need advice for twin-leads, allman-style

hi friends,
i find no "safe" way to build twin-leadlines. i guess there must be a foolproof system. just very basic stuff is needed. can you help me out? this is a part of guitarplaying, that is a white spot on my map. thanks in advance, eddie

'Safe' would be 3rds or 6ths.
Allmans use lots of Maj and Min 3rds, some 5ths, 6ths and few 7ths.
Do you know what those are in relation to the chords you're playing?
*Another way is to record the chords, then record one lead line and then experiment with finding a harmony.

I learned a lot about how those guys do/did things from learning both parts to "In Memory of Elizabeth Reed", which is a tune I've gigged off and on. There's some diminished stuff in there too. Also, in a general sense, harmonies often move in a predictable "follow the melody" diatonic sort of way, but sometimes take a less predictable/more angular approach within musical passages as to interval choices.

I have a YouTube series on playing doublestop melodies that might help. Same principles apply:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd6jG8MoGJI&lr=1&feature=results_video

Thanks so far.
So there is nothing like a "same stuff, two frets up"-thing?
Guess i gotta dive into leons wonderful course.
Eddie

Allman bros leads are more melodic than noodling... so the harmonies in the solos are like singing harmony lines.

I like to sing allman bros leads in the shower. :lol:

Allman bros leads are more melodic than noodling... so the harmonies in the solos are like singing harmony lines.

I like to sing allman bros leads in the shower. :lol:

with another guy doing the harmony?:mrgreen:

with another guy doing the harmony?:mrgreen:

http://stockfresh.com/files/l/lunamarina/m/79/939192_stock-photo-crazy-nerd-man-myopic-thinking-funny-gesture.jpg

it's all up here :smile:

it helped listening to their debut album almost every day in the car from age 0 onwards.

Thanks so far.
So there is nothing like a "same stuff, two frets up"-thing?
Guess i gotta dive into Leon's wonderful course.
Eddie

Nope.

Same stuff, a minor/major third up?

Eddie - the short course is parallel third above or sixth below, but adjust so the harmony note is a chord tone on held notes or beginning or ends of phrases. That will be a fourth above or a fifth below. And the harmony note doesn't always have to move with each note; sometimes the same harmony note for two or three notes in row will sound best. You can figure it out from there.

Hi leon, i want to thank you for the doublestop lesson. That is good stuff. You explain the situation very well. After an hour or so things are taking shape in my mind. Excellent. Eddie

Thanks, Eddie. I appreciate it.

The twin leads of ABB are different from other bands that do them, because Duane generally played the harmonies, and he didn't seem to follow any formulas. Or is that formulae...

I wasn't referring to the tribute band currently going by that name. Oh yeah, almost forgot...IMHO.

+1 on the thanks to Leon for a thorough and logical explanation in his Youtube videos.
I've been playing for a long time and his series answered some questions I've had about harmonization for a while!

Thanks, Hymie.

Another outfit that did these to great effect was the Charlie Daniels Band

Eddie, what you probably need the most is a recorder or a jam partner. You can't really experiment, learn or play harmony guitars without one or the other. My suggestion to you would be to play a favorite lick or line and record it then note by note add a harmony line to it that you think sounds right. I guess one way to work on some harmony training by yourself would be to play scales and modes in the various intervals i.e. thirds, fourths, fifths, sixths to ingrain the sounds of particular intervals in your ear. Again the internet is your friend ... Google "harmony guitar" and see what you come up with.

hi guys, i found a "cheap trick": play some kind of small melody in a proper major scale (like leon shows you). then play something in the same timing in the neighbourhood major pentatonic scale. works pretty well. you can do that with a looper.

maybe you and me should sit together sometime and work on this stuff for a few days!

^^^^^^^
jon, that would be fun!