May 4th, 2012, 12:13 PM
Yay or Nay? I've heard one that sounded great. I'm just wondering what various people's experience or thoughts are on the subject. Is it worth lugging around that big of a cabinet for the sound? I have no problems hauling around big cabinets myself, and usually it would be with band mates anyway. Hey, if your drummer and bass player can't help you carry a big cabinet they need to give their head a shake! 8x10 firdge... hahaha.
But yeah, I'm considering making some amps up with detuned cabinets and am trying to feel out if people actually want this thing, or if a little tiny cabinet is wanted more for the portability, even if it doesn't sound as good.
May 4th, 2012, 01:19 PM
I am also intriqued by the idea, if you try it please post back about your experience.
May 4th, 2012, 10:55 PM
Way back in '69 I built a pair of Fender styled, Electro-Voice designed TB-1 cabinets for my lead guitar gigging. They were designed to be used with the SRO 15" 100 watt speakers (sucked royally for guitar), and had a defect in the port design that when the bassist played the first note both speakers blew out. The port splitter board was too short allowing the the back voicing off the rear of cones to cross-over to the other speaker and blow them out. I did not have the same result with my 2 cabinets, they just sounded horrible. A few years later I cut them apart, and deleted the bass reflex port entirely, and installed single JBL 12" reconed speakers (K120's, I believe). With a sealed box they had good sound but no volume. I decided to use a door lockset core drill in the the upper corner of the baffle (s) now 2 layers thick (15" diameter & 12 diameter) and slid a 2" diameter cardboard tube into the new port and played with it until I got the volume I was looking for. Holy Crap, they were very loud. 125 watt hot rodded Vibroverb / Twin Reverb could sound as loud as a Marshall stack, with only 2 12" JBL's. Big boxes are a hassle to haul around, but look cool on stage, and can produce great tones if configured correctly.
May 5th, 2012, 12:27 AM
well if I were to do it I would start out with the Kevin O'Connor design. The book is in the mail. It would probably be lighter than a 2x12 combo though right? A 1x12 big detuned cabinet? I could build a head and cabinet combo and the weight wouldn't be too bad is what I'm hoping. They do look very cool on stage, that is for sure.
May 5th, 2012, 06:14 AM
The whole "detuned" thing is not well defined. The most that can seems to be agreed on is in its basic from it is a sealed 2x? cab with one of the speakers removed. That is not enough information to say how a "detuned" cab will sound, or really even predict basic trends due to the loading. The possibility is it could be great, or it could be meh. If you are not prepared to do your own R&D, then start with a known plan. KOC is no dummy, so starting with his design is a very good idea.
May 5th, 2012, 09:23 AM
I guess that is why I was asking here. As much searching as i've done most people aeem to have simply taken hallfbthe speakers out of their cabs. I knew there was more to do with the design them that, so I thought I would ask. I will report back when I know. Perhaps I should build two cabs at the same time to compare. One of KOC's detuned, and another normal cab with a partially removable back panel to compare.