for and in one pedal.
Now, forgive me, I have no idea but I assume these would fall into digital side of things, if that makes a difference to you.
Tele Fan June 7th, 2012, 05:29 PM Delay and reverb are a must for me to play. If I could only do one I'd probably take reverb first and see if I could learn to double pick everything.
Captain Bb June 7th, 2012, 06:00 PM I had problems with the Boss RV5 in my signal chain and found that every pedal I put in front of it made a loud pop when I stomped on it (whether the RV5 was on or not).
I eventually sold the RV5 and got a Hall of Fame reverb - great pedal.
BiggerJohn June 7th, 2012, 06:33 PM That new Strymon Flint sounds durn good on the verb.
I'm working with the patch editor now on an old yamaha magicstomp for verb and delay. that thing will do soup to nuts, I just have to get some usable patches loaded in.
Mike H. June 7th, 2012, 07:02 PM The Boss RV-3 had both delay and reverb in one pedal. It is now discontinued, but still can be found used.
The newer RV-5 is just reverb.
Green Lantern June 7th, 2012, 07:15 PM Two different effects that are handy for different situations. So... apples and oranges. But since you asked, reverb is considerably more essential to me than delay.
DaBender June 7th, 2012, 07:57 PM The Boss FRV-1 emulates the famous "tank" and has a pretty sweet sound.
RockerDuck June 7th, 2012, 08:20 PM I use the Boss " Fender 63 reverb" pedal. It does a good job.
Guitarmadcat June 7th, 2012, 08:27 PM I always like a hint of 'verb in my amps, just to eliminate the dryness. I personally think that if you start doing the same with delay, it's going to end up sounding cliched, as if you can't be bothered changing settings for each song. In other words, I think delay is a far more noticeable effect, when all you probably really need is an airy breath that's barely noticeable as an effect.
Well, that's me, anyway!
Beachbum June 7th, 2012, 10:04 PM Both.
tazzboy June 7th, 2012, 11:21 PM Both as well.
BiggerJohn June 8th, 2012, 12:01 AM Both as well.
I agree.
An old Alesis Quadraverb 2 does quite well for me.
ludashoeless June 8th, 2012, 12:10 AM reverb
Jagg76 June 8th, 2012, 01:33 PM I personally prefer delay to reverb as it tends to get muddy. But if you're looking for an inexpensive reverb that'll get the job done I would go with Boss.
-Jagg
Gold Rush June 8th, 2012, 02:34 PM If you like Fender-style spring 'verb, you can hardly go wrong with the Boss FRV-1. What you see is what you get though, as it will only do that spring thing. I have one that goes well with my Aqua Puss delay (mild slapback setting). Reverb is something you really need to try out in person if you can.
mal paso June 8th, 2012, 02:37 PM Agree with both. If I was forced to choose, I would probably go with reverb.
adeiderich June 8th, 2012, 02:45 PM I had the same issue with every non-reverb amp I've ever owned. My experience is that you can find a "decent to good" delay pedal cheaper than you can find a good reverb pedal.
That being said, if you want to hear reverb, then get reverb.
gwjensen June 8th, 2012, 04:12 PM I prefer reverb over delay. Like a previous poster said, its a less obvious effect. I use just enough to add a little dimension to the tone and make my small amps sound bigger. It's great for taking away any "boxiness" in the tone. Love the Boss FRV-1. I also like EHX delays - a little more airy than the Boss.
Mike Eskimo June 8th, 2012, 04:21 PM Relay and Deverb but never at the same time.
Rockabilly tunes w/ reverb ? Nah...
Mid 60's gargage w/ delay ? Nope.
Need both because the song is gonna tell you what it needs and if you just go ahead use whatever you have stepped on - it's gonna sound like poop.
BluesHound June 8th, 2012, 04:39 PM I've had a Boss RV-3 for years, it's been a great pedal. You can use it for reverb or delay or both! The only drawback (from my point of view) is that if you have the reverb on you can't switch the delay on and off indepenently, this might not be an issue for you though. Obviously you'll have to find one secondhand, but it'll do it all.
wrathfuldeity June 8th, 2012, 04:50 PM both + some tremolo :lol:
AngelStrummer June 8th, 2012, 06:44 PM Get a DD-3 and let's talk about it in 20 years time
telepath June 8th, 2012, 06:58 PM Shane -
You do NOT likely need both, though both might be useful, firstly what do you want to sound like? You may only need one.
If I had to choose, I mean really had to, I'd take delay over 'verb every single time.
Personal choice I guess.
Delay can nearly do a passable verb - and obviously, delay. Long, short or slapback.
Verb can only do verb.
Verb in front of an amp is OK, but not ideal if any significant amount of drive is involved.
Delay in front of an amp, sounds wonderful, pretty much regardless.
WrapAround June 8th, 2012, 07:35 PM I like using a delay better if most of the overdrive/distortion is coming from the amp.
bluebirdrad June 8th, 2012, 08:07 PM I would take delay if I had to choose one. Agree with sentiments above: you can get a reverb effect with delay; delay is much more versatile for many different styles; you can get a cleaner effect in a live situation without it getting muddy. If you don't mind the wall wart an M5 will get you great delay and good reverb (IMHO). If I was to choose one or the other I would get the HOF reverb (I own one) or the Flashback delay (based on my experience with the HOF and other reviews on the forum). You can get a slapback effect with the HOF using the Tile setting -- very 50's sounding. I like that pedal a lot.
mad dog June 9th, 2012, 09:25 AM Reverb and delay, always together. Most often the Hermida reverb and Catalinbread Montavillian for me. Both set for subtlety, adds up to something a bit more than the sum of its parts.
MD
castpolymer June 9th, 2012, 10:35 PM ^^^^^ This^^^^^
Ditto. Lots of very cool things can be done with both on.
MichaelAa June 10th, 2012, 02:35 PM I`ve had lots of reverb pedals, but the Hermida is my favourite! But I really want to check out the new Malekko spring, AND the Strymon Flint when it comes out! Also, check out the Strymon El Capistan, my fav delay pedal so far. Another great sounding and easy-to-use delay is the carbon copy.
Mulyes June 11th, 2012, 08:20 AM I have the MXR Carbon Copy Digital Delay for my delay and you can get really diverse sounds from it. I suggest going into guitarcenter and asking about the delay pedals or test them out yourself! Otherwise, I recommend the mxr delay, they make great affordable pedals :)
justshane June 11th, 2012, 08:29 AM I found two intersting delays this weekend while I was out and about. The Carl Martin "Red Repeat" and the ToadWorks "Redux". Any experience with either of these pedals?
RockerDuck June 11th, 2012, 09:42 PM The Red Repeater doesn't do fast slapback. Sounds fine otherwise.
Piotr June 12th, 2012, 05:16 AM Both, definitely. If just one - I'd go for reverb.
eddie knuckles June 12th, 2012, 09:25 AM Both, definitely. If just one - I'd go for reverb.
^This...
jjlikesguitar June 12th, 2012, 03:21 PM Apples and oranges. I prefer (analog) delay over reverb... overdriven tones don't sound very nice with reverb IMO.
Analog delay can mimmick 'verb but not vice versa. I would say use amp reverb and delay pedal. Perfect.
Don't miss reverb at all when using a delay stompbox for ambience or slapback.
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