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should fender reissue the coranado?

stevens
June 5th, 2012, 08:09 PM
I just think that would be awesome. Either that or the marauder with the true prototype specs. Not this remake, I want the one with the 6 switches and the pickup selector!!!

SolidbdyJazzfan
June 5th, 2012, 08:18 PM
Yes, I'd really like to see the Coronado come back. I played a few back when they were new, and they were great. I can't imagine it happening, but it's a pipe dream of mine.

Telenator
June 5th, 2012, 08:29 PM
Let sleeping dogs lie. Especially those of the antigua variety!

stevens
June 5th, 2012, 08:49 PM
I've always wanted one but the cost of one is outrageous, especially to a 22 year old kid living on the road!

Mack93
June 5th, 2012, 08:52 PM
I think it would be a good candidate for Squier's Classic Vibe line. Maybe that or the Starcaster

http://www.jetenginesound.com/starcasterfront.jpg

Leep Dog
June 5th, 2012, 08:53 PM
I think it would be a good candidate for Squier's Classic Vibe line. Maybe that or the Starcaster

http://www.jetenginesound.com/starcasterfront.jpg

That's a sweet looking axe.

Bring em back!

spikypaddy
June 5th, 2012, 09:08 PM
It's just about the only model they haven't reissued! But I suspect there's a very good reason for that... I'm pretty sure I also recently read somewhere that Fender had stated that they wouldn't reissue it because it would be prohibitively expensive to do.

Mad Kiwi
June 5th, 2012, 09:21 PM
Fender had stated that they wouldn't reissue it because it would be prohibitively expensive to do.


I can't see why, Gretsch guitars (via Fender) have the series of budget hollow bodies (inc Bigsby's adding to the cost) as does Epiphone etc....

Whats so special about that guitar that makes it expensive to make?

stevens
June 5th, 2012, 09:44 PM
Beginsarcasm->It's a little known fact that the truss rods were made of diamond. <-endsarcasm

Mad Kiwi
June 6th, 2012, 12:20 AM
Ha, that's what I figured :shock: :lol:

stevens
June 6th, 2012, 12:39 AM
totally they could make that no problem, if they can make a semihollow Tele, they could do this.

B.G.
June 6th, 2012, 01:07 AM
Funny, I was just thinking the other day about how I'd love a 335-type guitar with a fender scale. I'd forgotten about these. Doesn't help me any as I can't afford one, but it's close to what I was thinking of.

jebbo
June 6th, 2012, 11:24 AM
My uncle has one of those, he also has a 60's jazz bass. They're both beat to death, but I'm sure they are great to play. The Coranado needs a little work, I'm still trying to get him to sell it to me. I could get it going again.

KC
June 6th, 2012, 11:26 AM
somewhere out in the forest, in the heart of Germany, the wildwood is growing even now . . .

J. Hayes
June 6th, 2012, 11:29 AM
an old friend of mine from my SoCal days by the name of Gene Fields when he worked for Fender. Gene is currently building the GFI Pedal Steel Guitar which is one of the finest on the market. These were supposed to be a competition instrument for the Gibson 335,345, or 355. They had a sustain block down the middle like a 335 also. The Coronado didn't have the block and most models, especially the 12 string were "neck heavy". An old ladyfriend of mine who played bass used a Coronado bass and always hooked the stap at the headstock instead of the usual strap peg for that reason.....

Gene Fields also designed a standard electric guitar for the Sierra Pedal Steel company at one point which was a nice instrument but it never got off the ground. He also designed the PS-210 Pedal Steel for Fender which was one of, if not the first "keyless" pedal steels on the market. Fender didn't give him much support and the dropped production of these......JH in Va.

63dot
June 6th, 2012, 11:30 AM
I can't see why, Gretsch guitars (via Fender) have the series of budget hollow bodies (inc Bigsby's adding to the cost) as does Epiphone etc....

Whats so special about that guitar that makes it expensive to make?

Excellent point.

We now have China with a great cost to quality ratio. The Chinese make the very successful Ibanez Artcore line with one of which I have and am happy with. Why can't Fender make a similar line, but their Coronados and Starcasters, out of China? They could make a few expensive American ones, too and relegate those to their custom shop.

What would be great is if Fender could reissue those and resist the temptation to use a set neck.

jazztele
June 6th, 2012, 11:43 AM
Funny, I was just thinking the other day about how I'd love a 335-type guitar with a fender scale. I'd forgotten about these. Doesn't help me any as I can't afford one, but it's close to what I was thinking of.

Hofner Verythin...the German Standard model...

they pop up on ebay as low as 1k. Incredible guitars.


I love the looks of the Coronado.

Scantron08
June 6th, 2012, 11:49 AM
I'd rather see the (real) Starcaster come back, too, but I'm betting it ain't gonna happen.

waparker4
June 6th, 2012, 11:55 AM
I'd bet the subject has come up at Fender, since both models are pretty popular cult classics, but just not popular enough to win the cost analysis to start making them again.

63dot
June 6th, 2012, 12:09 PM
I'd bet the subject has come up at Fender, since both models are pretty popular cult classics, but just not popular enough to win the cost analysis to start making them again.

It almost doesn't seem to matter how well Fender does a semi-hollowbody guitar like these. The company is a victim of its own success and makes by far the most popular and recognizable guitar in the world in the Stratocaster.

The tele and the two offset Fenders (Jazzmaster and Jaguar) seem to work fine but as soon as Fender veers away from the solidbody concept, they are doomed. If it were another company, like PRS or Dean or Ibanez or Schechter, then there would be more openness to other ideas.

Fender seems to be the company for the common stuff they are known for, and that countless others have copied to death, and not as a company that has any major success in designs after Leo sold the company. Even Leo couldn't replicate his Fender success with his great G&L guitars.

Fender's only option may be to buy up the other companies who are known for other designs such as the Gretsches, Jacksons, and Guilds of the world.

SamClemons
June 6th, 2012, 12:14 PM
Doesn't Fender own Guild???

dan1952
June 6th, 2012, 12:18 PM
The Coronado was not much fun to play (No sustain, noisy DeArmond pickups) originally. Why bring it back?

waparker4
June 6th, 2012, 12:19 PM
The Coronado was not much fun to play (No sustain, noisy DeArmond pickups) originally. Why bring it back?

Raise your hand if you want to see them come back because of how cool they look *me* :lol:

Scantron08
June 6th, 2012, 12:20 PM
Doesn't Fender own Guild???

Yep, and Gretsch and Jackson.

63dot
June 6th, 2012, 12:26 PM
The Coronado was not much fun to play (No sustain, noisy DeArmond pickups) originally. Why bring it back?

That's what I thought about Gretsch when I was into harder and harder rock and everybody was throwing brass bridges and DiMarzios into Les Pauls and strats. But when the '80s and retro rock hit, people started going for the jangly, less sustaining guitars with less output. Those few Coronados and Guild hollowbodies became a lower cost, poor man's vintage Gretsch 6120.

jazztele
June 6th, 2012, 12:27 PM
The Coronado was not much fun to play (No sustain, noisy DeArmond pickups) originally. Why bring it back?


People are always talking about sustain like it's a good thing....

62 Jazzmaster
June 6th, 2012, 12:35 PM
I'd rather see the (real) Starcaster come back, too, but I'm betting it ain't gonna happen.
^You know that FaceBook has wormed itself into your mind when you look for the Like (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v390/skb/misc%20stuff/random_stuff/big_thumbs_up.jpg) button when you read a post like this! :mrgreen:

I'd love to see a (real) Starcaster too, though I wouldn't mind a more conventional peghead.
That was the deal-breaker for me back when I was considering buying one.

BigDaddyLH
June 6th, 2012, 12:40 PM
Just for looks:

Starcaster > Coronado

http://www.vitamin-ha.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/525947-bigthumbnail.jpg

dan1952
June 6th, 2012, 12:40 PM
People are always talking about sustain like it's a good thing....

No sustain is good in some cases...banjos, for example, and I don't mind Rickenbackers, which don't sustain much, either. Coronados just kinda sit there and buzz,. Also, I'm a big Gretsch fan, but a Coronado feels nothing like a Gretsch, and it still has those bizarre pickups that sound like those old DeArmond soundhole pickups.
I always wanted to like Coronados, but then again, I always wanted to like barbecue pizza, too...to each his own...

DonB52
June 6th, 2012, 12:57 PM
I think it would be a good candidate for Squier's Classic Vibe line. Maybe that or the Starcaster

http://www.jetenginesound.com/starcasterfront.jpg

That is the guitar I would like to see back in production.

Matthias
June 6th, 2012, 02:28 PM
You can still pick up a mid-sixties Coronado for about £1000. Starcasters are going for 2-3 times that. They certainly seem to be more in demand.

I'd love to see an updated Starcaster with a modern hardtail bridge, a La Cabronita shaped pickguard, switch on the top horn and in sonic blue with matching headstock swoosh. :)

Shidoin
June 6th, 2012, 03:11 PM
I have a Coronado XII that, after some work, plays and sounds great. I would love a reissue 6 string to go with it. Bring it back!

ludashoeless
June 6th, 2012, 03:14 PM
yes

spikypaddy
June 6th, 2012, 07:16 PM
I can't see why, Gretsch guitars (via Fender) have the series of budget hollow bodies (inc Bigsby's adding to the cost) as does Epiphone etc....

Whats so special about that guitar that makes it expensive to make?

Lawd only knows, but I remember reading something to that effect somewhere online... 'Course... It was something on t'interwebs, so it's accuracy isn't gonna be exactly 100% guaranteed!

jkats
June 6th, 2012, 07:31 PM
No.

I owned and played a Fender Coronado II from 1969-1972. Fender should not reissue that guitar. Ever. Period.

DrumBob
June 7th, 2012, 07:03 AM
My bro-in-law has a 12 string Coronado and it's a total bow wow. I say let it lie in obscrurity.

hemingway
June 7th, 2012, 07:22 AM
I say bring back the Katana!!

Abu Twangy
June 7th, 2012, 07:36 AM
[QUOTE= The Coronado didn't have the block and most models, especially the 12 string were "neck heavy". [/QUOTE]

They were howlers at volume due to being full hollowbodies. If you think Casinos feed back easily you can guess what a Coro would be like.

I always found it strange that the Coronado's pickups were DeArmonds not Fenders. But it had a unique sound unlike any other Fender guitar.

I'm still partial to the wildwood ones.

RevMike
June 7th, 2012, 07:37 AM
My bro-in-law has a 12 string Coronado and it's a total bow wow. I say let it lie in obscrurity.

+1

Had a chance to buy one for like $75 back in 1983, when I was around 15. I passed on it. It was a dawg.

oramac7891
June 7th, 2012, 07:45 AM
To answer the op question,

No

LOSTVENTURE
June 7th, 2012, 10:48 AM
I don't think they will. I never had an interest in anything other than their solid-bodies. But I can't see how cost would be a concern. If Fender has the nerve to ask $5000 for a Tele, then there is no limit to how gullible they must think the consumer is.

SolidbdyJazzfan
June 7th, 2012, 10:52 AM
I say bring back the Katana!!

I agree. Seriously. It's weird in a neat way.

You know, I have some scrap Northern Ash (and enough purpleheart for a small body). Maybe I could do a downsized Katana with a full-scale neck. The body would have to be pretty heavy to avoid neck dive, but with dense wood . . . :grin:

63dot
June 7th, 2012, 01:17 PM
I say bring back the Katana!!

If we are going to go there, they might as well bring back the Lead I, Lead II, and Lead III.:mrgreen:

62 Jazzmaster
June 7th, 2012, 01:50 PM
If we are going to go there, they might as well bring back the Lead I, Lead II, and Lead III.:mrgreen:
and the Fender Performer (http://uniqueguitar.blogspot.ca/2010/07/fender-performer.html)! :mrgreen:

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winny pooh
June 7th, 2012, 02:08 PM
Nope, they should make more thinline Jazzmasters.... With and without buckers

63dot
June 7th, 2012, 03:26 PM
and the Fender Performer (http://uniqueguitar.blogspot.ca/2010/07/fender-performer.html)! :mrgreen:


Somebody out there was listening!

Gareth John
June 8th, 2012, 12:21 PM
No need to reissue them, they may be advertised at a grand but they're difficult to shift at that price. I had one and let it go for £800, best price I could get for an entirely original model, with case.

They have a fantastic clean sound. Well balanced and responsive like an acoustic. They look great from the front, but from the back or side they look like cheap crap.

I used to play high gain rock with mine and it sounded great, it could howl if you let it but it was so easy to control. If I didn't want a Les Paul so badly I'd have probably kept it.

Beachbum
June 8th, 2012, 02:22 PM
In the 60's the Coronado was Fenders solution for those who couldn't afford a 335 and even though it was a great guitar and I truly wish I still had it a 335 style guitar with a bolt on neck was a fairly tough sell back then and probably still would be. I think Fender just doesn't see semi hollow fans flocking to this one now anymore than they did back then. As much as I loved that guitar I have to admit that even back in the day it didn't get a whole lot of respect from the Blues and Chuck Berry players and didn't exactly break any sales records either.

My first band and my first good rig - Fender Coronado II through a Black Faced Bandmaster - 1969

http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j356/beachbum47/MISC%20PICS/FIRSTBANDWITHLARRYLEEOFTHEOZARKMOUNTAINDAREDEVILSP UERTORICO1969.jpg

SolidbdyJazzfan
June 9th, 2012, 04:30 PM
Yes, all true perhaps, but it had those really COOL, ultra-long F-holes!:grin:

Mightyaxeman
June 9th, 2012, 04:46 PM
an old friend of mine from my SoCal days by the name of Gene Fields when he worked for Fender. Gene is currently building the GFI Pedal Steel Guitar which is one of the finest on the market. These were supposed to be a competition instrument for the Gibson 335,345, or 355. They had a sustain block down the middle like a 335 also. The Coronado didn't have the block and most models, especially the 12 string were "neck heavy". An old ladyfriend of mine who played bass used a Coronado bass and always hooked the stap at the headstock instead of the usual strap peg for that reason.....

Gene Fields also designed a standard electric guitar for the Sierra Pedal Steel company at one point which was a nice instrument but it never got off the ground. He also designed the PS-210 Pedal Steel for Fender which was one of, if not the first "keyless" pedal steels on the market. Fender didn't give him much support and the dropped production of these......JH in Va.

I'm confused. You say they had a block then you say they didn't ave a block. Please clarify.

61fury
June 9th, 2012, 06:06 PM
Re: leafy looking guitar above

I don't usually like pointlessly pointy things but this has an organic quality I do like. Love to see it painted or burst in an Autumn leaf motif

idjster
June 9th, 2012, 06:45 PM
It almost doesn't seem to matter how well Fender does a semi-hollowbody guitar like these. The company is a victim of its own success and makes by far the most popular and recognizable guitar in the world in the Stratocaster.

The tele and the two offset Fenders (Jazzmaster and Jaguar) seem to work fine but as soon as Fender veers away from the solidbody concept, they are doomed. If it were another company, like PRS or Dean or Ibanez or Schechter, then there would be more openness to other ideas.

Fender seems to be the company for the common stuff they are known for, and that countless others have copied to death, and not as a company that has any major success in designs after Leo sold the company. Even Leo couldn't replicate his Fender success with his great G&L guitars.

Fender's only option may be to buy up the other companies who are known for other designs such as the Gretsches, Jacksons, and Guilds of the world.

I think this is a spot-on analysis. Unless they buy and operate a separate company to build other guitars, anything else the come out with will be dominated and destroyed by the 'caters. It almost seems like people see them with a very narrow vision and don't believe they can do anything else.

I'd love to see a re-issue Starcaster. Other companies do similar things successfully. Maybe Fender just can't break into that niche market because of their mainstream offerings?

J. Hayes
June 9th, 2012, 06:47 PM
the Starcaster had a block, the Coronado didn't.......JH in Va.

thorton077
June 9th, 2012, 07:56 PM
This page has me GASing for a hollowbody.

teleowner0196
June 9th, 2012, 08:18 PM
I like the coronado much more than the starcaster... I don't really like the idea of an offset hollowbody, at least not with f-holes