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perfect worship delay?

Tuto103
April 4th, 2012, 02:07 PM
What type of delay setting/bpm do you leave on all of the time? If any?

I know the worship leader of my church leaves a delay on all the time so I was looking for other peoples ideas/takes on it

Esaaal
April 4th, 2012, 03:59 PM
I'm using a DD-7 with the "analog" setting on 99 percent of the time. I just bought a DD-20 and you can switch between several useful delay presets. I'll probably work that pedal in soon.

tjalla
April 4th, 2012, 04:01 PM
Quarter note with a tap tempo. Learn to tap dotted eighths if needed (not hard - it's like the Bo Diddley or Rosanna beat).

jazzrat
April 4th, 2012, 04:41 PM
I have moved away from tap to an always on setting of about 420-450ms.
If you think "Eric Johnson does worship" that's what I'm shooting for.
For more ambient stuff I have a preset with more repeats, higher mix and somewhere around 500ms.

GeetarPlayer
April 5th, 2012, 02:44 PM
About half the songs we do have delay as a distinctively musical attribute of the guitar part. Like, there is no way you could copy the guitar part without an in-your-face delay setting.. that needs a specific ms setting. So I can't imagine a set-it-and-forget-it approach. I have fallback settings for generic rhythm, or lead, or ambiance. But I'll always have the need to program specific delay times for specific songs.

jazzrat
April 5th, 2012, 06:20 PM
The difference is we have decided to make the songs our own.
There is no concerted effort to sound exactly like the recording.
No right or wrong but it's the direction the worship leader has taken this
particular band.

justin.ray
April 5th, 2012, 06:39 PM
I use two delays, a DD-20 and a carbon copy. I use the DD-20 for song specific delay settings and the carbon copy for delay that emulates a live room sound.

IMO, the song specific delay sound is necessary for a some songs, but not all. Songs like revelation song really benefit from a delay setting based on the tempo of the song (dotted eighth notes are a must for this song, tempo is around 70 BPM).

But if you're looking for a generic sound that fattens up your tone, you'll want to NOT set to the tempo of the song. A lot of people use a relatively quick (less than 300ms) delay with the repeats and mix set low for a subtle fattening. You may favor a more distinct sound with a longer delay time or more repeats and a higher mix of the 'wet' sound (the 'dry' signal is the original sound, the 'wet' signal is the delayed sound).

I find that for most songs I use my DD-20 set to 1/4 notes and tap tempo with 3-5 repeats and about 60% the volume of the dry signal. My next most frequently used setting is dotted eighth notes and tap temp with 5-10 repeats and about 80% wet volume. My 'fattening' setting on the carbon copy actually varies quite a bit depending on the venue, the other musicians, and the mix.

theskypilot
April 7th, 2012, 02:54 PM
my mxr carbon copy is always on until i need the dd-7 for longer delays in solo riffs. i do use tap tempo on the dd-7.

CAAD8N8
April 7th, 2012, 09:44 PM
I don't leave delay on all the time, infact, I am trying to stray away from delay whenever possible, but my go to delay settings are a short, slapback with modulation from my dl4 and either quarter or dotted eigth from my dd7. I usually keep the feedback pretty low on all my delays, unless I am doing volume swells or ambient noise stuff.

Thighbanez
April 7th, 2012, 10:12 PM
dotted 8th Modulated delay on my TC Flashback.
Tap-Tempo'd to the beat of the snare drum hit.