April 26th, 2012, 02:09 PM
Hi amp central. A buddy at work has a blackface 66 super reverb he is looking to restore. It has a cheap 15 inch speaker in there now. I figure for new speakers, tubes, cap job, and a replacement speaker baffle it would run him $500-$600 if he did some work himself.
My question is what do you think a fair price would be for it when hes done? Essentially its an original with replacement speakers. The tolex looks average for an amp that age and the face plate looks almost new. Everything else besides the speakers caps and tubes would be original.
April 26th, 2012, 02:17 PM
I had a chance to get one a couple of years ago. Great shape, all original parts (except tubes) for $850. I probably should have jumpd on it, but I don't know if the vintage amps have appreciated anything like the guitars did.
April 26th, 2012, 02:26 PM
The non-original baffleboard and speakers hurt the amp's value in a big way, ime. Also, the mod to the 15" sends up a red flag for me. The SR wants to see a 2 ohm load. IT will tolerate a 4 ohm load. IF that speaker is an 8 ohm speaker, imho, that OT is suspect because there isa real possibilityt hat it has undergone stress. The results of that stress may show up in some unforeseen ways at unforeseeable times. Check that speaker out with a multimeter to see what resistance it reads. I am thinking that it will be an 8 ohm speaker, which will usually read 6.3-6.8 ohms on a meter. IF it is an 8 ohm speaker and the amp were offered to me, I am backing up looking for a really low price becasue I wouldn't put a lot into what might very well be an over-stressed OT. Also, without knowing the date codes from the tube chart and the major components and even the pots inside, I have no idea what I think of the value of the amp. IF the trannies codes don't match and/or the potcodes don't match, then it is a player amp that might not have a lot of value as it sits right now. Ex; I have a cosmetically near mint '67 TR here with matching date codes on all trannies and tube chart and speakers. However, the circuti board is populated with non-oringal components and all of the pots except the bias pot are non-original. Resut: the amp can't be a top-dollar amp....nowhere near that. ANd...you have to look inside to know it!!!!
What would I offer for the SR you are talking about here...in its present condition??? I would have ato take it apart to have any clue as to what I think it is worth....but the speaker gives me good cause for caution.
April 26th, 2012, 04:25 PM
I'm looking at one over here. Dude wants $1800, yeah right! First of all someone spray painted some lettering on it when it was on the road. Turn it around, all four speakers have been replaced with reissue Jensens. There's at least one "WTF?" hole drilled in the back panel. Haven't looked inside but I'd bet on more surprises in there. Big clue: Present owner says "It's an 80 watt amp." which tells me he actually knows nothing about it.
Sooo we start with the $1800 price which I consider to be about retail. Retail for a 100% gone over (by me!) nice original Super Reverb might be higher but then we get into the asking price / selling price thing. It depends who is out there with the cash to buy a nice amp. Any little thing knocks the value down.
Non-original baffle and speaker or speakers means I have to go through the tortues of the damned to round up a decent set of original speakers and baffle. I might have to buy a hacked / modded amp that by some miracle has the original speakers and baffle. I'll still have to wait for the stars to align and I'm still buyin' two amps to make one good one.
I could round up my favorite set of mixed alnico and ceramic Eminence speakers. Make a baffle. Take a deep breath and suppress my annoyance at "repro" grille cloth that isn't a repro of anything.
Add up what I paid for the amp (less than $1800!!) and what I put into it, betcha I'm over $1500 and I'm not makin' a dime on it. Add in the cost to re-seed my lawn (after a thousand "tire kickers" beat a path to my door to offer me a grand for it) and I'm at a net loss.
It will probably be a cool "player" amp but don't expect to retire on it.
April 26th, 2012, 07:25 PM
400 is probably what I would go on the amp as you describe it. Maybe 500. I would look for one in better condition.