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Somebody please help me with this! Harmony H-44 Hershey Bar pickup question

DarkHorseRyder
May 7th, 2012, 08:42 PM
Just got this 50's Hershey Bar pickup from an old Harmony H-44 Stratotone.

Everything I've read tells me that this pickup should be measuring around 3.4 - 3.7. I thought it was ohms. Maybe that is where I am going wrong.

As you can see in both pictures (one measuring through the output jack and the other from the leads off the pickup itself), it is measuring 63.2 ohms.

I measured my Lollar Firebird neck pickup with the same multimeter on the same setting only minutes previous to this and got the expected 7.2 ohm reading.

Then measured the neck and bridge pickups in my '67 Melody Maker SG using the same contraption I measure through the jack of the Hershey and got 3.4 for the neck and 6.7 for the bridge, which looks to be right.

Why is the Hershey measuring so high?
Just out of curiosity, I taped it under the strings of the Melody Maker and used its jack with a cable to my amp. It works.
Is there something I am doing wrong? I have my multimeter set to 200k and to read ohms. (the settings offered in the ohms section are 200, 2k, 200k, and 20m)

Please lend me a hand, help me understand. Thanks!!!
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x68/patchesprescott/Hershey1.jpg
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x68/patchesprescott/Hershey2.jpg

caferacer
May 7th, 2012, 08:46 PM
measure the ohms directly from the pickup, not from the leads

PinewoodRo
May 7th, 2012, 08:52 PM
And not connected to the pots.

eMGee
May 7th, 2012, 09:00 PM
Just to be precise, you're reading is actually 63.2K, 7.2K on the Firebird PU, etc...

DarkHorseRyder
May 7th, 2012, 09:07 PM
measure the ohms directly from the pickup, not from the leads

I cut the pickup off and cannot get a reading at all from the wire off the pickup, like i easily could from the Lollar pickup.

DarkHorseRyder
May 7th, 2012, 09:09 PM
Just to be precise, you're reading is actually 63.2K, 7.2K on the Firebird PU, etc...

No - the 63.2 is the measurement from the Hersey (both pics are the hershey - I did not include the Lollar pic). The reading from the loller was actually 7.2

caferacer
May 7th, 2012, 09:10 PM
you have a bad connection then
it was causing a high reading until it failed completely
find the short and you will fix the problem

DarkHorseRyder
May 7th, 2012, 09:15 PM
you have a bad connection then
it was causing a high reading until it failed completely
find the short and you will fix the problem

I removed the pickup from everything. How could I have a short? The meter works fine on my other pickups.

Is the pickup just too weak to show up on the meter?

Please advise.

caferacer
May 7th, 2012, 09:18 PM
a break where the lead attaches to the winding
it is a common failure and reason pickups stop working

DarkHorseRyder
May 7th, 2012, 09:26 PM
a break where the lead attaches to the winding
it is a common failure and reason pickups stop working

But how could the pickup have worked if this is true?

Teleterr
May 8th, 2012, 12:04 PM
Electromagnetic field coupling.A pickup still works if theres a break within the coil.

garymaddox
May 8th, 2012, 12:25 PM
Electromagnetic field coupling.A pickup still works if theres a break within the coil.

It just gets very weak. I have seen several strats get dropped faced down and break one or more pickup. They can still have a signal but it is very weak compared to a working, unbroken pickup.

Teleterr
May 8th, 2012, 12:33 PM
Right. Theres a "Nancy" p/up thread where Roy Buchanan had a broken p/up that he liked the sound of so he never replaced it.My 2 DeArmonds both opened on my Silvertone and they had a cool tone,sort of spacey and lively, but I missed the bass they then lacked, so I replaced them.

caferacer
May 8th, 2012, 09:48 PM
But how could the pickup have worked if this is true?

it is possible that you have an intermittent short
or a bad weak connection that is 90% but not 100% bad

ever have a flashlight that worked sometimes and not others, or one that had a very very dim bulb,

another way to thing about electricity is to compare the electrons running through the wire, to water running through a hose, a bad connection is like a kink in the hose