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relief vs no/less relief

hart
April 1st, 2012, 09:46 AM
What is the advantage of a neck with zero or less relief than Fender spec?

-- h

KokoTele
April 1st, 2012, 10:38 AM
With lower relief you can get lower action with less buzzing, assuming your frets are properly leveled. It's rather elementary geometry.

I believe Fender's spec was chosen to prevent warranty claims. If you get your relief less than .005", it doesn't take much to get the neck to backbow.

Start looking at relief when you pick up a new guitar. Almost everyone's is set with far too much relief (often more than .020").

sjtalon
April 1st, 2012, 10:45 AM
Does lesser neck relief help you out for good intonation all the way up the board ?

donh
April 1st, 2012, 11:20 AM
Does lesser neck relief help you out for good intonation all the way up the board ?
yes, if the rest of the guitar is correct as well

read here: http://www.bryankimsey.com/setup/neck_relief_1.htm
warning! Actual Science!

beep.click
April 1st, 2012, 11:22 AM
warning! Actual Science!

I want that on a t-shirt. Or at least a button.

sjtalon
April 1st, 2012, 11:49 AM
I thought so, I'll have to read the art, thanks.

I haven't had any problems myself and run about .004"-.006" in the middle frets ( fretted at the last) checking with the G and D strings. Then action about 4/64" or a tad more usually.

Like Koko said "It's rather elementary geometry."

donh
April 1st, 2012, 11:58 PM
I want that on a t-shirt. Or at least a button.

http://store.xkcd.com/

scroll down about 3/4 the way, find a black t-shirt that says: "Stand back, I'm going to try science!"

I love that shirt :-)

hart
April 2nd, 2012, 11:06 AM
Thanks for the responses, guys.

-- h

raito
April 2nd, 2012, 12:07 PM
My wife has the 'Science. It works, bitches!" shirt. She's a chemical engineer, and often has to deal with people who think that not-science will work.