True Bypass Looper- Do I realy need one ?

Not so much GAS, but I think I could use a TB looper. Just wondering how you use yours. I was thinking of having a switch assigned to each pedal. I don't get having multiple pedals in a loop, it defeats the purpose of the looper in my opinion. My board is like this- Boss TU-3, Dunlop GCB95, Boss DF-2, Keeley SD-1, Ibanez CS-9, Boss DD-3, MXR Carbon Copy. I plan to get my Boss CE-2 Keeley modded and repaired, then that will replace the CS-9. Would a TB looper be good for this setup ? I do have some high end loss, but is that a good reason to go all out with the looper setup ? Just want to hear your opinions on the subject.

Maybe just a buffer is all you need? I have a remote controlled loop device being delivered this week, simply so I can have a much smaller footprint in front of me. No presets, no chains, just on and off. There is always a tradeoff though, as looping things require a bunch more cables, leaving your effects on all the time, etc...

You may want to experiment and find out which specific device is sucking the high end out of your signal, and just put a single punch bypass loop on that one box - lot cheaper and little/no disruption of your already established workflow

I'm considering a TB looper for another purpose... having "channels" in my signal chain. Separating things like chorus or phaser which i personally don't use with OD from the OD pedals, having 1 button to enable two stacked ODs. Having the signal going through fewer pedals at any time is an added benefit.

Other uses for TB looper: bypassing the wah pedal, and minimizing tap-dancing.

I don't think you need to bypass every single pedal. With a 25 foot cable into your TB pedal board, and another 25 foot cable to the amp, you might want a buffer anyway.

Figure out which of your pedals are already TB or have good bypass buffers... If one has a good buffer it might be a benefit to not bypass it, because it helps the signal pass through so many other pedals and feet of cable.

its nice to have but since i'm not playing out much, I don't need one.

The CC and the SD-1 have good bypass. How would I work that though ? If I have the tuner, wah, distortion, chorus, and the digital delay in the looper, how do I have the SD-1 and the CC out of it ? They aren't right next to each other in the chain, the SD-1 is in the middle and the CC is last. Could I put the SD-1 before the looper and the CC after ?

I kinda dont get all the fuss about 'high end loss' and 'tone suck'. Unless the trebel and presence are already maxed out on your amp cant you just dial a little extra shimmer/trebel at the source? Or maybe just change the trebel cap on your guitar to let a tad more high end through?
A bit of trebel attenuation actually benefits my bright amp/guitar, but I really dont hear a drastic difference so I'm sure nobody else can.

To me, a TBP Looper takes up a big chunk of real estate that could be put to better use by something that actually does something when you step on it!

If you have noticeable high end loss, it's likely the wah. Mod it to TB and the problem will be solved.

FWIW - the CC is TB, the Boss/Ibanez are buffered and the wah is (most likely) a tone-sucker.

Another thing that people don't realize: everybody says that TB loopers eliminate unnecessary lengths of cable from your signal chain... Which is true, if you only have less than half of the loops selected. If they are ALL open though, your signal is effectively now going through TWICE as many patch cables as a non looper'ed board!

You really should try TB your wah pedal. I have the same exact model and couldn't put it first because of the tone sucking. A dpdt\3pdt switch is dirty cheap, something like 3$. You can watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgSdmngEOQU&feature=related
Helped me to with mine. As for the looper, I'll use one to switch between my pedals and my guitar going directly to the amp. Good Luck!

Another thing that people don't realize: everybody says that TB loopers eliminate unnecessary lengths of cable from your signal chain... Which is true, if you only have less than half of the loops selected. If they are ALL open though, your signal is effectively now going through TWICE as many patch cables as a non looper'ed board!

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I made a single loop bypass for my pedal board. It goes before all my pedals to give me the option of straight through the amp or via all my fx. It was easy as hell to make. 4 sockets, a dpdt switch and a box. I dont require an LED as I only play at home so a quick strum lets me know if it is bypassed or not.

My pedal board goes:

Bypass - Boss Tu2 - MXR Dynacomp - Hellbabe Wah- MXR 80s Distortion+ - Shin-ei Fuzz clone - Ibanez FZ7 -EHX Small Clone - Yamaha DD20 - (Bypass) - amp.

It means when I need cleans, I can leave my pedals on, without the hiss from the Distortion Pedals or Dynacomp. Also I don't have to do the "Pedal-Off Dance."

It really IS a pedal that makes it sound like Guitar straight into Amp. . . (see other thread)

You can make one yourself. Extremely easy and dirty cheap! All you'll need is 4 1/4 Mono Jacks, 1 DPDT switch, and a box.
See here:http://www.beavisaudio.com/techpages/PedalHacker/index.htm

Another thing that people don't realize: everybody says that TB loopers eliminate unnecessary lengths of cable from your signal chain... Which is true, if you only have less than half of the loops selected. If they are ALL open though, your signal is effectively now going through TWICE as many patch cables as a non looper'ed board!

^^Yup.

It's not just the cables, because what can go 'wrong' with a piece of wire - it's the number of mechanical contacts that are added, any of which can cause noise/intermittent problems. The number of switch contacts is doubled AND the the number of jack connections is also doubled. You've just doubled the number of potential points of failure. Maybe not a big deal with a 2x looper, but what about the 4x, 6x and 8x?