Pickguard ID Please

I think thisPG would work for my tele thinline conversion project though i would have to bob the upper horn shape to fit. Can anyone ID it? Thanks & take care. Bobhttp://northland.smugmug.com/Music/Bass/i-n5C5w66/1/XL/a20S2571-1-XL.jpg
Another example. I`m sure Tim Armstromg knows this one.

http://northland.smugmug.com/Music/Bass/i-vs5m8C6/3/XL/TB1-XL.jpg

Both basses have the Squier Vintage Modified 70's TB Precision Bass bodies with the original pickguard (I have a custom bass with the same body and Fender neck).
Similar - but not identical!!! - pickguard is on Fender Modern Player Telecaster Bass and also Warmoth makes copy of a pickguard of that kind, but without a hole for pickup - made for use with regular split coil PU - here's the LINK (http://www.warmoth.com/Pickguard/72PBassPickguard.aspx).

Thanks Immo. Nice pickguards but expensive at $30-50$ each. I have found 30cm X 30CM sheets for about the same or less. How big is that in inches? Take care. Bob

If you want to cut it yourself, for the exact copy you'd need a sheet with 50 x 25cm (~20x10").
But you'd want to cut the upper horn to the single cut Telecaster body, right? So you'd need to reduce those 50cm to a bit more than 40cm (~16"). I bet there is a template for the original pickguard somewhere here, as originally, this design was used on the infamous (and quite sought after) Telecaster II Bass from the early 70's.
Good luck!

Thanks Immo. I don`t know how you know all this stuff. I did manage to find some answers here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecaster_bass
Do you know anything about the Bullet Bass?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/m5yates/Fender/Bullet%20Deluxe/BulletFront.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/m5yates/Fender/Bullet%20Deluxe/Headstock.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fender_Bullet_Bass

Take care. Bob

Bullet Bass was meant to be a "student bass" or even, pardon me for saying so, "girlie bass". It's quite lightweight and small plus quite easy to handle, with simple electronics. But don't underestimate this baby - it's a raw punk/hard rock machine in my book. The PU's are like in the Mustang Bass, miniature split coil with lots of sharp mids. I for one love that sound, I was even thinking about buying it, but then I found an original (in terms of looks and configuration) Japanese Fender Precision for great price and fell for her. But I digress - the Bullet Bass is now quite sought after, but it's definitely not a bass for everyone, just like the 70's Telecaster Bass II, but it's the opposite of it - Tele is muddy and low end-ish, Bullet has sharp sound with lots of mids.

Oh, one more thing about the Bullet - they were at first built in US, then the production moved to Japan. There are both Fenders and Squiers and the quality difference is minimal if any. But still, the sellers usually sell the Sq's for much less cash because of the Squier's "Fender's-cheaper-version" ethos. If you like that punky sound and can find one for the nice price (I reckon that less than 400 bucks for Fender would certainly be a bargain, but I may be wrong), you should try it.

Don`t get me wrong Immo. I`m just looking for ideas to employ in the SX telebass thinline I have. When I finish refinishing my friends Pbass clone I will start work on it. Right now its still mental mind candy.

Here is one that I find inspiring because of its simplicity:
http://northland.smugmug.com/Music/Bass/i-K7fxztq/0/M/a23lp6-M.jpg

What do you think? Take care. Bob

This looks like a Les Paul P-Bass. Pretty nice. I'd go into that direction, too :D

Immo do you think its the same body as this?

http://northland.smugmug.com/Music/Bass/i-bDfjksH/1/L/DSCF1907-L.jpg
What struck me as intesting was that it has but a single knob. Does that simplify wiring? I have a set of Pbass PUs that I could use but would still need to use a PG of some kind to cover the factory guitar bridge route. I have a brown (not red) tortise PB PG that I would love to use in this project. Take care. Bob

As for the first question - those basses are archtop, not flat bodied, so filling the old pickup holes and making new ones is a challenge. I don't think those are the same bodies.

The white one has one knob, but you see it's the kind of knob with rubber bands, so maybe it's a push/pull potentiometer. If it's a single, regular pot I guess it's the tone pot. At least if I had a option of using only one pot, it'd be a tone pot allowing to darken and thicken the sound. After all, he volume knob is in EVERY amp, even the Vavlve Junior, right? ;) The most simple wiring would be, of course, soldering the PU into the jack, but that's a bit too crude. I'm a fan of using volume knob and chickenhead selector switch connected with several capacitors and resistors for various tonal options (saw that in custom Telecaster Bass I can't seem to find now).

As for the pickguard, remember the "visualisation" I did for you. I reckon it'll do the trick perfectly, either with split coil PU or a humbucker (I pust the humbucker in an extended pre-existing split coil PU hole). With the split coil pickup you won't have to cover any extensive holes.

Immo i really am beginning to get ahead of myself as far as planning all of this out in advance. I still have another week or so work left to refinish the Pbass I`m working on. THEN step by step I will begin the Tele thinline project in earnest from the beginning. I know everyone will be sick of it before its done. I`ll be relying on you heavily where information is concerned. Thanks for all of the help you have volunteered so far. Take care. Bob

About the Fender Bullet bass ...

There were two different types!
The B30 is a Short Scale Bullet bass 30", the B34 is a Long Scale 34" bass!
The headstock design and the body shape are the same, but the B34 had a "longer" body (and longer neck) than the B30! Both had the same pickguard. That's why the "up bow" with the jack is at diffenerent places. Your photo shows a B34 Bullet bass (as the "up bow" is in the middle of the bridge and not at the end).

And the Bullet bass has Mustang bass (style) pickups (being the follower of the Mustang bass).

CU
Andreas

Thank you Andreas. Interesting. Learn something new everyday. Take care. Bob