May 2nd, 2012, 11:04 PM
Alright im wondering about relicing my guitar. it has a black poly finish as of now with a lot of dents and scratches. i was wondering if it would be possible to spray a nitro finish over that so it would fade more and maybe even show to the black at some points. has anybody ever done something like this. im interested to see what that would look like.
May 2nd, 2012, 11:09 PM
I did something like that with a strat once. I painted it white over the original black. When the paint started wearing through, it looked like a cow haha.
Idk about the poly/nitro comparability, but Krylon spray paints will go over poly pretty well.
May 2nd, 2012, 11:11 PM
I'm not sure, but nitro may just peel right off like a big sticker. I once painted a guitar with poly and thought I'd put lacquer on top for a shiny top coat. It was looking really nice, but suddenly it started bubbling up and I literally peeled it off like a bumper sticker because they were incompatible. If I were you, I'd just spray some thin coats of spray paint on it and let that wear through.
It sounds like you're trying to do something like the Joe Strummer signature tele.
May 2nd, 2012, 11:15 PM
Yeah that looks kinda close to what im talking about. except with different colors.
May 3rd, 2012, 12:40 PM
You can do what you're talking about. I recently painted a guitar that had been badly (I mean BADLY) relic'd. So much so that bondo was needed. Anyways, I bondo'd up what needed to be, grain filled where the swaths of wood were exposed and then used a sanding sealer, then a white BIN shelac primer, then black lacquer, finally clear lacquer. This is the 2nd guitar that I've painted over the poly that remained, partly because of one other guitar that I had no choice but to strip because of a wood crack, which was far more difficult to level out, fill and get a good smooth paint job on.
If you plan this whole thing for a deliberate relic, I would recommend that you do what I did on that crack fix project. Strip to bare wood. Grain fill, seal and prime with a clear shelac. Then spray your color. If you want the refinished in the 60's kinda look, spray the first color and sand areas of normal wear to the clear so you see the wood with very fine sandpaper. I'd start with like 320 and go up from there. Then put on a coat of white BIN primer and spray your new color. You can then relic the top coat and have some going to primer, some wearing to the first color and some wearing to the wood.
Some day I'm going to do exactly that....but whenever I go to repaint a body, I feel obliged to "fix" the body.....and relic'ing doesn't fit that definition for me at all.
Bubbling up will occur with you respray with something incompatible with lacquer thinner.....like enamel. Yes, you'll get immediate bubble up when you start spraying lacquer on it. Although....you can use lacquer thinner mixed with enamel to make it dry faster. I used that trick when I worked at a body shop, making them a sign. (it was their trick)
May 3rd, 2012, 01:08 PM
It works fine, Fender's been doing that for years.