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Looking for a multiple effects for country.

joshmalory
April 11th, 2012, 09:32 AM
Thank you first.

I'm gonna buy a multiple effects with headphone output. I don't care how many effects it has but at least cabinet simulation, compressor, delay, reverb etc. Portable if best.

Thanks for your opinion.

Your humble servant

Josh Sun

PS: My friends suggest me to buy Line6 HD300, but what a shame, dozens of its functions are redundant for me.

gtrguru
April 11th, 2012, 11:57 AM
I had the first version of the Vox Tonelab and absolutely loved it for studio work. It has a power tube in it so you can get some great sounds that are more like an actual amp. I know they have newer versions and I'm sure they still sound killer.

ce24
April 11th, 2012, 12:11 PM
The boss me70 is something you might consider....I have the ME50 and it sounds great thru my 5E3 and my Vchamp.

DivadYug
April 11th, 2012, 12:57 PM
If you need a multi effects pedal to play country it means you have the wrong guitar with the wrong amp.

Personally, when I use pedals to play country, I only use aqua puss delay and green rhino drive.

Old Bill
April 11th, 2012, 01:11 PM
The boss me70 is something you might consider....I have the ME50 and it sounds great thru my 5E3 and my Vchamp.

I totally agree.The ME-50 is the tool for the job (and more) unfortunately it's obsolete in UK so ce24's advice re-ME-70 is good.

ericmichel
April 11th, 2012, 01:42 PM
TC electronic nova system

Kevinpenguin
April 11th, 2012, 01:43 PM
With any multi-effect, you are going to have useless tones for your application. I like the Line 6 Pod HD series. I use a POD HD Pro. Is it overkill? Yes, will I need another processor? No. It's great. I'm a singer and play in a country cover band. I'm not a lead player. The amp sims for Fender, Vox, and Dr. Z are great - the delays are fantastic, and the eq/compressors are great. I have used a couple of external overdrives with it, and it has taken them well.

If you don't want amp sims - check out the Line 6 M9. I love the outputs on the Line 6 versus the Vox gear. Vox doesn't have XLR outputs or a rack mount version. That was the major deciding factor for going Line 6 combined with the amp sims.

Big_Bend
April 11th, 2012, 02:10 PM
Another vote for the Boss ME-70 which I've found to be the perfect multi - effect unit.

MASONish
April 11th, 2012, 03:44 PM
Boss ME-70 like the others said! Very versatile & great sounding unit. Really cool to take on vacation or whatnot with the headphone jack. Really great with headphones. Usually do this when the wife & kids go to bed :-)

WireLine
April 12th, 2012, 02:25 PM
Depends on what you call 'country'

IF you can find one, the old Ibanez PUE5 Tube or PUE5 nontube units were spectacular for pure straight up country I think...no presets, just analog goodies. I dropped an ADA Microcab on the output and got some pretty passable straight up country sounds. Same with the even older UE305 (9 series comp, chorus, analog echo, with a loop to drop in your favorite distortion if needed)

Add a $25 headphone amp available from any studio section of any internet store, and there ya go.

stevehyphen
April 12th, 2012, 02:42 PM
Another option would be to get an amp which models all of this stuff. Just a thought :p

RockerDuck
April 12th, 2012, 02:46 PM
The Boss Me-70 does good country.

ce24
April 12th, 2012, 03:45 PM
Another option would be to get an amp which models all of this stuff. Just a thought :p

^^^The Mustang amps can do real good country

tonedreamer
April 12th, 2012, 11:22 PM
If you need a multi effects pedal to play country it means you have the wrong guitar with the wrong amp.

Personally, when I use pedals to play country, I only use aqua puss delay and green rhino drive.

+1
multi-effects pedals suck ass

Big_Bend
April 13th, 2012, 07:26 AM
+1
multi-effects pedals suck ass


No they don't.

Grow up.

WireLine
April 13th, 2012, 07:38 AM
I wouldn't say they suck...ME70 didn't suit my tastes, but lots of people like em, so it must be a good tool.

For that matter, some of the best 'country' (whatever that is) sounds I've ever gotten were from an 80s Roland GP8...anolog comp, dist, EQ, dig chor and ech rack unit, the biggest PITA to dial in - but once you got it, it stayed there...

Again, most of it is the player anyway...

depepat
April 13th, 2012, 07:39 AM
The initial problem with many multi-effects units is that they come pre-loaded with a bunch of ludicrously over-cooked high-gain/metal and hard rock presets designed to impress the kids who try them in music shops, but if you are prepared to get past those out-of-the-box settings and work up your own tones, they can be very good.

This is certainly true of the Zoom G3 unit that I just bought. It has 100 factory presets and I will probably junk 75 of them, but already by combining the many built in effects in ways that suit my style of playing, and by spending a bit of time getting the settings for each of those effects right, I am getting some really nice tones - not to mention that it also works as an audio interface, looper and drum machine.

MASONish
April 13th, 2012, 08:10 AM
No they don't.

Grow up.

+1

gtrguru
April 13th, 2012, 08:34 AM
No they don't.

Grow up.

+ 1

ce24
April 13th, 2012, 11:44 AM
The thing about the ME50 or ME70 is they work just like individual stomp boxes and all are Boss of course. You can then save what you've done to a patch bank but I never use that aspect. They OD of most any type, Modulation fx of most any type, and many delays with tap tempo. reverb and compression. what more is needed for 99% of all songs we as country, rockers and metal need? Are they bootique nope but are they good yes, and no bar audience is gonna know bootique from basic good fx. The ME series covers this real well.

tonedreamer
April 13th, 2012, 12:07 PM
I'm sorry guys, didn't mean to ruffle feathers. What I should have said was, all the multi-effects pedals I have played through sounded generic and cheap, but I haven't played through very many of them so I should have kept my mouth shut. had a few beers in me... again, I apologize :(

slowpinky
April 13th, 2012, 07:01 PM
If you are set on a multi - then try and find a s/h ME 50. Ive had both the ME 50 and 70 and while they are both handy units - the 50 is the simpler and cleaner of the 2 to my ears - as far as these things go - not crazy about the pre amp/cab emulation or the mod effects in the ME70 either.

cornfed
April 13th, 2012, 07:20 PM
If ya want good country tone, get a good sounding Tele and a good sounding fender amp.
Effects can ruin a perfectly good country tone,,, Guitar, cord, and amp, the only three things you need

Shardik
April 13th, 2012, 07:36 PM
So what about the Zoom G3? It is the closest you get to using real stomp boxes when it comes to usability. There is a limit on the number of simultaneous effects, but that may also be a good thing.

Sooper8
April 14th, 2012, 08:27 AM
If ya want good country tone, get a good sounding Tele and a good sounding fender amp.
Effects can ruin a perfectly good country tone,,, Guitar, cord, and amp, the only three things you need

I'm with you on that. Guys in my band cannot believe I don't use a pedal.

Having said that I do have a Nobels OD, an EHX Soul Preacher and a DOD Vibro Thang for fun, and love them.

ce24
April 14th, 2012, 09:09 AM
Country...what kind...Waylon used a Phase shifter....I think he got good country......purist? acoustic only.....bottom line it's a wide open palette...try to find your own sound......it's what we all strive for, for the most part I think. It's certainly a fun quest..good luck!

vincent
April 14th, 2012, 11:57 AM
+1 on the Line 6 HD Series. It has great amp models. As Kevin mentioned earlier the Fender, Vox & Dr Z amp models should cover most the stuff you would need (Mason, Urban, Paisley) if you play in a cover band. It has a headphone out, plus an Aux In so I can plug my iPhone in and play along with anything from iTunes or my Amazing Slow Downer app. Plus there a quite a few patches available on the internet so you can download them and install them on the processor. I like being able to tweak the unit with my computer and save the settings. The audio track I used in this video was using the Line 6 HD 500 direct into my computer so it can give you an idea of it it a clean country tone.

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artdecade
April 14th, 2012, 01:13 PM
I'm sorry guys, didn't mean to ruffle feathers. What I should have said was, all the multi-effects pedals I have played through sounded generic and cheap, but I haven't played through very many of them so I should have kept my mouth shut. had a few beers in me... again, I apologize :(

Look - if you are gonna blame beer, it had better be Guinness. I don't wanna hear that any wussy American light beer made you lose your marbles! Ha. :lol:

Big John Studd
April 14th, 2012, 01:28 PM
I see that Hello Music has the Line 6 M9 on sale today for $314. I have no earthly idea whether it is any good nor if it has the headphone output...you'd have to double check that.

http://www.hellomusic.com/ec/DealMain.aspx?did=14320

WireLine
April 14th, 2012, 01:40 PM
no REAL country picker can make a commentary about beer unless its Lone Star...in long necks.

Had a friend in a honky tonk band once complain about the hangover he had from drinking chardonnay wine coolers... sadly had to shoot him. Only twice, since he WAS a friend

TimW
April 15th, 2012, 07:32 AM
no REAL country picker can make a commentary about beer unless its Lone Star...in long necks.

I drank Lone Star in Waco back in '97:grin:....
but back on topic....
played another gig today and we play lots of Waylon, Cash, Strait and others.
I love Paisley's tone so I try to include that sound.
My pedals are;
Boss TU3
Wampler Ego Compressor
Wampler Paisley Drive
Way Huge Aqua Puss
EHX Small Stone Nano
into a '84 Peavey Bandit 65

Jagg76
April 16th, 2012, 08:35 AM
I personally prefer individual pedals. Although I have heard some impressive stuff on recordings with the LINE6 POD XT and the UX Toneport. I guess it's all about knowing how to dial into the right tone.

-Jagg

WireLine
April 16th, 2012, 09:15 AM
I personally prefer individual pedals. Although I have heard some impressive stuff on recordings with the LINE6 POD XT and the UX Toneport. I guess it's all about knowing how to dial into the right tone.

-Jagg

I'd agree. One thing people forget sometimes is recorded sounds with digital multi-effects units also tend to go thru $10K-$25K worth of classic analog vintage equipment before it gets to the listener. A POD or whatever into a Neve 1081 preamp, tracked at the highest sample rates, and mixed by people at the top of the game...played thru by the very best of players, is just going to sound better than someone playing a MIC tele using $2.99 earbuds or the least expensive reproduction system they can find.

This is a major gripe, not too far off topic - most if not all multi-effects units are digital, and as anyone who has spent any time as a recording engineer can attest to, without GREAT analog/digital/analog conversion, the sound is going to suffer - in many cases, severely. Just how good can the ADDA convertors in today's multi-effects be, when an entire unit costs $300? This cost covers the ADDA, the programming for hundreds of effects, the hardware, shipping, R&D (for most companies), advertising, etc...

As a reference point, a modest semi-pro studio's ADDA cost about $50-100 per channel for a stereo pair (the price goes down as the number of channels goes up) -- so truly GOOD ADDA is indeed expensive.

Just food for thought...but with inexpensive digital effects, your tone is going thru and being effected the most by a less than a few pennies worth of analog/digital conversion, which by much of the pro audio's word of measuring, is the single most important means of measurement outside of the player....

Again - just food for thought.

smithr
April 17th, 2012, 09:36 PM
I use a Digitech RP150 for compression, a touch of delay, overdrive, some reverb, and maybe chorus for a song or two. I use a MXR Phase 90 for Waylon and Jamey Johnson tunes, and a MXR Micro Amp at the end for boost. I either run it all into a Fender Stage 112se or a Peavey Vypyr 75, a back-up amp. The RP150 has some good amp sims if you tweak it. You just need to work with it a little. The good country sound comes from your fingers I think!