April 13th, 2012, 08:24 PM
Thinking about the next build that I would like something in the 30-40 watt range "with reverb" and fenderish tone, yet with all the kits on the weber site, it's hard to know what is what...I like everything I've read about the 59Bassman but I really would like to have on board reverb in a head design....how close are these ?? thank you..I think I'm addicted to amp building :grin:
6A14 Blackface Princeton Reverb
6A20 Deluxe Reverb
6A40 Super Reverb
6A80 Twin Reverb
April 13th, 2012, 09:24 PM
Reverb in a head can be real problematic, due to the tank's proximity to the transformers. I tried it in a Laney 50w head cab (like a marshall) and the hum made it unusable. Just my experience...
April 13th, 2012, 09:37 PM
There's the 6a20x2 for a few more watts, but i'll bet just the deluxe reverb in a head would be sufficiently kick a$$!
I've been told excellent lead dress gets even more important in the reverb world to minimize/eliminate hummmm.
A tweed bassman with reverb would be a unique build, but will probably take a lot of shennanigans. Good learning exp. though.
April 13th, 2012, 10:24 PM
the 6a40 is a pro reverb- perfect size blackface IMO- you can get that perfect very edge of clean sound on stage- like one more notch and it'd be breaking up. deluxes get too gnarly at stage levels imo- twins are too clean. I cant believe the pro isnt more popular
April 13th, 2012, 11:02 PM
For 30-40W I'd pick the super kit
April 14th, 2012, 11:31 AM
I built a David Allen Old Flame (40w w/reverb) head about 10 years ago, and had no noise problems. Stick to a proven layout and you should be ok.
The amps you listed are all blackface-y, but all different from each other too, and none of them are close to a tweed bassman.
"30-40 watt range" to me says big bottle sound, so excludes the 6a14 and 6a20. The Twin is a monster of an amp - great if you like Fender cleans, or play outdoor venues, but probably too much for most club gigs if you want to crank the amp.
Blackface super it is.
Or, if you don't mind spending a little more, check out David Allen's Accomplice or Encore (with the transformer upgrade) or Old Flame. All come with reverb, and all can run either 6v6s or 6l6s for added flexibility. His kits, in terms of quality of design, parts, and instructions, are about as bulletproof as you can get
April 14th, 2012, 12:50 PM
thinking of the volumes of the 15watt tweed deluxe i just finished building maybe something as big as what i was thinking in the 30-40watt range is needed...hey maybe the blackfaces are not what I need either, but I do prefer the fenderish tones over marshall for me genres I play...I've been reading some of the reviews on the Weber kits and I'm not certain I want to go that route with missing parts, under powered trannys, etc etc...the allen amps look appealing...the 22W accomplish Jr based off the blackface deluxe reverb and certainly not cheap but worth consideration
April 17th, 2012, 12:03 PM
Well, after more reading and practically considering what this amp will be used for other than great tone and usable volumes for the places we play in most times, I really don't need a high powered all tube amp, but the one thing for sure I do want is for this next build to have "reverb" ..But I'd like to keep weight in mind as I have lugged enough equipment in and out of halls up and down stairs over the years that I'm thinking max volume and tone vs weight and bulkiness....What do you guys think of the Princeton reverb in a head with 2x10 rather than a single 12" in a sperate cab..I guess because I've never owned a 2x10, I'm sure the sound must be much sweeter rather than a single..who makes a good kit as I'm a little concerned the Webers might not be descriptive enough for my abilities and marsh is a little overpriced for my liking?? thank you
April 17th, 2012, 10:56 PM
Cieratone has some nice kits, alacart to complete amps. I imagine shipping be pretty high for us.
I find myself thinking along these lines frequently myself, or always thinking ahead. If I played out I think I would be thinking a deluxe reverb clone of sorts in a 210 version.
April 18th, 2012, 04:47 PM
agreed their prices are good, I couldn't find one Fender stlye kit that had reverb..