May 4th, 2012, 09:46 AM
Hi to all, after years and years of looking at this great forum, I finally have to register to ask a specific question that I haven't found any answer for...
So I have a 07' highway one telecaster that I modded to telecaster plus few years ago so Lace Sensor Blue in Neck and Dually RED RED Lace Sensor in bridge...
I really love the blue in neck, but this red red... well to make the long story short, I miss my TWANG soooooo much !
As this is my main and only axe I want it still to be a bit versatile. So I was planning to install a OV bridge with the lace blue neck using a 5way scheme :
2-neck & bridge in series
3-neck & bridge in parallel
4-neck & bridge series/out of phase
Will that work to combine a vintage style pickup with a Lace one ?
Is the OV an appropriate choice ? I've been reading things about RWRP configurations for the humcancelling... is it correct ? Any advice will be appreciated.
Thank you very much !
May 4th, 2012, 09:55 AM
Yes, with one pickup RW/RP to the other, you will have humcancel in positon 2 and 3 there.
You will need to get a Super Switch to do what you want.
May 4th, 2012, 10:55 AM
Wow! Thanks for the fast answer sjtalon !
But are we sure that the lace is really reverse wounded to the OV ? I read on this forum that OV bridge & OV neck aren't RWRP witch is not the case of the nocasters or the texas specials that are RWRP (if I got that right).
Can you confirm or is there a way to make sure that the lace neck + ov bridge will be RWRP ?
Just to know if I have to consider a nocaster or texas special bridge pickup instead...
May 4th, 2012, 11:06 AM
There is no standard. So it's hard to say when using one brand with another. As you pointed out, some Fender sets are made that way, some aren't. Same with other manufacturers.
A OV bridge is a NORTH top magnet polarization, so maybe you can find out what the Lace is.
As far as the wound part, that doesn't matter as actually the term should be connected, or how one is connected as far as the coil wires. There may be some MINOR mod work you can do to the OV or the Lace so you could REVERSE the leads on one if you have an out of phase issue.
May 4th, 2012, 11:06 AM
Since the Lace is designed to not have hum, the hum canceling effect probably will be lessened I would think, since it won't add its share, out of phase. Theres another thread where its said that Lace and normal p/ups don't work together and I tend to agree. Often one has to optimize for either a p/up by it self in each position, or both together. Lace and normal do sound better in series than parallel IMO. The Lace and OV in series will sound VERY different depending which is grounded (I've done it w a Blue and a similar Tele bridge), so try them both ways, you may want N+B and B+N, instead of out of phase.
May 4th, 2012, 01:21 PM
Thank you both for your answer, that was something I was afraid of, that you're pointing Teleterr :
Lace and normal p/ups don't work together
would it be because of the resistance of the pickups ?
The lace blue is around 12.8k (the dually redred hits the 30.5k) while a vintage bridge like the OV or Nocaster is more around 7.9k...
would it mix better with a hotter bridge pickup ? Texas Special or Broadcaster or even the Hot Vintage I used to have on my tele before the mod (but I gave it away since so I can't test)
May 5th, 2012, 12:54 PM
I have a MIM Strat that had the ceramic pickups. I puchased a Fezzter Maverick (a Broadcaster voiced Strat bridge pickup,standard singlecoil construction) and had a couple of old Fender Lace Sensors laying around. These only have two leads (orange and white) and thought, "What the Hell, I'll try 'em".
Put the LS Blue in the neck, the LS Silver in the middle and the Maverick in the bridge. No phasing problems and with some adjustment, fairly well balanced. Sometimes I'm not sure if resistance numbers are an acurate way to gauge sonic output. Granted the Sensors are not a typical singlecoil sound, but I'm not unhappy.
They may get changed out down the line, but for now they'll stay. Good Strat quack in positions 2 & 4 and the Blue has a more humbucking flavor, a little thicker that a normal singlecoil Strat neck.
Won't hurt to give it a try. Good luck!