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New VM Squiers coming

BB123
June 3rd, 2012, 11:18 AM
I'm sure these were posted here before, but they're now on the Fender site.
Vintage Modified Jazzmaster, Jaguar, and Mustang.

Jazzmaster: http://www.fender.com/products/search.php?partno=0302100509
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/3913/squiervmjazzmasters2012.jpg

Jag: (no fender link yet)
http://www.tdpri.com/forum/attachments/bad-dog-cafe/123430d1334295763t-now-gc-fender-same-image-2762184995-jpg

Mustang: http://www.fender.com/products/search.php?partno=0302200540
http://media.fmicdirect.com/squier/images/products/guitars/0302200540_frt_wmd_001.jpg

Personally, i've never had any of these models, and that red or sonic blue jazzmaster is lookin' good. Might have to save up for one once they come out, if the reports are good.

tape
June 3rd, 2012, 11:35 AM
it looks to me like the tailpiece on the JMs/Jags is actually set back from the bridge the vintage-correct distance, and not too close to the bridge like on the Classic Players/Blacktops/Squier Mascis/etc., yeah?

I see that it doesn't have the lock button on the tailpiece, but considering that these will probably be selling for $300-350, I'm going to buying the hell out of one of these and replacing the tailpiece.

ScottieHotrod
June 3rd, 2012, 12:07 PM
Shame someone ruined Fender's big reveal. I'm already saving for one of these. Very sexy.

Seems like such an obvious thing to do, giving people want they want instead of weird 'vintage modified' stuff with ugly strat jack-plates. Why didn't they do this sooner!!

DrumBob
June 3rd, 2012, 01:32 PM
I'm looking forward to these. I just hope the necks aren't little skinny toothpicks, but I'm afraid they will be.

Jazzmasterfan
June 3rd, 2012, 02:57 PM
I can't wait...I want a Jag to more or less finish my collection.

Blazer
June 3rd, 2012, 04:48 PM
A white Jazzmaster with the tort pickguard WILL be in my possession as soon as I can get one.

The much maligned strat output VM Jazzmaster, of which I owned one was terrific guitar so if my experience is anything to go by, this guitar will be KILLER.

But I WILL replace the stock bridge with a tune-o-matic with roller saddles, I already bought that bridge.

RubyRae
June 3rd, 2012, 08:39 PM
So are these essentially just like the j massics squier jazzmaster???
Clearly Fender was pleased with the sales on that model.

PunkKitty
June 3rd, 2012, 09:39 PM
BB, good to see you here!

One of those red Jazzmasters will be mine.

musicmatty
June 4th, 2012, 07:53 AM
They look great..something for everyone with all those colour options :razz: I have to wonder what the specs are on those Semour Duncan Jazzmaster pickups :shock: I know that the VM Jazzmaster has..

Neck is 6.57
Bridge is 11.29 ...I wonder if this batch will feature more Vintage output pups :?:

Anyone getting one of these VMs will have a nice guitar..the necks are just right..not to skinny or phat and the Semour D. pups are super sweet in my opinion...He aurthorizes them..so don't expect him to put his name on something that isn't to his approval :cool:


Great tones from the pups
SeM1AFgJ9mg

Matthias
June 4th, 2012, 07:40 PM
They look great. I might need to trade my P90 Tele Custom for a Mustang or a Jag.

Mekhem
June 4th, 2012, 08:58 PM
So are these essentially just like the j massics squier jazzmaster???
Clearly Fender was pleased with the sales on that model.

These have a gloss neck (v satin) and a actual Jazzmaster style bridge (v AOM) and at this point the biggest difference might be the trem position vinatge (v forward). But the last bit is heresy since we haven't actually seen one yet... Popular speculation is that the picture is a photo shopped "representation" of the models....

Davo17
June 5th, 2012, 02:09 AM
Outstanding, I will be picking up a jazzie "beater" for my sonic youth style fits.

spikypaddy
June 5th, 2012, 03:46 AM
Outstanding, I will be picking up a jazzie "beater" for my sonic youth style fits.

I really want one, but I'd have to put a big, fat neck on it... Hummm...

Dwills94
June 5th, 2012, 03:28 PM
anyone else find it odd that fender is doing weird modified models such as the pawnshop series and squier is going towards more standard or vintage spec stuff? just a thought

Matthias
June 5th, 2012, 06:24 PM
MIMs are too expensive to fill the niche that Epiphone fills for Gibson-fanciers. Perhaps Fender is taking a leaf out of Gibson/Epi's (very successful) book and trying to provide good quality, cheap alternatives to their popular models.

With guitars like the MIC Modern Players, Fender seem to be trying to offer affordable guitars to people who want something with "Fender" on the headstock, and compete with all the cheap, great quality Eastern-made guitars. But if they can continue to boost the rep of Squier, then perhaps it's better for the perceived quality of the Fender brand if the company offer these lower-mid price models as high-end Squiers.

I wouldn't say that the cheap Gibsons available recently are doing that brand's luxury status any favours...

Just my two cents.

Seurdge
June 6th, 2012, 04:34 PM
Anyone know when the Jag will be available ?

bugo
June 6th, 2012, 04:57 PM
Are the Jazzmasters going to have actual Jazzmaster pickups or P90s like the J Mascis Jazzmaster has?

BB123
June 6th, 2012, 05:00 PM
For some reason the models were taken off the Fender site. Otherwise that would probably give more of the specs.

musicmatty
June 6th, 2012, 11:09 PM
Are the Jazzmasters going to have actual Jazzmaster pickups or P90s like the J Mascis Jazzmaster has?


They are Semour Duncan designed Jazzmaster pickups..very very good in my opinion :wink:

bugo
June 6th, 2012, 11:12 PM
They are Semour Duncan designed Jazzmaster pickups..very very good in my opinion :wink:

You have one?

Seurdge
June 7th, 2012, 11:48 AM
Hum, according to other site they're not out until september...

mal paso
June 7th, 2012, 05:58 PM
Man, I really do not want to wait that long!

bugo
June 7th, 2012, 06:24 PM
I'm broke for the foreseeable future, so hopefully my finances will be in better shape by the time these come out and I can grab a Jaguar and maybe a Jazzmaster.

Dwills94
June 7th, 2012, 06:32 PM
Hum, according to other site they're not out until september...

my 18th birthday is in september. was hoping for a laptop but maybe I can hold out for a an offset also :grin:


(p.s. im not actually that greedy, i'll take whatever i can get)

teleowner0196
June 7th, 2012, 06:43 PM
I'm looking forward to these. I just hope the necks aren't little skinny toothpicks, but I'm afraid they will be.

Unfortunately I'm sure they will be... Fender has apparently been assuming that's what everyone loves lately...

musicmatty
June 7th, 2012, 08:15 PM
Unfortunately I'm sure they will be... Fender has apparently been assuming that's what everyone loves lately...

Your Wrong :wink:

geckoman1220
June 7th, 2012, 10:57 PM
Man i will have to get me one of those jags, it looks sooo good, the jazzmasters are cool too. never got to play one before.

theGecko71
June 7th, 2012, 11:50 PM
Oh, damn, now I have GAS! I want want of those Jags. But I just can't have another guitar. Oh, well.

ludashoeless
June 8th, 2012, 01:38 AM
i want one

teleowner0196
June 8th, 2012, 12:59 PM
Your Wrong :wink:

?? C-shape and 42mm nut? My Marauder has the same neck and it feels smaller than my Telecaster... (and quite a few Fender/Squier releases lately have had these same specs)

But quite frankly, I hope I am wrong with these!

rbrown
June 8th, 2012, 10:53 PM
And.....now they've all been pulled from Fenders site, WTF?

geckoman1220
June 9th, 2012, 09:13 AM
And.....now they've all been pulled from Fenders site, WTF?

thats what i was thinking, i couldnt find them on the site

Seurdge
June 18th, 2012, 08:40 AM
Any updates on this?

Seurdge
June 18th, 2012, 09:00 AM
Any updates on this ?

Seurdge
June 18th, 2012, 09:04 AM
Oups sorry cell phone glitch :-)

teleowner0196
June 18th, 2012, 01:49 PM
It appears as though fender keeps changing the release date. Any more of this and I'm not even going to buy one.

theGecko71
June 18th, 2012, 03:24 PM
It appears as though fender keeps changing the release date. Any more of this and I'm not even going to buy one.

Yeah, you show 'em.

Jazzmasterfan
June 18th, 2012, 04:18 PM
Just trying to be patient and wait for what should be great value guitars...I have my eye on a jag.

Ryan0594
June 18th, 2012, 05:23 PM
Finally! I can not express exactly how happy I am right now! My dreams of owning a Jazzmaster and/or Mustang will soon materialize. They look really good for Squires too, cannot visually differentiate between them and the Fender equivalent. :')
Love the vintage-y looks and hopefully will love the feel and tone!

Any idea regarding price?

elsewhere
June 18th, 2012, 05:41 PM
Did they get officially announced or are you just as stoked as the rest of us? :)

mal paso
June 18th, 2012, 05:44 PM
I think they were officially announced, and then unofficially unannounced.




Damn you Fender! Or Squier!

Damn you somebody!

Bruxist
June 18th, 2012, 05:56 PM
Wow. Had been looking at the VM's but much prefer these. Wish there were some more colour choices. Like LPB.

If those are it, may have to go with a CAR JM.

Funny, I think i like more conservative colours on teles and strats than on the offsets.

Fire in Cairo
June 19th, 2012, 09:10 AM
On another forum, some said they're shipping in july.

mal paso
June 19th, 2012, 09:21 AM
That was the original release date.


Then they got bumped back to the fall.


Now, nobody knows.



(i like your avatar btw, one of me faves)

ScottieHotrod
June 19th, 2012, 09:28 AM
It's probably just the logistics of getting these guitars halfway around the world. Or some last minute adjustments.

I'm hoping these have the same principal as my Mustang amp - put loads of money into research and development then get them made as cheaply as possible. It means we end up with a fantastic product, almost indistinguishable from something our parents would have paid a few months wages for.

That green Jaguar is haunting my dreams.. I must have it.

Kinda glad they're not out yet.. I need time to save up anyway and if they were in the shops it would be too painful!

teleowner0196
June 19th, 2012, 01:14 PM
Yeah, you show 'em.

Haha, I know one person won't make a difference. Really for me it's about finances. Because really there are other things I can use the $700 that I set aside for that I've been avoiding since I expected these to be out sooner.

A tad frustrating, but really what is a couple more months.

CrisHendrix
June 19th, 2012, 08:57 PM
OMG yes! Sept can't come soon enough..

Hoping the jags have the same neck as the recent vm jag (no trem), perfect neck imo, very round and kinda fat

Ryan0594
June 22nd, 2012, 04:42 PM
Any more "news" on these? :)

dqami
June 25th, 2012, 11:35 AM
I was in Sam Ash yesterday and they had the Squier Jazzmaster there for $399. It was in white and looked great! I didn't try it out as it was way out of tune and I didn't have time to deal with it. Just one. So, they are coming!

superbadj
June 25th, 2012, 11:47 AM
You sure that wasn't the J. Mascis Squier version? White with a gold pickguard?

dqami
June 26th, 2012, 10:46 AM
You sure that wasn't the J. Mascis Squier version? White with a gold pickguard?

yeah, that's the one. I guess they are different?

tape
June 26th, 2012, 11:54 AM
They will be somewhat different, yes. That white/gold pickguard Squier J. Mascis Jazzmaster came out last year. The tremolo tailpiece on it is closer to the bridge than vintage Jazzmasters, for one, which is a sticking point for some JM fans (like me). I'm sure the pickups will be slightly different in some way or another, and perhaps some other differences (neck profile?)

bugo
June 26th, 2012, 03:28 PM
The J Mascis Jazzmaster has P90 pickups in it. I don't know if the VM Jazzmaster does or not.

dqami
June 27th, 2012, 12:54 PM
At my local GC, I've seen a Squier Tele w/ a Jazzmaster pu in the neck. The decal said "Jazzmaster" and not Telecaster. There was only one and it's not on the MF site so I wonder if it is one of the new VM models? Looked tempting.

tape
June 27th, 2012, 01:24 PM
The Squier J. Mascis doesn't have P90s. They don't look or sound like P90s.

http://www.fender.com/products/search.php?partno=0301060541
Bridge Pickup: Jazzmaster® Single-Coil Pickup (Bridge)
Neck Pickup: Jazzmaster® Single-Coil Pickup (Neck)

teleowner0196
June 27th, 2012, 08:58 PM
The Squier J. Mascis doesn't have P90s. They don't look or sound like P90s.

http://www.fender.com/products/search.php?partno=0301060541


Exactly

Dwills94
June 27th, 2012, 09:51 PM
noticed all of these were now up on the fender site again with all the models and colors this time. So is September still the release date on them?

elsewhere
June 28th, 2012, 04:33 AM
Can't fight off Jaguar GAS :(

tape
June 28th, 2012, 07:07 AM
man, now that the big pics are up with all the colors...

I am sooooooooo getting that CAR JM. jiminy.

Seurdge
June 28th, 2012, 08:55 AM
Hum, can't decide wich Jag color... :-)

tape
June 28th, 2012, 02:33 PM
The Surf Green Jag looks great, and the Sonic Blue looks kinda uninspiring, at least in the stock photo. Interesting that both come in sunburst, Olympic White and CAR, but the fourth color choice is different but in the same vague colorspace (pale blue/greens).

Maybe I think differently about the finish in person, but I think I'd be more tempted to get a Surf Green JM over the CAR I'm planning on than I would to choose Sonic Blue over CAR.

blah blah blah...

teleowner0196
June 28th, 2012, 06:26 PM
That sunburst jag seems decent but I must say it does not look as good as some sunbursts. The surf green one looks great. The only problem is, I'm not sure how well surf green ages

Fire in Cairo
June 28th, 2012, 11:14 PM
They're here!!!

I thought I would come post this for you guys that are/were waiting so eagerly like I was! I've yet to get to look for them but a few people here
http://www.offsetguitars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=56657&start=1080
have taken photos!

(The pics are on pages 71 to 73)

stevens
June 28th, 2012, 11:29 PM
Oh my god. I have an erection.

dqami
June 29th, 2012, 10:17 AM
At my local GC, I've seen a Squier Tele w/ a Jazzmaster pu in the neck. The decal said "Jazzmaster" and not Telecaster. There was only one and it's not on the MF site so I wonder if it is one of the new VM models? Looked tempting.

Never mind. Just saw it in the latest MF catalog.

savofenno
June 29th, 2012, 11:19 AM
The J Mascis Jazzmaster has P90 pickups in it. I don't know if the VM Jazzmaster does or not.


I am 100% sure that last years VM JM has real JM pickups, not P90s.
And JMascis pups definitely look like Jazzmaster ones, and has to me the right tone. I have not opened it`s pickups yet.
I own both, and i will buy the new, vintage more correct VM JM just coming out.
I am very satisfied with those i have.

superbadj
June 29th, 2012, 11:53 AM
I THINK the VM JM and J Mascis both have pickups more like what's in the Classic Player JM, which are constructed more like a P90 than a JM pickup. Not exactly like a P90, but closer (bar magnet, taller bobbin, etc.)

Real Jazzmaster pickups have an EXTREMELY thin bobbin, magnetized pole pieces, and a very low DC rating but plenty of output.

Jazzmasterfan
June 30th, 2012, 12:12 PM
Now they are out...I am still gasing for a Squier Jaguar...and wondering about how to get another guitar past the wife without her knowing!

musicmatty
July 1st, 2012, 04:07 PM
I THINK the VM JM and J Mascis both have pickups more like what's in the Classic Player JM, which are constructed more like a P90 than a JM pickup. Not exactly like a P90, but closer (bar magnet, taller bobbin, etc.)

Real Jazzmaster pickups have an EXTREMELY thin bobbin, magnetized pole pieces, and a very low DC rating but plenty of output.


This issue has been covered in depth before. The JMascis has P90s that were constructed to look like Jassmast pickups. The VM Jassmast has authentic Jassmast pups however, the bridge is a hot pup. :wink:

Neck is 6.57
Bridge is 11.29

Great for Surf music and so much more :lol:

SeM1AFgJ9mg

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ScottieHotrod
July 1st, 2012, 04:17 PM
£255 is obscene!!!

Uk dealer: http://www.drumshack.co.uk/category.php?search=true&cid=246&id=129&used=&bid=&price=&special=3&stext=#filter-scroll

ScottieHotrod
July 1st, 2012, 04:21 PM
I want one of those mustangs just to hack a hot humbucker into it. Cheap guitar, one pickup. Simple, destructible. Perfect!

KenH
July 1st, 2012, 05:01 PM
JM Spec sheets:

http://www.fender.com/products/search.php?partno=0302800550

http://www.fender.com/products/search.php?partno=0302100572

Funny, I was scoffed at and accused of being a troll when I mentioned a maple board.

purpletele
July 1st, 2012, 05:06 PM
JM Spec sheets:

http://www.fender.com/products/search.php?partno=0302800550

http://www.fender.com/products/search.php?partno=0302100572

Funny, I was scoffed at and accused of being a troll when I mentioned a maple board.

The first link you posted is a different model. I think musicmatty's video post may have confused the topic.

purpletele
July 1st, 2012, 05:07 PM
or fender calling it the same thing....

mal paso
July 1st, 2012, 05:09 PM
I think this is it

http://www.fender.com/products/search.php?partno=0302100509


$500 is kinda steep(to me anyway)

purpletele
July 1st, 2012, 05:15 PM
I think this is it

http://www.fender.com/products/search.php?partno=0302100509


$500 is kinda steep(to me anyway)

Yeah, I think the street is $299 though.

KenH
July 1st, 2012, 05:17 PM
I think this is it

http://www.fender.com/products/search.php?partno=0302100509


$500 is kinda steep(to me anyway)

Same thing as my second link. $500 is the list price from Fender. I think they are around $270 something.

mal paso
July 1st, 2012, 05:26 PM
Haha! Yeah, it sure is! Sorry Ken




And $270 or $299 sounds like a steal to me!


(I can't wait!)

garytelecastor
July 1st, 2012, 05:28 PM
Man, Squier is really stepping up it's game. These guitars are gorgeous and if the tone on the vid is any example they really sound nice.
To quote Wayne Campbell, "She will be mine, oh yes, she will be mine."
I am already clearing a place for one of the Olympic whites.

KenH
July 1st, 2012, 05:32 PM
I need one like a hole in the head. But they really look good. The hardtail has minimum controls but lists the same as the vibrato with all the whistles and bells.

Jeranhound
July 1st, 2012, 06:40 PM
Am I the only one who wants there to be a good looking Jaguar with either P90s or Jazzmaster pickups? Aside from the blacktop, that is. Something more in the Vintage Modified price range. I just find the Modern Player Jag to be ugly without a pickguard on it and I really want something with a shorter scale.

musicmatty
July 1st, 2012, 09:02 PM
The first link you posted is a different model. I think musicmatty's video post may have confused the topic.


Didn't mean to confuse anyone..I was just answering the post about P90s and Jassmaster pups.

With that said, the specs for the new VM Offering of the Jazzmaster, clearly shows that the pickups are identicle to those of the stripped down VM that came out over a year ago..the one that I own and demo'd in the video :wink:

Both specs show them to be 'Duncan designed' with the same spec number :shock: This simply means, that you will be getting a Hotter Bridge pup then a normal or Standard Jazzmaster guitar with it's much lower vintage output. So really, this has to be if it's to be a 'modified version'..if not..there would be virtually nothing modified about it with all it's Standard Jazzmaster controls and circuits :shock: Pickups are really a Non issue, as most players have their own preferance with pickups..but I'll tell ya..those Ducnan Designed are superb in my opinion :cool:

JDRNoPro
July 1st, 2012, 10:06 PM
I need one like a hole in the head. But they really look good. The hardtail has minimum controls but lists the same as the vibrato with all the whistles and bells.

I certainly don't need one of these new VM offsets either, but since getting my AVRI Jazzmaster, I can't help but thinking about adding a Jaguar too - but something less expensive, and perhaps with modding opportunities.

Been following a long thread about these over on the OSG (Offset Guitar forum), and one fellow just got a surf green VM Jag - looks super!!

JonathanVL
July 2nd, 2012, 01:05 PM
I'm hoping they will be available worldwide soon.. I've got a lot of extra work planned in July (meaning a little spare money :p), and i'd like to get me a Jaguar and a Mustang.

purpletele
July 3rd, 2012, 11:16 AM
Fender has the demos up now for those interested.

Jazzmaster

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Jaguar

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Mustang

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bugo
July 3rd, 2012, 11:21 AM
What is confusing to me is that there are now 2 different Vintage Modified Jaguars and Jazzmasters, and they're totally different instruments.

These are made in Indonesia? Has anybody actually played one? How is the quality compared to the J Mascis Jazzmaster?

dqami
July 3rd, 2012, 11:36 AM
Those videos are giving me major gas.

notdave
July 3rd, 2012, 11:40 AM
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purpletele
July 3rd, 2012, 12:20 PM
The clean part of the videos have way too much compressor "squash", but I think they did an OK job of showcasing the guitars for GAS purposes.

There are also videos of individuals doing demos showing up too.

I wonder if the Mustang has the vintage two notch trem post or modern three?

JonathanVL
July 3rd, 2012, 12:30 PM
I don't like the demo's at all.. average playing and overcompressed..
But some guy with a surfgreen jaguar has posted a video on youtube already.. Don't like his playing either, but at least his webcammic is giving me a better impression than the official vids..

bluescube
July 3rd, 2012, 12:45 PM
Indonesia made I bet. I wonder if the first edition VM Jazz/jag with fixed brdiges will be discontinued? I'll bet the new trem ones are $50 more than the older VM models.

bugo
July 3rd, 2012, 12:46 PM
Indonesia made I bet. I wonder if the first edition VM Jazz/jag with fixed brdiges will be discontinued? I'll bet the new trem ones are $50 more than the older VM models.

They really should have marketed these guitars as Classic Vibe models, although they're made in a different country. That would eliminate confusion with the VM Jazzmaster and Jaguar that is currently being made, and they would fit the CV series better than the VM in my opinion.

ScottieHotrod
July 3rd, 2012, 12:47 PM
Just found this..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4E-KU2njdU

tape
July 3rd, 2012, 01:45 PM
They really should have marketed these guitars as Classic Vibe models, although they're made in a different country. That would eliminate confusion with the VM Jazzmaster and Jaguar that is currently being made, and they would fit the CV series better than the VM in my opinion.

I've kind of been wondering why they're called VMs ever since the rumors started coming up, because they totally don't fit in the VM line.

Whatever they call it though, I want it, and that's that.

bugo
July 3rd, 2012, 01:53 PM
I've kind of been wondering why they're called VMs ever since the rumors started coming up, because they totally don't fit in the VM line.

Whatever they call it though, I want it, and that's that.

They're not really modified other than the location of the bridge and a few other small details, so they don't fit in the VM series. They definitely give off the "vibe" of a traditional Jaguar, Jazzmaster, and Mustang, so they would fit very well into that line.

tape
July 3rd, 2012, 01:55 PM
found this video of a dude playing one of the JMs in a store. my GAS just exploded.

Kpmu9rEtf3o

KenH
July 3rd, 2012, 02:01 PM
Having the VM Tele Special from Indonesia I am very pleased. The Duncan Designed PU's are quite nice for the price of the guitar. I won't be changing a thing except maybe an Electroset jack in the future and bone nut when I change the strings.

The hardtail JM's I've seen for sale are Indonesian. I haven't seen the vibrato for sale yet.

ScottieHotrod
July 3rd, 2012, 02:40 PM
found this video of a dude playing one of the JMs in a store. my GAS just exploded.

Kpmu9rEtf3o

"Oh look at this amazing new guitar!! Let me play the most dreary thing I know, over and over for six minutes."

YAY! Looks nice though.

Ugh, if you actually get to the end of the video without killing yourself you can hear a bunch of guys talking as if they know what they're talking about.

tape
July 3rd, 2012, 03:03 PM
I do the same thing at a store... I play the same riffs/chord changes on all the pickup settings, play with the volume/tone knobs, see what sounds are in the thing while using the repeated chords/riffs as a control. I thought it was a pretty useful video in that regard.

bugo
July 3rd, 2012, 03:06 PM
I do the same thing at a store... I play the same riffs/chord changes on all the pickup settings, play with the volume/tone knobs, see what sounds are in the thing while using the repeated chords/riffs as a control. I thought it was a pretty useful video in that regard.

I'm sure that I annoy store clerks and salesmen, but when I'm seriously considering buying a guitar I start off with an open E on the top string, then play fret 1, then fret 2, then fret 3 and so on. Then I start on the A string and do the same thing. This way I can tell if there are any dead frets.

66Satellite
July 3rd, 2012, 04:09 PM
Torn between the blue Mustang and blue Jazzmaster surf green Jaguar. I have an original Mustang and never liked the thin neck so I gave it to my daughter. Never really was sure about the 24" scale. But I always liked it otherwise and have kind of been wanting another, but not at $800 or whatever they wanted for the Classic Series. And like someone else, I don't get how these are "modified"?

Ryan0594
July 3rd, 2012, 06:22 PM
Are they for sale yet? I need answers before my brain or pants explode - one's gonna go soon. :D

telequacktastic
July 3rd, 2012, 07:55 PM
Ok, I'll get a Jazzmaster in sonic blue! It will most likely have a new neck and pickups in it in a month

bluescube
July 3rd, 2012, 08:13 PM
Up for pre-order on musicians friend for $299.99,

theGecko71
July 4th, 2012, 10:50 AM
I want it in surf green!

http://www.fender.com/products/search.php?partno=0302000500

Telegazer
July 4th, 2012, 11:07 AM
"Oh look at this amazing new guitar!! Let me play the most dreary thing I know, over and over for six minutes."

YAY! Looks nice though.

Ugh, if you actually get to the end of the video without killing yourself you can hear a bunch of guys talking as if they know what they're talking about.


Although I share a bit of your sentiment...

Come on over to www.shortscale.org/forum and share the love! He also happens to be a positive contributor to the forum who simply wanted to share what he could as soon as it could be made available, as we've been discussing this series in depth ever since the rumors first started flying.

ScottieHotrod
July 4th, 2012, 03:50 PM
I'm sure he's a nice guy and a good player, just a dull way to demo the guitar.

I've been lurking on that forum since these were first leaked. I really want the Mustang now. It's the kind of thing that Squier should have been making all along, simple and quirky. The others look great but I worry that there's a lot that could potentially go wrong with them.

Can't wait to find out how they feel. Hopefully the necks aren't too classic vibey.

ScottieHotrod
July 4th, 2012, 04:00 PM
Looks like there will also be cyclones... look very interesting!!
http://static.musiciansfriend.com/derivates/18/001/672/925/DV016_Jpg_Large_H77032.003_lake_placid_blue.jpg

I think this one has been modded
http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/1929/zimg7266.jpg

Bruxist
July 4th, 2012, 04:49 PM
Looks like there will also be cyclones... look very interesting!!

Those have been out for a while.

I just picked up one a few weeks ago and am very impressed.

ScottieHotrod
July 4th, 2012, 05:14 PM
Those have been out for a while.


Ah ok, not in the UK though. Dammit I want one. The mint guard mod reminds me of the pawn shop one I was lusting for but could never afford.

The mustang is a sonic blue. I guess that's cool too. I just hate tort so much.

Bruxist
July 4th, 2012, 07:01 PM
Ah ok, not in the UK though. Dammit I want one. The mint guard mod reminds me of the pawn shop one I was lusting for but could never afford.

The mustang is a sonic blue. I guess that's cool too. I just hate tort so much.

Ah, sorry. That Mustaclone is pretty awesome. I was looking at that one as well. I love the LPB.

rhythmjones
July 4th, 2012, 07:42 PM
That old VM Jazzmaster is now called the "Vintage Modified Jazzmaster Special," And the Jag is "Vintage Modified Jaguar HH."

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/squier-vintage-modified-jazzmaster-special-electric-guitar

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/squier-vintage-modified-jaguar-hh-electric-guitar

Blazer
July 4th, 2012, 08:54 PM
I placed an order for one of the surf green Jag's, now it's just a question of time before I'll have it.

Bruxist
July 4th, 2012, 10:13 PM
Ah ok, not in the UK though.

Musician's Friend has the black and sunburst for $155 now. Not sure what the overseas shipping would be, but almost $50 off makes it more palatable...

JonathanVL
July 5th, 2012, 02:54 AM
They're finally listed on the website from my favourite store here in Belgium, but more expensive than i thought. Priced at 340 euro's (426 USD..), hoping they are cheaper at Thomann..

purpletele
July 5th, 2012, 11:06 AM
I placed an order for one of the surf green Jag's, now it's just a question of time before I'll have it.

That's my plan. I have my heart set on a Classic Player Jazzmaster to replace my MIJ J. Mascis. Nothing against the Squiers, I just really like the CP's.

That Surf Green Jag is going to fit my Jaguar void quite nicely.

theGecko71
July 5th, 2012, 12:49 PM
I think I have a surf-green-jag hole in my heart, too.

Bruxist
July 5th, 2012, 02:15 PM
I think this one has been modded
http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/1929/zimg7266.jpg

That one is gone. Was on ebay this am, and now it has been sold.

rhythmjones
July 5th, 2012, 07:21 PM
Also:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpBmy55-tX8&feature=relmfu

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_VCyF6Q4-g&feature=relmfu

joaopazguitar
July 5th, 2012, 08:01 PM
oh Geez...!

I even dreamt with this one the past night... for real, I mean dreaming for real :shock:

http://media.fmicdirect.com/squier/images/products/guitars/0302100572_frt_wlg_001.jpg

Hoodster
July 6th, 2012, 12:05 AM
Anyone know if these Mustangs have a contoured back?

Jazzmasterfan
July 6th, 2012, 02:21 PM
Think I'm gonna give in and get a white jag & change the pickguard to white

neocaster
July 6th, 2012, 02:57 PM
I'm almost bummed that I just pulled the trigger on a used Classic Player JM (not quite bummed, just almost.) I dig that sonic blue and may have to do it anyway...

tkachuk07
July 6th, 2012, 05:31 PM
Anyone know if these Mustangs have a contoured back?

I'm pretty sure the answer is no. I saw that somewhere before.

Hoodster
July 6th, 2012, 09:59 PM
That would blow. The Duo Sonics had a contoured back.

.

promagnum
July 6th, 2012, 11:34 PM
I was at Sam Ash today and saw a couple of Squier Jazzmasters and Jaguars.

I wanted to buy the oly white Jazzmaster, but I had to save my money for other things, most notably new microphones and road case.

sigalaboon
July 7th, 2012, 06:56 PM
I bought the surf green Jag today at Sam Ash. They also had it in sunburst, along with the Jazzmaster in sunburst. Just re-strung it to 11's as it had 9's on it. Haven't had a chance to play it much yet but will take photos and give my thoughts either later tonight or tomorrow. Must go give my 2 1/2 year old a bath now as she smells kinda like a wet dog! I blame the heat/humidity here in Chicago for her stench.

Scott

teleowner0196
July 7th, 2012, 09:27 PM
I bought the surf green Jag today at Sam Ash. They also had it in sunburst, along with the Jazzmaster in sunburst. Just re-strung it to 11's as it had 9's on it. Haven't had a chance to play it much yet but will take photos and give my thoughts either later tonight or tomorrow. Must go give my 2 1/2 year old a bath now as she smells kinda like a wet dog! I blame the heat/humidity here in Chicago for her stench.

Scott

Congrats! Can't wait for the pictures.

purpletele
July 12th, 2012, 11:44 AM
I played the Jag at Spacetone yesterday. I'll have to say it was definitely nice, no matter what the brand. The neck was comfy and glossy, but not too plastick-y feeling. Frets were in good shape, nice medium jumbos. The neck was a good size C shape. Good weight, not light, but not a boat anchor. The surf green finish was pretty stunning.

I didn't plug it so I can't comment on the pups. Hardware all felt pretty solid. It really was impressive, especially at the price point ($299) It felt nicer than the CP Jazzmaster Spacetone had on the wall. There was a CP Jaguar though that was one of the nicest guitars ever ever played. The Squier just didn't hold it' s own to the CP, but that CP was a REALLY nice feeling guitar. Few mass marketing guitars would stand up to it.

mal paso
July 12th, 2012, 11:55 AM
Hey PT, did they have the sunburst in stock? Just curious as to your impression of the finish and the pickguard.


I'm planning on ordering one, but I can't make up my mind on the color!

purpletele
July 12th, 2012, 12:14 PM
Hey PT, did they have the sunburst in stock? Just curious as to your impression of the finish and the pickguard.


I'm planning on ordering one, but I can't make up my mind on the color!

No, just the Green.

spikypaddy
July 12th, 2012, 12:15 PM
Just seen the white Jaguar in my favourite shop. Very impressed with the quality. In fact, the Fender rep was there at the time and had only just brought it in - the first of their new VM stock. Well finished and played nicely. Unfortunately they didn't have a Jazzmaster - which is what I was really after.

tape
July 12th, 2012, 02:12 PM
PGS put up only the CAR JM earlier today. (The text description is of the older VM JM with the stop tail, but I called PGS and they confirmed that it is the new one.) No other colors, no Jags or Mustangs, at least right now. They're also $275 and everyone else has them for $300, and PGS ships free (in the US anyway).

since I wanted specifically the CAR JM, I got my order in. WHEE!

Ryan0594
July 12th, 2012, 06:12 PM
Anyone seen them in the UK yet?

spikypaddy
July 12th, 2012, 08:02 PM
Anyone seen them in the UK yet?

Just seen the white Jaguar in my favourite shop. Very impressed with the quality. In fact, the Fender rep was there at the time and had only just brought it in - the first of their new VM stock. Well finished and played nicely. Unfortunately they didn't have a Jazzmaster - which is what I was really after.

Yup! I was in Mansons in Exeter! I was really impressed with the Jag - unfortunately the rep had left the Jazzmaster in his car.

JDRNoPro
July 12th, 2012, 10:21 PM
Picked up a Surf green VM Jag a couple of days ago. Only criticism I have is the really wimpy and crappy stock strings, which I changed immediately - much better!

A few hours of playing have verified my initial impressions - a really nice guitar at a very inexpensive price. Love the pickups - much nicer than Classic Player Jags I've tried IMO. Overall fit and finish on mine is excellent - reminiscent of when the Classic Vibes first came out. All switches, controls, hardware, etc. seem fine too.

I think these new models are going to be very successful.......

mal paso
July 16th, 2012, 12:21 PM
C'mon people! Where are the reviews?

bluescube
July 16th, 2012, 01:55 PM
waiting for them to ship and hit the stores.......

stevens
July 16th, 2012, 02:21 PM
Only 4 more days....

Hoodster
July 16th, 2012, 02:51 PM
Lots of reports/reviews on a certain offset forum.......

mal paso
July 16th, 2012, 04:25 PM
Couldn't wait.


Pulled the trigger on the Jag today. Musicians Friend extended their Fri the 13th sale until the end of the day, if anybody is so inclined.


13% off



Oh, and thanks for the heads up, Hoodster!

Kestrel
July 16th, 2012, 08:35 PM
I should have my surf green VM Jaguar by the end of the week. Looking forward to it. :cool:

rhythmjones
July 16th, 2012, 08:43 PM
My Oly White JM will be here tomorrow!

rhythmjones
July 17th, 2012, 08:49 PM
Got my Olympic White Jazzmaster today! It is beautiful and plays and sounds great!

There was a problem though, The middle pup position didn't work. Neck and Bridge worked, but I got neck-only in the middle. Well, I needed to restring it anyway, so I popped open the hood and saw that two of the posts on the switch had been crammed together. I shoved them apart and now it works!

I'll probably have to change that switch down the road, but no biggie.

Pics later!

rhythmjones
July 17th, 2012, 10:27 PM
NGD Pics!

superbadj
July 17th, 2012, 10:28 PM
looks nice rj--congrats!

Blazer
July 18th, 2012, 07:07 AM
NICE, how does she sound?

Seeing this makes me anxious for the arrival of my Jag.

And you know what they say about people who have a Jag: they get away with anything.
7eWIrBOc3zE

mal paso
July 18th, 2012, 09:18 AM
Hey RJ, nice pics, that git's a beaut!

dog fart
July 18th, 2012, 11:03 AM
That white finish looks sharp, Congrats!

rhythmjones
July 19th, 2012, 12:53 AM
http://soundcloud.com/rhythmjones/jazzmastertest

Soundcheck of the VM Jazzmaster

musicmatty
July 19th, 2012, 09:48 AM
http://soundcloud.com/rhythmjones/jazzmastertest

Soundcheck of the VM Jazzmaster


Sounds Fantastic...not bad for an offshore made guitar and pickups :lol:

Jazzmasterfan
July 19th, 2012, 12:39 PM
I think I'm going to get a White Jag but would want to change the pickguard to white. Dies anyone know which type (Avri etc) would do the trick?

rattus77
July 19th, 2012, 12:50 PM
Picked up a 3TS Jazzmaster on tuesday loving it at the mo re strung with 10s and set it up plays like a dream. Will change the tailpiece though. Will post pics later.

mal paso
July 19th, 2012, 01:03 PM
Hey Rattus, I've got a Jag on the way. It's my 1st offset. What should I do for a set up?

rattus77
July 19th, 2012, 01:16 PM
Hey Rattus, I've got a Jag on the way. It's my 1st offset. What should I do for a set up?


I just gave the truss rod a little tweak. The saddle are barrel type so easy to intonate. Its my first off set too. Also give the fingerboard a bit of lemon oil mine was a little dry. All in all after an Hours work it played like a dream. Hope this helps.

rattus77
July 19th, 2012, 01:25 PM
sorry about quality of pics will put better ones up later.

mal paso
July 19th, 2012, 01:32 PM
Thanks Rattus, much obliged!


And that is a swell looking guitar, my friend.




I ordered the sunburst Jag

rattus77
July 19th, 2012, 01:37 PM
Your welcome. Thanks I have always liked jazzies and jags in 3TS Hope you enjoy yours when you get it.

tape
July 20th, 2012, 07:02 PM
the brown truck just brought mine! http://f.cl.ly/items/1n1b3d1a232C0G3R3E1u/ClouDrop%20Jul%2020,%202012%206:45:59%20PM.png

played it for a few minutes - I like it. there's a couple of finish imperfections but nothing serious. pickups seem pretty solid.

the color is a tilted a little bit towards the orange side of the spectrum compared to what I understand CAR to be. again, not that I mind (I love orange), and I saw a mention of this over on the offset forum so it wasn't a huge surprise.

I bought it planning to replace the bridge with a Mastery and the tailpiece with either an AVRI or Classic Player tailpiece so I can get the lock button.

going out for the evening but I should be able to do more pics later.

Dokterrock
July 20th, 2012, 07:20 PM
I think I'm going to get a White Jag but would want to change the pickguard to white. Dies anyone know which type (Avri etc) would do the trick?

AVRI guard will work, but the rhythm circuit uses a different mounting bracket, so you'll need to also get an AVRI mounting bracket for the rhythm circuit. Or use JB Weld like someone did on another forum. :)

http://www.offsetguitars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=60238

Jazzmasterfan
July 21st, 2012, 03:33 AM
AVRI guard will work, but the rhythm circuit uses a different mounting bracket, so you'll need to also get an AVRI mounting bracket for the rhythm circuit. Or use JB Weld like someone did on another forum. :)

http://www.offsetguitars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=60238

Thanks

savofenno
July 28th, 2012, 12:40 PM
I got 3TSB Jaguar in Monday and peeled banana Mustang in Wednesday from Thomann.
Jaguar is perfect in everything, i can`t even get strings pop out from the saddles just by playing, finish is excellent for my taste, some figuring does not disturb me, and the tone from it is everything and more i was waiting for!

Mustang, while if possible in even better finish needs some fixing. Intonation seems OK when checking, but open E do not sound good enough. Barre chords are okay though, and are very good sounding all the way from about G/A, even above 12th fret.
Pickups have nice tone, and single note solos sound satisfying in 4-5 choices of sounds of total 9 you can get with slide switches.

VM Jazzmaster will come home in 3 weeks, i haven`t decided if it will be red or pale blue, but all 4 colors are okay for me.

Davo17
July 28th, 2012, 05:03 PM
Wow those look great, even the tort looks good.
I got 3TSB Jaguar in Monday and peeled banana Mustang in Wednesday from Thomann.
Jaguar is perfect in everything, i can`t even get strings pop out in the saddle just by playing, finish is excellent for my taste, Some figuring does not disturb me, and the tone from it is everything and more i was waiting for!

Mustang, while if possible in even better finish needs some fixing. Intonation seems OK when checking, but open E do not sound good enough. Barre chords are okay though, and are very good sounding all the way even above 12th fret.
Pickups have nice tone, and single note solos sound satisfying in 4-5 choices of sounds of total 9 you can get with slide switches.

VM Jazzmaster will come home in 3 weeks, i haven`t decided if it will be red or pale blue, but all 4 colors are okay for me.

savofenno
July 30th, 2012, 06:20 PM
Got my Mustang sound much better with some intonation & bridge tweaking, and when i tuned it up to normal level instead of sloppy open C.
I have to shim the neck to get even lower action, but it`s great fun to play and hear now!
Played today over 3 hours of Macross 1983 anime tunes, Mustang has very good tone for single NOTE soloing too!

Jaguar has been excellent whole week now, great big tone, very easy to play and action is as low you ever wish with even & clean tones!

Loganloveguitar
July 30th, 2012, 08:33 PM
yeah im for sure getting one of the mustangs, I have never played a mustang and have always wanted one for the look and size

tape
July 30th, 2012, 08:33 PM
my Mastery bridge just arrived today and I installed it promptly in my VM JM. it's amazing.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8025/7680519728_fc604e6aee_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tape/7680519728/)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7274/7680520382_b676ec74fd_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tape/7680520382/)

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8025/7680519728_fc604e6aee_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tape/7680519728/)

rhythmjones
August 3rd, 2012, 03:48 PM
I took some better pics:

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/486462_4418809356925_2069258345_n.jpg

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/418948_4418802356750_395632121_n.jpg

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/406323_4418795996591_413249799_n.jpg

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/559202_4418826517354_1577938727_n.jpg

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/528573_4418853038017_795507782_n.jpg

Jeranhound
August 3rd, 2012, 08:34 PM
I stopped by guitar center today because I was gonna be across the street at the mall, anyway. Couldn't find any of the new VMs, or even the old VM Jazzmaster. Cheapest they had was a $750 Fender, I believe. They may have had one in back, but it was nearly time for lunch so I didn't want to stick around too long.

I also paid $10 to get a pair of strings. Never done that before. Actually, just remembered that I had, but I had forgotten because I got a free set from a coupon in the mail...


EDIT: Hah, turns out that I got a set for a 12 string, that's why it cost so much. Need to head over there sometime and get them returned. This is what happens when neither you nor the clerk are paying attention.

TNO
August 3rd, 2012, 08:56 PM
GC missed the boat on these. My local Sam Ash has them all in stock.

Davo17
August 3rd, 2012, 09:07 PM
Nice, was it a straight swap? How did it change the tone?
my Mastery bridge just arrived today and I installed it promptly in my VM JM. it's amazing.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8025/7680519728_fc604e6aee_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tape/7680519728/)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7274/7680520382_b676ec74fd_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tape/7680520382/)

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8025/7680519728_fc604e6aee_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tape/7680519728/)

mal paso
August 3rd, 2012, 09:08 PM
Everybody is missing the boat on these

tape
August 4th, 2012, 12:45 PM
I stopped by guitar center today because I was gonna be across the street at the mall, anyway. Couldn't find any of the new VMs, or even the old VM Jazzmaster.

GC missed the boat on these. My local Sam Ash has them all in stock.

I'm usually surprised if I see more than one JM/Jag at a GC. I don't think they care about offsets too much.

Nice, was it a straight swap? How did it change the tone?

Yeah, it just slid right in. All I had to do was adjust for string height and radius - the intonation didn't even need adjusting, it was already perfect. The tone is awesome. Great clarity, still sounds like a JM. Worth the expense.

tweeddeluxe
August 4th, 2012, 01:50 PM
my Mastery bridge just arrived today and I installed it promptly in my VM JM. it's amazing.

Amazing, really? How so? What does it do that the OEM one doesn't?

Jeranhound
August 4th, 2012, 05:59 PM
I'm usually surprised if I see more than one JM/Jag at a GC. I don't think they care about offsets too much.

That's the thing, they had four or five Fender JMs and half a dozen of some other brand that took the same general shape but made the upper bout more spiky. I'll just have to ask when I go there tomorrow or Monday.

Jazzmasterfan
August 9th, 2012, 04:49 PM
Had a quick play on a VM Jag today. Felt nice, loved the neck but couldn't remember what all the switches did! Didn't cure my GAS so ordered one.

Just gotta think of a good excuse for getting one! The wife won't believe it fell off the back of a truck.

mal paso
August 9th, 2012, 04:53 PM
Cool! Which color did you go for?


Oh, and for the excuse, tell her it was either this or a Fender Jag, so you actually ended up saving $500

Jazzmasterfan
August 9th, 2012, 05:05 PM
Surf green. And good excuse!

mal paso
August 9th, 2012, 05:09 PM
Looks like you owe me one!



Excellent choice btw. I ended up with the sunburst, but it was an agonizing decision process!:lol:

BradKM
August 10th, 2012, 12:29 PM
I'm torn.

One of these is in my future, but I can't decide between the Jag or the JM.

I generally love the feel of Jags, but the Jazzmaster I played yesterday was great. The Jag was in bad need of heavier strings and a set up; I couldn't get a good feel for how it might play if it was in proper shape.

mal paso
August 10th, 2012, 12:40 PM
You might have been lucky with the Jazz. From what I've read/heard, pretty much all of these need heavier strings and a setup. FWIW, I got the Jag, and I love it. Haven't even changed the strings yet! Although I need to, and I'll probably go with 11's when I do.

Loganloveguitar
August 11th, 2012, 04:56 PM
Just ordered the jaguar in 3TSB and am so pumped, was goanna get the white tele deluxe but it looked so cheap in comparison to the Jag

Starshine
August 14th, 2012, 12:55 AM
http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu328/trjones10/photo3.jpg

http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu328/trjones10/photo2.jpg

Ok, not too much eye candy in this post, but I just got to say, this VM Jazzmaster is unbelievable. When I ordered it sight unseen, I figured it would probably look good, play ok and sound mediocre, but this thing blew me away. This is seriously the most jangly guitar I've ever owned. Sounds great, despite excessive single coil hum with high gain. Hopefully a good shielding job will help with that.

My only other experience with a Jazzmaster was a Japanese model that was one of the most uninspiring guitars I've ever owned. This Squier sounds great though. A bunch of times I've been playing and heard a classic J Mascis tone that I've never been able to get with any other guitars and just smile. I'm really impressed with this guitar.

It came with the crappy .09 strings. First thing I did was put on a set of .11s and set it up. It really only needed the intonation set. Action was great with the new strings with just a couple minor adjustments. The bridge hasn't caused too many problems, apart from a tiny bit of buzzing. The neck is a nice comfortable C shape. I was worried the neck would be too thin like on some CV Teles I've tried out, but it is a decent thickness that will be familiar to anyone who's played an American Standard Strat.

All in all, this guitar is great, even better when you consider the price tag. Makes me want to save up my money for a Mustang and a Jag.

Loganloveguitar
August 14th, 2012, 10:14 PM
maybe I got a bad one..maybe standard jags are not for me but I got a squier vm Jaguar in 3TSB and it was terrible. The guitar buzzed,rattled,strings slipped off saddles and the thing would not stay in tune and through my rig it just sounds bright and brittle and does not fit my sound in any way so I'm taking it back to get a blacktop silver jaguar with the stopbar tailpiece and tune o matic bridge so no more bridge problems and some nice beefy humbuckers. It's weird cause I use teles through my set up no problem but this Jag just sounds harsh and ear piercing

Don't let my experience put you off them I'm sure there are good ones out there and the sound may be for you so check them out and for such a low price they are a steal if your into surf and what not

mal paso
August 15th, 2012, 01:00 PM
Logan, that bums me out! Hope the new Jag is more to your liking!

Loganloveguitar
August 15th, 2012, 02:02 PM
Logan, that bums me out! Hope the new Jag is more to your liking!

got the new jag and already am In love so everything worked out , don't get me wrong the new VMs are good the jaguar problems I had are the same problems my friend who got a custom shop jag had so its not a quality issue its just a guitar with too much maintenance and I'm one who likes to set up and go to gigs knowing its still in tune mostly and will not give me sound issues

Loganloveguitar
August 15th, 2012, 02:31 PM
I might actually put gibson p-94s in my blacktop jag :D

ScottieHotrod
August 17th, 2012, 01:04 PM
http://www.valvetime.net/attachments/drooling-homer-simpson1-jpg.23565/

savofenno
August 20th, 2012, 01:51 PM
I promised in early April, if 1st April announced new Vintage Modified Squiers Jazzmaster, Jaguar and Mustang are serious, i will collect them from 1st released batches. I succeeded, despite Thomann (Germany) could not keep their first announced release dates, but that`s natural, if demand is so high as with these guitars!

In conclusion, Jazzy and Jag i got are perfect from the box and mustang was easily adjusted to well playing instrument, none had any blemishes. Instead they are beauties, without any obvious feel of cheapiness. Excellent value, i can compare them with my other, some of them 10x more expensive guitars. These VM`s are serious stuff, at least for me.:cool:


Edit: Jazzmaster was last to come home in last Thursday, here is one more pic just out of the box.

Mikey3
August 20th, 2012, 04:43 PM
These are nice guitars, but I can see how they get a bad rap. I just got my VM Jazzmaster a few days ago. If someone new who does not know anything about proper setups (or even setups on a jazzmaster for that reason) would seriously hate this guitar. With 9's its buzzed like crazy. Switched to 10's still buzzed like crazy. Tried the locktite/plumbers tape on the saddles screws, bridge screws. Still buzzed. I really did not want to sink money into a mastery, or even mustang bridge, or a buzz stop. The thing that worked for me was to take off the neck and put in a shim. I just cut a shim from card stock and installed it. This worked wonders. Changed the neck angle ever so slightly and put enough pressure on the bridge to keep things tight and keep things from buzzing. After this, what a killer guitar. With discounts from major retailers can be had for 250. Its great and I love it. Its just too bad they did not come with a shim from the factory, would make these guitars much more appealing to a newbie. So if your having problems try a shim!

Ryan0594
August 20th, 2012, 04:48 PM
I'm stuck trying to decide which one to get! When they were announced, I was 100% set on getting a Jazzmaster, but now the Mustang also looks very appealing. :/

Whatever I get, I will take for a proper set-up after hearing your guys advice! :)

andrewnelles
August 20th, 2012, 09:07 PM
Picked up a sunburst Jaguar today locally, $274.99. I have no idea how they make a profit on these things.

The guitar is perfect, first time I've really liked a Squier. Typical Jag bridge issues, but stringing it up with 11's solved most of that.

My only complaint is that the master tone and volume pots have no range. The volume goes from loud to off with only a slight turn. Will some nicer CTS pots fix this up? Or do I need to explore different values?

Davo17
August 21st, 2012, 12:06 AM
Wow wonderful looking choices of each guitar. All you need is a strat and tele (the "common" fenders) and you are set.
I promised in early April, if 1st April announced new Vintage Modified Squiers Jazzmaster, Jaguar and Mustang are serious, i will collect them from 1st released batches. I succeeded, despite Thomann (Germany) could not keep their first announced release dates, but that`s natural, if demand is so high as with these guitars!

In conclusion, Jazzy and Jag i got are perfect from the box and mustang was easily adjusted to well playing instrument, none had any blemishes. Instead they are beauties, without any obvious feel of cheapiness. Excellent value, i can compare them with my other, some of them 10x more expensive guitars. These VM`s are serious stuff, at least for me.:cool:


Edit: Jazzmaster was last to come home in last Thursday, here is one more pic just out of the box.

savofenno
September 8th, 2012, 07:24 AM
I don`t understand that general talk about Jazzmaster & Jaguar bridge issues. I have played mine a lot now, no string popping or rattling at bridge at all! I still have stock Fender 7250L 0.09 strings on, good strings to me, and i don`t play only lightly, but i don`t dig mindlessly in the strings with pick, but play over them, be it full chord rhythm or single note at time soloing.
I will change to 0.11 or 0.12 flats, when stock strings are worn out, but that is for tonality reasons, i play mostly early surf with VM offsets.

In conclusion: i don`t understand that strings rattling/popping out at vintage threaded bridge mythology surrounding Fender vintage offset guitars. Not at all.

sigalaboon
September 8th, 2012, 10:00 AM
You may have that experience with your guitar but my Jaguar certainly has the rattle. You are one of the fortunate to not experience the issue and it definitely is not mythology, just play mine to hear it.

Scott

I don`t understand that general talk about Jazzmaster & Jaguar bridge issues. I have played mine a lot now, no string popping or rattling at bridge at all! I still have stock Fender 7250L 0.09 strings on, good strings to me, and i don`t play only lightly, but i don`t dig mindlessly in the strings with pick, but play over them, be it full chord rhythm or single note at time soloing.
I will change to 0.11 or 0.12 flats, when stock strings are worn out, but that is for tonality reasons, i play mostly early surf with VM offsets.

In conclusion: i don`t understand that strings rattling/popping out at vintage threaded bridge mythology surrounding Fender vintage offset guitars. Not at all.

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Seurdge
September 9th, 2012, 04:07 PM
I'm looking for a schema or a clean and simple description of what all the knobs do exactly on these models... no success with google...

Any link ? Maybe the owner manual ?

I have a sunburst jag on order. :-)

Also, I have try a surf green one yesterday and it have a very big rattle in the bridge...

Uma Floresta
September 9th, 2012, 06:08 PM
I'm looking for a schema or a clean and simple description of what all the knobs do exactly on these models... no success with google...

Any link ? Maybe the owner manual ?

I have a sunburst jag on order. :-)

Also, I have try a surf green one yesterday and it have a very big rattle in the bridge...

http://www.webrocker.de/jaguar/cms/2007/05/12/the-interactive-jaguar/

Diamond-shaped control plate: Neck pickup on/off, bridge on/off, high pass filter on/off

Upper horn plate: rhythm circuit on/off (selects neck pickup only), volume and tone for rhythm circuit.

Seurdge
September 9th, 2012, 06:57 PM
http://www.webrocker.de/jaguar/cms/2007/05/12/the-interactive-jaguar/

Diamond-shaped control plate: Neck pickup on/off, bridge on/off, high pass filter on/off

Upper horn plate: rhythm circuit on/off (selects neck pickup only), volume and tone for rhythm circuit.

WOW !! Thx a lot :-)

Kestrel
September 9th, 2012, 08:14 PM
I'm looking for a schema or a clean and simple description of what all the knobs do exactly on these models... no success with google...

Any link ? Maybe the owner manual ?

I have a sunburst jag on order. :-)

Also, I have try a surf green one yesterday and it have a very big rattle in the bridge...

The bridges tend to rattle a bit on all of them, even on the more expensive Fender AVRI models. That's why Jag/Jazz owners usually swap out the stock bridge for a Mustang bridge or a Mastery bridge. The stock bridge on both my Squier VM Jaguar and my Fender Japanese Reissue Jaguar have a bit of rattle going on, but I can only hear it unplugged. Can't hear any rattling through any of my amps. As for the strings jumping out of the saddle grooves, it was pretty bad on my Japanese Reissue Jaguar, which incidentally was a pain in the a$$ to set up, and I ended up replacing the stock bridge in favor of a Mustang bridge which simply drops in. By contrast, the Squier was easier to set up and I haven't changed out the bridge on my Squier. Curiously, I have not had any string jumping issues on the Squier VM like I did with my more expensive Fender model. To be honest the saddles seem to be cut better on the Squier than they were on my Japanese Fender Jag. The stock pickups on the Squier also sound much better. Go figure.

Anyway, the controls on the Jaguars are easy to manage once you know what they do and they all work the same on Fender and Squier models. The one on the upper bout is the rythm circuit which simply activates only the neck pickup when you flip the switch giving the guitar a much darker mellow tone. Volume and tone knobs are there to adjust as needed.

The controls on the lower bout work the lead circuit. The switch closest to the neck is the on/off switch for the neck pickup, the one in the middle is the on/off switch for the neck pickup and the third switch (closest to the bridge) is the High-Pass filter which when flipped up rolls off a bit of the low end giving the pickups a more trebly sound.

Here's my Surf Green Squier VM Jaguar. Arguably one of the best playing Squiers I have ever laid my hands on.

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p202/Apollo3000/SquierJag3.jpg

My Candy Apple Red Fender Japanese Reissue Jaguar

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p202/Apollo3000/DSCN4505.jpg

Seurdge
September 10th, 2012, 07:32 AM
So the "official" best fix for the bridge rattle is to switch for a mustang bridge ? Will the tremolo still work and all ?

savofenno
September 10th, 2012, 11:03 AM
So the "official" best fix for the bridge rattle is to switch for a mustang bridge ? Will the tremolo still work and all ?


Of course tremolo will work, Mustang has tremolo too! But you probably have to adjust saddle heights, because Mustang fretboard radius is 7,25 inches but Jazzmaster and Jaguar have 9,5 necks. This concerns Squier VM offset guitars.:cool:

I have all 3 VMs, i have not had any problems with Jazzmaster or Jaguar bridges, but i noticed yesterday, having had my banana peel Mustang 3 weeks, that Mustang bridge total height was indeed adjustable! You have to use same Allen wrench as to bridge saddles, stick it deep into round holes in the sides of Mustang bridge, it will find hexagon hole in there so you can sink the bridge to desired height.:idea:
I did this, and now my Mustang has as low action too as my other 2 new offset Vintage Modified Squiers.:cool:

BLISS!:grin:

Kestrel
September 10th, 2012, 07:04 PM
So the "official" best fix for the bridge rattle is to switch for a mustang bridge ? Will the tremolo still work and all ?

Yes, the tremolo will work perfectly. Just loosen the strings enough so you can pull out the stock Jaguar/Jazzmaster bridge and just drop in the Mustang bridge. It's a perfect fit. The thing to consider is that the individual saddles on the Mustang bridge can't be raised like the saddles on the Jag/Jazz bridge. They have a fixed radius, so once you drop in the Mustang bridge you'll have to adjust the bridge height like savofenno stated above. It's really simple to do.

For what it's worth, today I received a Mustang bridge that I ordered from Darren Rileys on Friday and I just finished installing it on my Squier VM Jaguar. Just cost me $40 bucks and change with shipping. No rattling, no string jumping, and it's perfectly stable. Stays in tune even with heavy tremolo use and still retains that Jaguar sound. You could spend the $$$ on a Mastery bridge, but the Mustang bridge is an affordable option, especially for the Squier Jags and Jazzmasters. Well worth it unless you happen to like the vintage style bridge.