stijnkenens 's 2012 Challenge Build Thread -- COMPLETED

Damn it is so long ago, that I posted something here ...

Searched for 15 minutes for a new thread button ... :grin:


Have to think something out first ...




s.

Ik volg em! (aka popcorn ready!)

Voilá!

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01039.jpg

Et voila !!!

- Laminated beech and mahogany veneer for the body.
- Light weight flamed maple for neck.
- Wengé for fretboard.
- Tuners I already had.
- Home brewed pups.



s.

Sweet! Good luck!

Welcome, and good luck to ya'! :grin:

Dave

Good luck mate!! :mrgreen:

Thanks.
Just a sketch

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01043.jpg

front and back of laminated beech with mahogany veneer glued on it.
A core out of something else, also the few points where it is important to have some extra support for the two wings.


s.

I'm starting to like it already. :)

Subscribed ! :mrgreen:

make her special, dude

I think it is going to be something like this ...
Next week a normal scale layout.

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/teledef.jpg

Did I mention a multi scale neck?


s.

Looks like it's going to belong on a spaceship:razz:

Sounds like an ambitious project, and i can't wait to see it!

Fanned frets?

Jep, found a way to upgrade a tele bridge plate !!!


s.

this is gonna be very cool

And we're on...

I always draw 2 lines before I cut out any contours ...

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01046.jpg

Cut out top and back:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01048.jpg


Detail of a +/- outline for the core pieces:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01049.jpg


Sandwich for the core:
- 6mm laminated beech
- 1,2mm mahogany
- 10mm laminated beech
- 1,2mm mahogany
- 6mm laminated beech

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01050.jpg


Ad glue and pressure:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01051.jpg




s.

Good luck Stijn!

[...]

I always draw 2 lines before I cut out any contours ...

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01046.jpg

[...]

What's the reason?

I started doing this with a top and a back for an acoustic guitar: but only the outer line, just to be sure it is always big enough.

And now ... It does not take more time, so with 2 lines I cut in the middle :razz:
I think it is just a little autistic tick I have.
That's why I like watching little shop tours on You tube: You will notice you're not the only one with those ticks :mrgreen:



s.

Why beech?? I think you mean birch? Goe bezig jong!

:oops:

Indeed, birch ...

:oops:


All those wood names who sound the same ...

s.

Nice, I'm looking forward to the multi-scale neck. That will be cool. Nice design too!

It would look like this:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/fanned%20caster/DSC09692.jpg

First attempt on a tele, second attempt on a multi-scale guitar.
With this TDPRI challenge there are 3 multi-scale guitars in the running (another tele for a friend and a selmer macafferri copy ...)

s.

Started to cut out everything I need ...

Top and back, without veneer:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01073.jpg


I've copied the core design on a semi see-through paper, and translated to the mahogany birch sandwich:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01074.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01075.jpg


No pictures of cutting it, my mind is focused on the line and not cutting my fingers ...

Layout on the back:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01076.jpg


close up:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01078.jpg

My first idea was to put veneer on both sides of the top and back, but now I think I just glue a piece of veneer on top and bottom of the core units ...

So You will have a light inner side and a mahogany outside .


s.

Forgot one pic ...

Total weight of the body, not routed/sanded, without cavities and outside veneer ...

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01082.jpg


1.490 kg ...


s.

Wow, very interesting and a true skill challenge. Can't wait to see it and hear it!

Any progress?
I want to see what it looks like finished.

Good bump cuz I almost missed this one. Great planning and I can't wait to watch
this one develop!

Whoo ... Pressure :mrgreen:

There is a lot going on in the shop, so I have to work on it on evenings ...

Ok, here we go:

After glueing the sandwich core together, I sawed the components, and glued a few pieces of veneer on the outside.

Cutting through the sheets:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01085.jpg


And after that I sanded the sides square:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01086.jpg


Now it looks like this:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01087.jpg

First I thought to mirror the center-core, but it looks more natural like this !!!

Next step: glueing veneer on back and top.
I'm thinking to use a thinner birch laminate for top and back, 4 in stead of 6mm, So I'm missing 4 mm in thickness... Have to rethink some details ...



s.

Ok, so much for the 4 mm laminate ...
Used a band saw with big teeth ...

Looks good ...

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01129.jpg


Not so good ...

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01130.jpg


To the lathe:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01132.jpg


http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01134.jpg


This looks nice:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01135.jpg


To the big fellah:

first cut veneer:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01131.jpg


Glue:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01136.jpg


layers of veneer:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01137.jpg


Ad some pressure :

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01138.jpg



s.

Stijn,

Can I borrow your press to glue my top on? I promise Ill bring it right back. Im heading over on my bicycle now.........

Barncaster

Haha, I thought I would see you yesterday, still on your bike? :)

It's an old furniture press, for glueing veneers on to cupboard doors.
I think we use it maximum 5 times a year ... but it is handy when you need it !


s.

Very interesting guitar, I can't wait to see this finished.

Haha, I thought I would see you yesterday, still on your bike? :)

It's an old furniture press, for glueing veneers on to cupboard doors.
I think we use it maximum 5 times a year ... but it is handy when you need it !

s.

Stijn,

It looks like you could squeeze an elephant into an ant with that thing!

Barncaster

Probably ...
And it is one of 3 ...
You can veneer a whole door in it ...


s.

fresh from the press

a veneered top and back ...
3 sheets were to small for one top, didn't like to match them perfectly, so i'm gonna route 2 slots and ad some other veneer between the sheets.

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01147.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01148.jpg


And the occasionally shop shot:
This is my daily heaven / shop ...

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01150.jpg



s.

I've got no idea what this is going to look like in the end, but it's fun watching you get there. Make sure you document your method for laying out the frets; inquiring minds want to know.

I'm feeling the same, no idea what so ever how it is going to look in the end.

I will document every step of the multi scale neck preparation !


s.

Ok, did some work today ...
I have some projects drying on the wall, so we go one with this one...

I spend the day in this cave:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01154.jpg


Routing the 2 slots for the maple veneer:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01151.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01157.jpg

But I found the top and back to tick so sanded it down...


7 mm:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01158.jpg


sandin'

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01159.jpg


5 mm, it can bow again ...

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01160.jpg


prepared some maple veneer and glued it in the slots:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01162.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01163.jpg


After a few hours let them loose and sanded the outside of top and back, now we have this:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01164.jpg

And smooth inside:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01165.jpg

Still have to deal with something predicted, but didn't think it was this large ...

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01166.jpg


s.

I spend the day in this cave:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01154.jpg


That's not just a cave. That's a real Man Cave !! Exactly how a workshop should look like. Perfect!

I envy you mate :mrgreen:

Give me a cave like that and I grow Homo sapiens idaltu again...

@ Ike: don't know what it is with you and the man cave ...

That 'man cave' is the biggest 'plus' where I rent my little shop !!!


s.

@ Ike: don't know what it is with you and the man cave ...


Once you're married for 25 years you will understand the importance of a man cave :mrgreen:

Ok, I'm not married, but have a girlfriend, and my shop is my baby !
Can't live without both of them, and always happy when I can go to either one of them !!!

But maybe after 25 years the shop is the only peace haven ... :mrgreen:

s.

And a little bit further ...

Routed out the top and back:

behind routed, in the front un-routed:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01195.jpg


Just with double stick tape to the template:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01196.jpg


Of to the table router:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01197.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01198.jpg

After that, time to glue the first pieces of the core:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01199.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01200.jpg


Still need an arm rest and some details which I did not figured out yet ...


s.

Previous pictures puzzled me but now I can see how you're building this guitar. Nice job Stijn !

Whoehoe, I've got stars !!! :mrgreen:



s.

Happens to me every time I bump my head!

The body is almost finished:

The top has to be a little bit more flexible, because I want an arm rest, so I've routed some "sound holes" :mrgreen:


Draw:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01204.jpg


Lay out:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01205.jpg


Rout:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01206.jpg


Sand:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01208.jpg


Nice:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01207.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01209.jpg


For the control cavity... It was a little bit to small ...

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01203.jpg

So I had to tune the pot ...

Fits nice:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01201.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01202.jpg


Still needs some channels for the pup wire ...



s.

Lookin' gooooooooood Stijn !

What's the relation between the armrest and the soundholes?

Flexibility !!!

Wait and see ...



s.

very cool!

Flexibility !!!

Wait and see ...



s.

Now I'm getting really curious :confused: :mrgreen:

Looking really cool!

Wow, I love those soundholes. Did you use a bit that allowed you just cut one line, or is
that more than one pass?

It was just one pass, so I had to be very careful, didn't want the router to wander around...

Did some tubing work today ...

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01213.jpg


On to the lathe:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01214.jpg


Looks nice:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01215.jpg


Perfect fit:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01216.jpg


Funny:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01217.jpg


This is how the guitar will look with a bridge:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01212-1.jpg


I mentioned multi-scale already, I think...

Did I also said hollow neck?


Just throwing a line ... :mrgreen::twisted:

Whaaat?? Hollow-neck??? You dare-devil!

Wow Stijn,

That is a science fiction Tele! Very cool.

Barncaster

You, sir, are an artist! Very very nice.

-Kevin

Did I also said hollow neck?


Just throwing a line ... :mrgreen::twisted:

Stijn, you bragger :mrgreen:

Better tie it to a table leg, when finished, otherwise it might start to levitate. :wink:

Better tie it to a table leg, when finished, otherwise it might start to levitate.

That's the idea, as light as possible ...

Interesting concept. Looks like its coming together nicely.

Hollow neck.....that's just crazy talk now.

Are you still going to use that flamed maple for the neck? I wonder how you're going to do that. And what about the truss rod?

Or, are you going to use fiber for the neck :roll:

Questions, questions, but I guess you're not going to tell us - yet :mrgreen:

:mrgreen:

I always thought you had to be crazy to build guitars ...:shock:

And no, I'm not going to tell you how I'm going to do it (have to figure it out for myself first ...)

It's going to be maple, but but probably something else, and with carbon, but ...

That's all I know, for now ...



s.

Very nice.

Looks like I have to do things faster...
Will make a start with the neck tomorrow !


s.

Very cool and unusual design nice work so far! can't wait to see how this comes together.

I am still trying to get through and see new threads, glad I stumbled into this one!!

Those top slots are really cool looking!

Ok, one little sneak preview:

Two blocks for neck and head, carbon rods and, sheet of flexible plywood and a to big piece for the fretboard

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01221.jpg


Still way to heavy: little less than 800 grams (1.76 Lbs)
a normal neck, with fretwire is around 500 grams (1.1 Lbs)

Maybe I have to change the big headstock for the tele one, because I'm aiming for light weight ...



s.

It will slim down to 500gr I guess once it is all routed and trimmed to size..

I hope I can lower it down to 300 or so ...

I will take pictures when I trim everything to size ...
And glue it together !

s.

Cool build - I think I know where you're going with this and I like it :grin:

just sanded and shaped the fretboard blank. minus 100 grams.
still 400 to go ...



:cool:




s.

I like where this is headed. It's like the antithesis to my build :mrgreen:

Since I saw your turned wiring tubes the other day, a scary amount of my time is spent imagining how this will look at the end if the challenge; I'm picturing a weird Rube Goldberg-meets-wooden-steampunk-but-organic look, if that makes any sense.

Steampunk, i like ...

Now on with the neck, trying to work a few hours a day on the tdpri guitar ...
(not easy because it is a really interesting build for myself ...)


Don't think my English is good enough for explaining everything, but i'll give it a try ...

I cut out the neck blank and glued a piece of scrap against it.

Drew 3 channels on the inside and took it to the little tiny table saw.
The outer channels are perpendicular to the sides, the middle is just in the center.

With the scrap piece glued to one side, I can plane every guidance I want...

soit, pictures:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01223.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01224.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01225.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01227.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01229.jpg

The carbon rods drops +/- 3 mm in the fretboard (witch is 7 mm in thickness)

They are for sturdiness and holding head and neckblock together.

The neckblock:

put it on the fretboard and drew lines where the channels are, than just sawed them by hand, and removed the leftovers with the smallest chisel I have.:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01230.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01237.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01238.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01239.jpg


Looks weird ...

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01240.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01241.jpg

That's all for today ...


s

This is getting cooler by the minute...English or no English

And to make it easier for you to concentrate on this build, I'm willing to take
the guitar off your hands. That way, it'll seem like a "customer build", which
of course takes higher priority. Consider it my little gift to the community:razz:

Haha, I have to do this between guitar repairs and other things.
But it is sometimes difficult to focus on other jobs because this is super interesting, not only building wise, but also designing and thinking about it ...



s.

This build has my full attention. Don't you dare to sell this one before the Dutch Guitarbuilders Meeting this year. I want to see and feel it !! :wink:

off course I will bring it !
Together with the multi-scale Selmer Maccaferri copy !


s.

Where do I start ...


Nailed down the top, so I could fix the arm rest:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01242.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01243.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01244.jpg



drilled holes for the electro cavity:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01245.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01250.jpg


Did some logoing, writing and laquer-ing:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01248.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01252.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01253.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01254.jpg

On with the neck:

I'm going for the tele headstock...

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01257.jpg

First drew some lines and sawed and chiselled 3 channels :

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01270.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01265.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01267.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01269.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01273.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01272.jpg

Now the neck looks like this:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01275.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01276.jpg

First I have to fret the fretboard, I can't hammer or push the frets in when I've made the back of the neck ...


s.

I've just put everything on the scale, or balance:
Neck weight: 350 grams.
Still have to remove some wood and add frets ...


s.

Oh man, that neck is looking so very weird. Has this been done before somewhere or is this your idea? Can't wait to see it finished.

Nice job on the armrest !!

I have to see that neck being built before I understand it fully - but I believe you have it figured out! Real challenge spirit there.

:mrgreen:

@ Ike: Nop, I don't think so.

Maybe I should ask a patent on it, if it works, but it is already to late, its on the web now ... But that's not my goal.

@ Tklaavo: me to ... :wink:


s.

I bet this guitar will sound very "airy". Outstanding Stijn!

At least neck dive will not be a problem here. Very exciting! Subscribed.

I'm also curious about the sound, and playability ...

The weight of the body is now less than 1.4kg, so I can't put an heavy neck on it ...



s.

This is by far the one build that I literally can't wait to see finished. I'm confused to
the point I wouldn't be able to even recognize the parts, let alone assemble it, lol.

For me this is also a challenge, and a good opportunity to experiment with light weight guitar parts ...
Next time maybe I will go for headless tuners I think ...


So it is one step closer to the ergonomic SK guitar !!!


s.

That is exactly what I do stijn, challenge yourself, and try new stuff!

Jep, I've noticed ...
I need a metal milling machine, and learn how to chrome or nickel plating :wink:


s.

Your build looks like a lot of fun, and you really, really have a fine shop, sir! Wonderful work!

And I should add that this neck is absolutely brilliant! If your build has the tone, this could be a real game-changer for those of us looking for the lightest guitars we can find. Good luck with it!

This is very creative, and very cool. Nice build.

Incredibly unique. A fine work of art as well as a functional guitar.

Hey Stijn,

This is a seriously cool build. I agree with rcole-sooner that this year's guitars are just over the top. Excellent, creative building all the way around. The final test of playability however remains to be seen. I can't wait to hear it Stijn. What are you going to do for pickups? I'm sure your magnets will be hollow as well as the magnet wire. ;-).

Barncaster

I'm sure your magnets will be hollow as well as the magnet wire.

Don't get me started ...

No, it will be just a home brewed bridge pup from a stewmac kit.
It's already crazy enough, and I like the sound of it !


this could be a real game-changer for those of us looking for the lightest guitars we can find.

That's what I'm aiming for, just have to think some details through, but I'm getting there !


s.

There's definitely and air of brilliance about this guitar :wink:

I love the "newtherapist" way, but for now I still do it by hand ...


How do I start...

I have 3 fret positions marked on the neck mould.

Zero fret (start / nut) 7th fret (perpendicular fret) 12th fret (halfway the stringlength)

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01327.jpg


I put the fretboard on the mould and draw the fret marks on it:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01328.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01329.jpg


Then I mark the outer strings (3mm from the side at the nut and 4 at the 12th)

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01330.jpg


With the ruler in place (zero 7th and 12th as a reference)
I print out the 2 scales for treble and bass at the stew mac site:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01326.jpg


And point out the fret positions on both sides of the fretboard:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01331.jpg


After that I connect the 2 points:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01332.jpg

And cut by hand, with a support, which you put on the perfect spot with some light hammer blows:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01333.jpg


Until teeth depth:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01334.jpg


Do it for all the frets, so the outer teeth of the saw are on both sides of the pencil line.

Just for the nut you have to cut between the lines.

Et voilá:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01336.jpg


Just for the looks of it: even the nut is fanned ...

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01335.jpg


s.

Fanned frets are cool. :cool:

But unless my eyes are mistaken or the photos in some way are misleading, I think something is wrong with your first fret. It seems to have almost the same distance to the second fret all the way, while it is much closer to the nut at one side compared to the other.

Or to put it another way: I looks like there is no fanning of the frets from fret 1 to fret 2.

And BTW: Fanning the nut is not for the looks, it is a quite essential part of the guitar scale of a fanned fret guitar. The nut is simply a fret with string slots, actually.

I am not trying to be negative here, but I do think something is off, at least with the measurements between first and second fret.

Damn you're right ...

I'm almost 2 mm off on the first fret at the treble side ...

No worries, found already a way to fix it ...
Stay tuned !

s.


p.s. And about the nut, of course its like a zero fret, but I wanted to point out the bass side is slightly larger than the treble side !

Damn you're right ...

I'm almost 2 mm off on the first fret at the treble side ...

No worries, found already a way to fix it ...


I know you're going to fix this. I've got no worries about that. (Even I'm not perfect) :mrgreen:

p.s. And about the nut, of course its like a zero fret, but I wanted to point out the bass side is slightly larger than the treble side !
Ah... my eyes are not THAT good. :roll:

Fanned nut thickness is very cool indeed. :grin: :cool:

Glued in a spline of veneer of the same tree ...

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01341.jpg

Leave it +/- 2 hours.

Scrape it, sand it and ready to saw ...

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01342.jpg



s.

Gees that's a nice seamless repair - you won't see that under the fret once it's in. Nice job and the guitar is looking special too by the way!

Great save on that one, shouldn't be visible once the frets are in.
Good work!

Probably it will peep from under the fret a little bit.
That's not the problem, but you will hear it when fretting the first fret ... :rolleyes:


s.

Probably it will peep from under the fret a little bit.
That's not the problem, but you will hear it when fretting the first fret ... :rolleyes:

s.

Hey Stijn,

Fanned and fretless are you saying? I think your neural synapses are hollow! :-)

Barncaster

Haha, not on a guitar !

Freaks will say you can hear the repair when playing a note on the first fret :mrgreen:


s.

Wait....what repair?

Haha, I will hammer the frets in tomorrow, I'm really curious about the repair !!!

Very slowly we're getting to a neck (I hope ...)



s.

Ok, the fretboard is fretted halfway, and under a press:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01359.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01362.jpg


So I went on with the body:

This had to go:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01343.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01345.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01346.jpg

Looks better this way:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01364.jpg

And glue time !!!

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01367.jpg


Looks like something extraterrestrial ...

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01370.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01369.jpg



s.

Ok, the fretboard is fretted halfway, and under a press:

Looks like something extraterrestrial ...

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01370.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01369.jpg



s.


Love, love, love these shots.

:eek:

Body is almost finished ...

Took it out of the clamps, and cleaned up glue squeeze-out, and rounded the corners a little bit ...

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01374.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01376.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01375.jpg




s.

Velly naais!!

Incredible work. I love it. :smile:

Looking goooooooood !!

:shock: I love this!

This is awesome Stijn! I can't wait to hear it!

Barncaster

This is awesome Stijn! I can't wait to hear it!

Barncaster

Me too :smile:

That's the goal isn't it ...
Building a guitar and hopefully it is playable :)

I hope string tension won't break the neck !
I'm used to a 0.10 set so that's what I'm gonna put on it (when it's finished ...)



s.

On with the neck:

First I've cut a little rabat on both sides of the fretboard.

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01379.jpg

I lined out the head and tail, and drew a neck shape on them:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01380.jpg

Then I shaped the contour with rasp, file and sandpaper.

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01382.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01384.jpg

And when you put everything together, you get this:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01386.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01388.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01389.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01390.jpg



s.

Now I want to glue an aluminum plate on the back of the neck ;)

[EDIT:] Or Plexiglas

Hey Stijn,

You cut a little bunny rabat??? Anyway, looks like robo neck. This build is just wild! Keep going, this is excellent!

Barncaster

What's a bunny rabat?
Couldn't find the word for it, so I thought you will understand what I mean.

Still thinking how to glue everything together, I think it would be a mix of epoxy and titebond.
Epoxy for the carbon, titebond for the wood ...


s.

http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/gg535/nosmospics/images.jpg

http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/gg535/nosmospics/images.jpg

:shock:

I think Rabbet is the word we are looking for.

Is the rabbet so you can wrap some veneer around the back of the neck?

That fix you show a couple posts back, where you remove the knot and replace it with a little triangle inlay, is that on the "inside" of the guitar? At first I was thinking, "uh oh, not gonna look too good" - but for a fix on the inside where it is so hard to see anyways, wow, what attention to detail! The build is looking very cool, love the pics of the body assembled, looks like modern architecture - i think i have been inside that building! And the neck, like a modern concrete bridge, very neat. Can't wait to see the whole thing assembled and playing. Excellent work, very inspirational!

Sorry Stijn,

It was word play. You cut a rabbet. The little furry animal in the picture above is a rabbit. It's pronounced the same in english.

Barncaster

I had the link with the rabbit, when Nosmo posted the pic.
I couldn't find a word for rabbat in English so I just went lazy ...

The triangle inlay is on the inside, so I just wanted it to be neat.
You can hardly see it!


s.

Confusing. I think British woodworkers used to refer to rabbets as "rebates." I saw an ad once for a "rebate plane" and wondered why they intended to offer a discount (in America, a "rebate" is money that manufacturers give back to customers who buy their stuff.)

Anyway. I'm completely excited to hear this thing play, Stijn. Keep it up!

Finally I'm starting to understand how this thing goes together. I was hoping I would catch on soon, I was feeling kinda dumb. What a cool design, I wish I could play it, it's just so unique and cool.

Yes Muzikp,

But did he tell you about the hollow core copper wire he's going to use? Our Stijn is mass phobic shall we say and this build is cool as s&$t! Who else here has a Tele with insides that look like the insides of a scandinavian shopping mall. God my G.I. Joe wants to so play in there. I can't believe the 6 year old inner monologue just came out..........

Barncaster

Confusing. I think British woodworkers used to refer to rabbets as "rebates." I saw an ad once for a "rebate plane" and wondered why they intended to offer a discount (in America, a "rebate" is money that manufacturers give back to customers who buy their stuff.)

Anyway. I'm completely excited to hear this thing play, Stijn. Keep it up!

Indeed, when you search for 'rabbet plane' of 'rebate plane' on a search engine it will give the same pictures.


Hollow copper wire would be fun, but it is hard to find ...

My girlfriend suggested to keep the neck open as is, but it would be hard to play, I guess ...

And @ musikp: don't feel dumb, for me it was the same feeling, preparing all the little pieces, and only when I've put them together, it started to look like a guitar, and I knew where I was heading to ...
:wink:



s.

What a incredibly unique and interesting build. Cant wait to see how this comes together!

Looks like a perfect set-up for a clear plexi glass curved back on the neck?

This is such a cool idea. Love the innovations

Jep, it crossed my mind, but then I had to do the carbon and heel and head part a lot neater. You don't see it on the pictures, but it's not nice to look at.


s.

This is a very cool concept.... I like your approach to this.

This is a very cool concept.... I like your approach to this.

+1 Me too - I've been pretty busy with my own build and have not seen everyone's progress lately - this is a delight to see come together! Inspiring :idea:

Subscribed. Can't wait to see how this turns out!

I've learned something new today ...

Multi quote-ing :mrgreen:

So don't be angry if I didn't use it before ...

This is a very cool concept.... I like your approach to this.

Thanks, it's a challenge after all !


+1 Me too - I've been pretty busy with my own build and have not seen everyone's progress lately - this is a delight to see come together! Inspiring :idea:

Me to, there is so much to follow, and if you subscribe to all of them, I think you're getting crazy ...


Subscribed. Can't wait to see how this turns out!

Me to :grin:



s.

What a incredibly unique and interesting build. Cant wait to see how this comes together!

+1

Body is almost finished, tomorrow string ferules and the jack pocket.

But this is what I had today:


Little packet with some hardware:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01399.jpg


Did some routin' on the neckpocket and pup cavity:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01400.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01402.jpg


cleaned the sides around the pocket:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01404.jpg


And the electronics cavity:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01405.jpg

The hole for the pot is out of centre I hear everybody thinking, yes it is, but it was meant to be !!


s.

You gotta have room for the wires.
And it should keep the pot from spinning when you tighten the nut.

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01400.jpg

Did some routin' on the neckpocket and pup cavity:


Why does this look so strange? Did you put the template on the body the "lefty" way?

Did you put the template on the body the "lefty" way?

Yep, he did

It looks like he's using a lefty bridge as well. Probably the fanned-idea is impossible to use with a righty bridge (the slanting of the pickup would be too far off), so he's using a lefty bridge, and thus routing.


Looks awesome Stijn, but the neck... I have NO idea what you're planning to do with that :D

You gotta have room for the wires.
And it should keep the pot from spinning when you tighten the nut.

I don't need to much room for wires, but the spinning idea is useful, didn't think about it...

The volume pot isn't round at all, you still have the lugs pointing out:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01202.jpg


And yep, it's routed the lefty way, I use a lefty bridge for a multi-scale neck, like the one in this thread:

"KLIK" (http://www.tdpri.com/forum/tele-home-depot/225608-experimental-tele-fanned-caster.html)



s.

I've put some shellac on the body with a brush, looks stunning !!!
Still needs a lot of TLC but I like it already ...

s.

Those body slots make the guitar look like an old-time radio, like there should be a speaker underneath!

http://3950.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Philco_41-608.jpg

That neck is tripping me out too. I'd love to try to play something like that!

That's a cool one.
But I'm in love with this little fella:

http://imgs.gear.ly/amps/FS-Vintage47-Oahu-Suitcase-Amp-Valco-The-Gear-Page/md_f320a22eed.jpg


s.

One fresh coat of shellac brushed on it ...

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01412.jpg


http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01413.jpg


I'm in love !!!



s.

That is gorgeous! I maintain, that shellac is one of the best looking, most economical finish options out there, and is compatible with any other finish. Nature has some great solutions for problems :grin:

Looks like something extraterrestrial ...

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01370.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01369.jpg



s.

This looks like a really cool room. I wish this was my house.

This looks like a really cool room. I wish this was my house.

How do you say "binnenhuisarchitect" in English? :mrgreen:

Very cool, Stijn.
Getting there!

How do you say "binnenhuisarchitect" in English? :mrgreen:


interior architect :wink:

interior architect :wink:
Smart guy!
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MRmtMw9M_MI/TGpgQDcx4aI/AAAAAAAAALo/bv10CT0GViY/s400/highfive_Borat.gif

:mrgreen:

Haha, it's the second time somebody mentioned an interior ...

Have no clue why ...



s.

Haha, it's the second time somebody mentioned an interior ...

Have no clue why ...

s.

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01369.jpg

http://www.atgp.nl/eigengitaar/interior.jpg

http://www.atgp.nl/eigengitaar/interior.jpg

Why did they put the wooden knobs for the controls inside the guitar?

Why did they put the wooden knobs for the controls inside the guitar?

That's another piece of art invented by the Master called "design" :mrgreen:

http://www.atgp.nl/eigengitaar/interior.jpg

I see the similarities :mrgreen:


s.

I see the similarities :mrgreen:


s.
Are u gonna do the same level of finish on the inside? ;)

No lights, but better :)



s.

Some really great design going on here. I'm really diggin' it

IMHO - this is the coolest build, looks great stijnkenens

I just f*cked up my little proxxon table saw ...

Have to look for spare parts before I can finish my hollow neck !
So of to the body: French polish it is !!!


s.

hi Antwerp guy, great job !
really dig the hollow neck thing
cheers
barno

S. man! Way to go! Trashing your equipment like a bawz! :mrgreen:
Really curious about this one's sound!

So of to the body: French polish it is !!!


s.

French polish the old fashioned way I suppose ? :wink:

Some really great design going on here. I'm really diggin' it

Ha, the one with the guitar on the other side of the balance, we really have to compare the weight of our instruments :wink:


IMHO - this is the coolest build, looks great stijnkenens

Thanks !


hi Antwerp guy, great job !
really dig the hollow neck thing
cheers
barno

Ha Barno, I'm curious about this too !


S. man! Way to go! Trashing your equipment like a bawz! :mrgreen:
Really curious about this one's sound!

Fixed it already, but have to find some spare parts ...


French polish the old fashioned way I suppose ? :wink:

Of course, is there an other way???


Pics:

French polish:
First brushed some layers of shellac on the body, sanded it down and took the bottles of alcohol and dissolved shellac out of the closet:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01474.jpg


After an half an hour:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01475.jpg


On to the neck:

I was afraid I would squeeze the neck, without something supporting the pliable triplex ...

So I glued a piece of balsa over the carbon in the middle:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01529.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01528.jpg


Planed it down:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01534.jpg


And rounded the sides:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01535.jpg


Measuring the contour:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01536.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01537.jpg

And translate it to the pliable triplex

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01538.jpg


With a bit of luck I've got myself a neck tomorrow ...



s.

Its too bad you can't find something see through to use to cap the back of the neck.... that would give a very nice "inside view"

I was thinking the same, but I don't think it comes out nicely, a lot of glue squeeze out on the inside, which can't be removed ...


s.

Ok, now the end is near ...

How do I have to change the date and hour settings on this forum, so I'm sure I wouldn't be to late with the last forum post with finished pics and video ?

Would be interesting for other foreign Participants


s.

Ok, now the end is near ...

How do I have to change the date and hour settings on this forum, so I'm sure I wouldn't be to late with the last forum post with finished pics and video ?

Would be interesting for other foreign Participants


s.

Go to the menu bar -> User CP
In your control panel -> Edit options
In the options screen scroll down -> Date & Time options
Set Time Zone to: GMT +1:00 hour Brussels, Copenhagen etc etc.
DST Correction Option: Automatically

Save changes and you're done!

Good luck with the neck finishing part.
Your french polish looks great :!:

Set Time Zone to: GMT +1:00 hour Brussels, Copenhagen etc etc.

That's the time zone of this part of the earth (those are the settings now) but I want to know the timezone where the TDPRI 'big boss' lives, so I wouldn't be to late with posting my final pics and youtube clip !


Good luck with the neck finishing part.
Your french polish looks great :!:

Thanks, It still looks ugly, but it's gonna be a lot better at the end of next week !


s.

Most likely he lives to the West, so keeping your own timezone you will be on the safe side. If he lives in the US time difference will be about 6 hours so you will have time until May 15 about 6 in the morning.

(I assume Belgium still uses the Dutch timezone :mrgreen: ?)


BTW: Now you also know why the crisis started in the US - They are still asleep over there while we already worked half a day. That had to go wrong some time :wink: )

Set your time to GMT -6. That should be US Central Time Zone.

I will keep that in mind when entering the last weekend ...

Now on with the French polish...


s.

man, next time I'm in Antwerp I will def. visit your shop to check this on out!

man, next time I'm in Antwerp I will def. visit your shop to check this on out!

Wanna go together? :wink::oops:

:mrgreen:
Want to see this one in person too!

All invited !!!

Coffee in the morning and at noon.
Beer after 4 o'clock !

:)


s.

Did a dry test run, three times on a row ...

Neck is glued, very curious about it, we will see tomorrow !


s.

Without being pushy: Any results?? :mrgreen:

Stay tuned !



s.

Ok here we go ...


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After the dry test run: do it again and ad glue :)

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01560.jpg

close up:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01561.jpg


After a quiet night I took it out of the clamps ...
It certainly looks like a neck ...

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01563.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01566.jpg


Chunky D-shape:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01564.jpg


Head transition:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01565.jpg

Needs a lot of TLC but I'm getting there, I think I will give it 2 layers of brushed schellac, otherwise I can't finish it in time ...


s.

OMG, no more neck shaping. I love it :smile:
That might very well be the most innovative guitar of the year :idea:

How does it feel? Does it feel like a normal neck? Stable? That's such a cool idea!

It feels chunky !
But extremely light, when finished I put it on the balance, really curious about it.

I think I'm going to make the sound sample while tuning it up. It can be the first and last time that neck produces any sound ... :mrgreen::shock:

But so I have my 60 sec's of "guitar being played" ...


s.

Wow Stijn!

This is completely cool! It's Roboneck! I thought minor neck routing was extreme but this is over the top! I bet this guitar is going to have a very beautiful, almost acoustic-like tone. Can't wait for the video!

Rob

I was thinking the same this afternoon: How will the neck respond to string vibration.
And would it change while taking your hands of ?

Curious ...


s.

I'm optimistic, Stijn; I doubt it'll snap while you're tuning up. Three CF rods are a lot of stability, I'm thinking.

Can't wait for the vid.

Thanks, it encourages me.On my way home I was thinking about .009 strings ...
But I rather use .010 ...



s.

****ed up a small little detail on the guitar body ...
Its a pity, but she would be playable on monday for sure, even if I have to French polish all night long ...



s.


*edit*
BTW: neck is finished (without laquer) and the weight is 309 grams ...
That's 0,681 lbs ... :shock:

****ed up a small little detail on the guitar body ...
Its a pity, but she would be playable on monday for sure, even if I have to French polish all night long ...


S H * T.
I do hope you manage to fix it. Fingers crossed :wink:

Go Stijn!

This is one of my favorite builds. I just can't wait to hear it. There will definitely be some very unusual resonances with this guitar. :cool:

Barncaster

I do hope you manage to fix it. Fingers crossed :wink:

Nop, I can't ...
post some pics as soon as I can !



s.

Ok, almost there ...
But still a lot to do ...

Drilled dots:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01567.jpg


drilled holes for tuners and burned the headstock:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01570.jpg


prepared the lefty bridge for multi-scale neck:

first I've put the bridge on the right spot, then I used a loose bridge saddle to calculate the right position for treble and bass E string.

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01575.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01576.jpg


use a pointy thing for the right location and drill:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01578.jpg


When drilled use the bridge as a guideline for the string through channels:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01580.jpg


Take the bridge of again, and locate the holes on the back:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01582.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01583.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01584.jpg

Picture with the string ferulles on the back is coming soon.


Did I mention my little mistake???

Look at the left sight of the bridge:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01572.jpg


Drilled out the hole for the jack:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01587.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01588.jpg

Neck weight is:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01574.jpg


And lacquer:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01589.jpg



s.

Fortunately it's not a mistake that will have any influence on the playability. I know if you had time you would be able to fix it, one way or another.
You could even snap a corner out of the bridge to make it fit the soundhole :mrgreen:

Love that neck :razz:

You could even snap a corner out of the bridge to make it fit the soundhole

I've heard that option before, and was also my first thought.

But its the place where you rest your right hand, I don't think it would be a pleasant feeling ...



s.

So the lacquer must've doubled the weight of that neck.

I've heard that option before, and was also my first thought.

But its the place where you rest your right hand, I don't think it would be a pleasant feeling ...



s.

Well, there's no good music without suffering ánd it would reduce the weight. :lol::lol:

So the lacquer must've doubled the weight of that neck.

Na, don't think so, I drilled the holes for the neck mounting screws.
The weight I lost there is back on with the lacquer :wink:


Somebody mentioned .007 strings, they will also reduce the weight :rolleyes:

s.

prepared the bridge:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01590.jpg

Polishing my ass of right now, I've got a busy weekend, so it going to be hard to finish it, but I'm still in the running !


s.

[cheering mode on] GO STIJN GO [/cheering mode off]

Just a few hours left. See you at the finish :D

A few hours ...
I would say a day, but getting there!

No time to talk, just pics.


Did the pup yesterday and wired the electronics:

Ready, set, go !!!

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01597.jpg


Grinding the pole pieces:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01598.jpg


give it a nice blow with a hammer:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01599.jpg


Does somebody know why they're coloured red on the downside?

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01600.jpg


Hammer on frontplate:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01601.jpg


2 times double stick tape:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01602.jpg


wind !

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01603.jpg


I've just wind the leftover of a almost empty bobbin on it ... came out at 6,40 k.
It will do, it's going to be sharp ... very sharp ...


Put everything together:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01605.jpg

total weight: 2.04 kg ...


Wiring:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01608.jpg


Nut today, and some strings !

Video tonight !

s.

Looking good so far! Don't forget to embed the video. Only a link won't do!!!

See: http://www.tdpri.com/forum/2012-tdpri-tele-build-challenge/326370-video-deadline-notice.html

yep, I know !


s.

Update:
neck didn't collapse under string tension ...

:lol: :shock: :mrgreen: :neutral: :roll: :smile: :twisted: :rolleyes: :cool:

Youtube movie:


A1S8bZDDHZQ


s.

http://th07.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2011/019/5/c/barney_stinson_sticker_by_elmagron-d37ltes.jpg

That's all I have to say! I didn't believe you could pull it off with that hollow neck! :!:

Some pictures:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01625.jpg


http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01619.jpg


http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01620.jpg


http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01624.jpg


http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01622.jpg



s.

I love harvest time.

Very cool , congrats :smile:

Outstanding job, man. What a thing of beauty! Sounds fantastic too.

Great sounding guitar. Looks like the fret board still plays kind of naturally in that configuration.

Very nice job Stijn. Congratulations!!

Ok, this is the post with video and picture.

A1S8bZDDHZQ


http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/stijnkenens/TDPRI%202012%20build%20challenge/DSC01624.jpg


In fact I don't want this thread to close, I want to read peoples thoughts about this guitar.

I'm gonna ask Paul about it.

thanks for the kind words, I have to play it and be sure the neck does not move ...


s.

Before the thread closes, my thoughts: Not my style at all, but nevertheless an intriguing and challenging piece of design. I'm a fan of the turned-plywood wiring channels, and of the organic nature of the inside of the guitar. I applaud your refreshing take on an old design.

WOW Stijn,

There is an airyness to the sound. It is just beautiful. That is the type of guitar that doesn't give you the normally expected tones but rather one you have to sit with and play for a long time to understand what it can do. A complex beast! I really like it!

Barnaster

I've got time to slip in it looks like! GREAT job!!! I think you've got both an awesome
guitar and a beautiful piece of art. Simply fantastic.

Ok, I have an account in this forum for a while now, but I wanted to wait for a good occasion for my first post.

Amazing build Stijn!

I followed it from the beginning, a very inspiring topic.
Do you take it to the next DGBM?

Very, very good! I love the visual design and the concept of fanned frets. How does it sound without an amplifier? Is it anywhere near a thinline, sound wise?

Haha, thanks !
If she didn't collaps, I will bring her !



s.

Incredible. I'm still totally confused by the construction techniques, which makes me appreciate it even more. Great work.

Very cool. I like the angle of the frets.

Incredible. I'm still totally confused by the construction techniques, which makes me appreciate it even more. Great work.

1.Thanks.
2. Me to, never thought it will work !
3. Vote for me :wink:
4. thanks.

Very cool. I like the angle of the frets.

You have to try one, I love it !




s.

I had the guitar tested by some people, they all love it !

It needs a little TLC after a few days now, but that's normal, I can live with that.

I think I have to go through with the hollow neck, really proud on that !


s.

The hollow neck is incredible.
I love the overall design of the guitar.

I'd love to see a strat built this way.

I think I have to go through with the hollow neck, really proud on that !


what about a patent?:razz:

The hollow neck is incredible.
I love the overall design of the guitar.

I'd love to see a strat built this way.

Thanks, a strat is possible, I think, but a trem for multiscale neck isn't that easy.
I know one where the luthier used a normal trem, and just fanned the frets out toward the nut.

what about a patent?:razz:

To expensive ...
And to late, it is already on the web. I don't care. A patent is only good when you have the money to defend it ! First lesson in school about patent and design rights !


s.

Wow, nice 8th place ...
Could be worse for a first time entry in the TDPRI challenge ...

You would see me again next year !!!


I'm also surprised there are 4 dutch speaking people in the first 15 winners, cool !!!

And of course: congrats to all the winners !


s.