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axedaddy's 2012 Challenge Build Thread -- COMPLETED

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nosmo
April 18th, 2012, 07:40 PM
The body sure looks pretty with the mineral spirits on it.

axedaddy
April 18th, 2012, 07:42 PM
The body sure looks pretty with the mineral spirits on it.

Thank you!

emoney
April 18th, 2012, 07:44 PM
Looking good, Axe. It's got a big belly like me!

axedaddy
April 18th, 2012, 07:47 PM
Looking good, Axe. It's got a big belly like me!

Thanks! I was afraid maybe I over carved it. But I guess if a little carve is good, a lot is better.

emoney
April 18th, 2012, 07:50 PM
Thanks! I was afraid maybe I over carved it. But I guess if a little carve is good, a lot is better.

The good thing about building your own, if you decide a week from now it's
too "tall" you can always whip out the sander again, and put it on a diet.
It's funny, I used to worry about imperfections in manufacturer guitars that
I bought over the years, but now if I'm "waffling" on something, I can just say
"Well, if I don't like it I can always change". Something about that is very
liberating.

axedaddy
April 18th, 2012, 07:58 PM
The good thing about building your own, if you decide a week from now it's
too "tall" you can always whip out the sander again, and put it on a diet.
It's funny, I used to worry about imperfections in manufacturer guitars that
I bought over the years, but now if I'm "waffling" on something, I can just say
"Well, if I don't like it I can always change". Something about that is very
liberating.

10-4 to that! That is why I didn't go through the grits and start finish today. I am going to sleep on it and see how it strikes me in the morning. I don't think I can ever buy another factory guitar, well maybe a Les Paul bfg, but that thing is already messed up :-)

axedaddy
April 19th, 2012, 10:49 AM
Not a lot done today. I just set the neck in the pocket then measured and marked for the bridge. I also drilled the bridge mounting holes and put a little countersink on them.

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RogerC
April 19th, 2012, 08:25 PM
The good thing about building your own, if you decide a week from now it's
too "tall" you can always whip out the sander again, and put it on a diet.
It's funny, I used to worry about imperfections in manufacturer guitars that
I bought over the years, but now if I'm "waffling" on something, I can just say
"Well, if I don't like it I can always change". Something about that is very
liberating.

10-4 to that! That is why I didn't go through the grits and start finish today. I am going to sleep on it and see how it strikes me in the morning. I don't think I can ever buy another factory guitar, well maybe a Les Paul bfg, but that thing is already messed up :-)
I'll add a big +1 to that. You know, Eric, it was you guys at the modding madhouse that is the Agile forum that got me into that aspect. That of course led to building them, which led me to here. :grin:

axe, that looks better and better every time I peek in on your thread. Keep up the great work!

axedaddy
April 19th, 2012, 09:52 PM
axe, that looks better and better every time I peek in on your thread. Keep up the great work!

Thanks Roger!

axedaddy
April 20th, 2012, 09:27 AM
Progress seems slow to me the last couple of days. This morning I beveled the fret edges with the Stew Mac file in a block of plastic. I will probably due the fretwork after I put the finish on the neck.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG537.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG538.jpg

I drilled the grounding hole under the bridge.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG532.jpg

Then I decided to fill the reference holes and screw hole. This was neither cosmetic or structural since they will all be covered by the bridge. I just didn't want them open. So I used the end of a drill bit to pack them tight with sawdust, flooded them with thin CA glue and put some sawdust on top. When I thought it penetrated enough, I hit it with accelerator and sanded smooth. Not invisible, but you can't feel them with your fingertips.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG533.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG534.jpg

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axedaddy
April 20th, 2012, 09:54 AM
Then I built this for my Beall Tool buffing system. Just a 1/2hp, 1725 rpm motor on a stand. Now I need to get over to by buddy's pskidder the electrician to wire up a cord and switch.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG540.jpg

axedaddy
April 21st, 2012, 09:32 AM
For my 12th fret side marker is decided to just add a dot underneath. I measured and marked, then used my spring loaded center punch to make the hole.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG543.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG544.jpg

Then I mixed up a little ball of this awesome stuff.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG545.jpg

and filled the hole.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG546.jpg

I will let this dry overnight and sand flush. The I will do final sanding on the neck and start the finish.

axedaddy
April 21st, 2012, 09:41 AM
I went through the grits all the way to 320. As I moved through each grit I would I clean it off and inspect. In a couple of spots I had to go backwards to get things just right. When I was done sanding I mounted it up and put it in the vise.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG547.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG548.jpg

Then I wiped on the first coat of this stuff.

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http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG553.jpg

I am not sure how many coats of this it is going to take, but I will block sand with 320 between coats to level it. For application, I just wiped it on with a paper towel.

adirondak5
April 21st, 2012, 09:47 AM
Sweet , man that looks good with the BC Sealer Filler axedaddy , probably gonna take a good many coats to get it filled but that stuff dries pretty fast and sands pretty easy , I think you can sand and recoat after an hour . I used it on an ash body once and got excellent results and I use it on figured maple necks all the time . :smile:

axedaddy
April 21st, 2012, 09:53 AM
Sweet , man that looks good with the BC Sealer Filler axedaddy , probably gonna take a good many coats to get it filled but that stuff dries pretty fast and sands pretty easy , I think you can sand and recoat after an hour . I used it on an ash body once and got excellent results and I use it on figured maple necks all the time . :smile:

Thanks Herb! This stuff does dry very fast. What grit did you sand with between coats? I was also wondering if I should use it on the neck, so I will, thanks.

axedaddy
April 21st, 2012, 06:41 PM
This is right after I applied the 3rd coat of Tru Oil sealer grain filler. I sanded with 320 grit in between. Looks like a couple more should do the trick. This stuff dries fast and builds fast. I just hope it doesn't inhibit the grain popping quality of the Tru Oil top coat.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/IMG554.jpg

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adirondak5
April 21st, 2012, 08:00 PM
Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner axedaddy , 320 is what I sand it with , the sealer filler pops the grain/figure as good as the Tru-Oil IMO , that's one of the reasons I use it on my necks before spraying lacquer.
Body is looking fantastic :)

axedaddy
April 22nd, 2012, 08:34 AM
Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner axedaddy , 320 is what I sand it with , the sealer filler pops the grain/figure as good as the Tru-Oil IMO , that's one of the reasons I use it on my necks before spraying lacquer.
Body is looking fantastic :)

No worries on the reply, its not like you don't have better things to be doing. Like strumming that sweet burst and drinking a mai tai:razz:

axedaddy
April 22nd, 2012, 08:43 AM
This morning I sanded the dot flush.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG557.jpg.3\

The I sanded the whole neck to 320 grit.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG558.jpg

Applied blue tape to the board.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG560.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG559.jpg

and wiped on a coat of Tru oil sealer/filler.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG561.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG562.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG563.jpg



For the body, I am on the 5th coat of sealer/filler. I think that will do it, but I won't know for sure until I sand.

adirondak5
April 22nd, 2012, 08:46 AM
WOW , that neck , I knew the BC would pop it good but that's like unreal good :shock:

kwerk
April 22nd, 2012, 09:26 AM
Beautiful timber, great shape, has it all. Love it.

nosmo
April 22nd, 2012, 09:29 AM
Wow - I liked the grain in the neck before, with the sealer on it the grain doesn't pop - it explodes! Beautiful.

esetter
April 22nd, 2012, 10:13 AM
That neck is looking great!

Allthesound
April 22nd, 2012, 10:31 AM
Man O man!! That is just stunning axedaddy! truly amazing wood. Love the carve you did too.

Davecam48
April 22nd, 2012, 05:20 PM
Great wood, great execution, I guess what I'm saying is "Well done Sir! it looks excellent"

RogerC
April 22nd, 2012, 05:37 PM
Everything looks absolutely stunning!

axedaddy
April 22nd, 2012, 06:57 PM
WOW , that neck , I knew the BC would pop it good but that's like unreal good :shock:

Thank you Herb!

Beautiful timber, great shape, has it all. Love it.

Thank you, I really appreciate it.

Wow - I liked the grain in the neck before, with the sealer on it the grain doesn't pop - it explodes! Beautiful.

Thanks! I was surprised by how much it popped too. I could not be happier with this roasted maple. I think I am going to raid my bank account and buy some more. This board was $15/ bd ft, but well worth it IMHO.

That neck is looking great!

THANKS!

Man O man!! That is just stunning axedaddy! truly amazing wood. Love the carve you did too.

Thanks! As I said before I was little worried I got carried away on the carve, so double thanks!

Great wood, great execution, I guess what I'm saying is "Well done Sir! it looks excellent"

Thanks!

Everything looks absolutely stunning!

Thanks Roger!

I really appreciate all the kind words, I have been watching all of your builds in awe and it means a lot to me to get positive feedback from such great craftsmen.

axedaddy
April 22nd, 2012, 07:00 PM
I was going through my parts and realized I had everything to do the hardware black, except the bridge. So I ordered one from GFS, along with a tweed HSC ( can't go wrong for 69.00) today. So what do you guys think???? Will the black look good with the TV Jones (there is black on them as well as chrome) or does it need to be all chrome????

BR06623
April 22nd, 2012, 07:12 PM
Really looking good! I love the neck, the carved body, the grain/character in the body, this is gonna be a unique, gorgeous guitar!

axedaddy
April 22nd, 2012, 07:32 PM
Really looking good! I love the neck, the carved body, the grain/character in the body, this is gonna be a unique, gorgeous guitar!

Thank you very much!

Mojotron
April 22nd, 2012, 08:29 PM
The beauty of that neck is unreal!

emoney
April 22nd, 2012, 08:37 PM
I like the idea of black hardware on this guitar. Should look stunning!

axedaddy
April 22nd, 2012, 08:39 PM
The beauty of that neck is unreal!

Thanks mojo! The aluminium work on your neck is outstanding, very original and creative.

axedaddy
April 22nd, 2012, 08:43 PM
I like the idea of black hardware on this guitar. Should look stunning!

Me too. Think it will go with the chrome of the TV Jones?

axedaddy
April 23rd, 2012, 08:06 PM
Not much to report. I have put 5 coats of sealer/filler and 3 coats of tru oil on the body. For the neck I have 3 coats of sealer/filler and 2 coats of tru oil. I will take some pics tomorrow.

axedaddy
April 24th, 2012, 08:03 AM
Here are pics with 5 coats of sealer/filler and 3 coats of tru oil on the body and 3 coats of sealer/filler and 2 coats of tru oil on the neck. I have been using grey scotch brite pads and #0000 steel wool between coats. I will probably do a couple more coats each.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG564.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG565.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG566.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG569.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG568.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG567.jpg

czook
April 24th, 2012, 08:10 AM
Great work. The finish is stunning. That guitar is going to speak for itself no matter the hardware.

RogerC
April 24th, 2012, 08:29 AM
That's looking really shiny. :grin:

rcole_sooner
April 24th, 2012, 09:13 AM
Wow, did the finish ever light that thing up!!! Very nice.

This is a recurring theme in my posts, but the necks this year are rivaling the guitar bodies. We could just have a showcase of the necks.

adirondak5
April 24th, 2012, 09:34 AM
Wow , just wow ! That looks great .

tehcnalp
April 24th, 2012, 10:01 AM
Beautiful work!

axedaddy
April 24th, 2012, 12:21 PM
Great work. The finish is stunning. That guitar is going to speak for itself no matter the hardware.

Thanks Chuck! I hope it looks as good when buffed :grin:

That's looking really shiny. :grin:

Thanks Roger!

Wow, did the finish ever light that thing up!!! Very nice.

This is a recurring theme in my posts, but the necks this year are rivaling the guitar bodies. We could just have a showcase of the necks.

Thanks! I agree about the necks. I was also surprised at it being lighter with the Tru-Oil.

Wow , just wow ! That looks great .

Thanks Herb!

Beautiful work!

Thanks you!

axedaddy
April 24th, 2012, 08:58 PM
I have anxiety with wiring, mainly because I can't tell if I messed up until everything is put together. But I moved forward. I grabbed this off of the TV Jones website.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG572.jpg

Took a piece of cardboard, held it up to the front of the guitar and marked the locations from the inside out. Put all the pots in and ended up with this.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG571.jpg

After what felt like hours of tedious cutting, stripping and soldering, I ended up with this. I hope it is correct.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG574.jpg

axedaddy
April 24th, 2012, 09:01 PM
On a finishing note. I picked up a Preval Sprayer today. Soooooooo.... because I can't stand not to try stuff, I mixed up some Tru Oil thinned with mineral spirits and shot a coat on. It is very shiny, but I won't know until morning when everything is dry if it was a success or if I will have to do some heavy duty sanding to fix it.

udimet720
April 25th, 2012, 01:35 AM
I have anxiety with wiring, mainly because I can't tell if I messed up until everything is put together. But I moved forward. I grabbed this off of the TV Jones website.

Took a piece of cardboard, held it up to the front of the guitar and marked the locations from the inside out. Put all the pots in and ended up with this.

After what felt like hours of tedious cutting, stripping and soldering, I ended up with this. I hope it is correct.



Looks good. The long black wire is going to be connected to the ring terminal right?

One question? Why all the extra length of wire. Just gets in the way once you install the controls.

axedaddy
April 25th, 2012, 09:55 AM
Looks good. The long black wire is going to be connected to the ring terminal right?

One question? Why all the extra length of wire. Just gets in the way once you install the controls.

Thanks! The long black wire is going under the bridge for ground and the ring terminal is ground from the jack going into the side of the control cavity. I guess that correct:confused:

As for all the wire, pretty much a desire not to get left too short and so my big catchers mitts of hands could handle everything. Like I said, wiring not my strong suit, but I guess it is like anything else, practice makes less sucky:lol:

bcarter_1
April 25th, 2012, 10:22 AM
This is awesome, can't wait to see it complete.

axedaddy
April 25th, 2012, 10:24 AM
This is awesome, can't wait to see it complete.

Thanks Brian!!

Mojotron
April 25th, 2012, 10:28 AM
Thanks mojo! The aluminium work on your neck is outstanding, very original and creative.

Thanks!

That body is awesome too. What an eye for grain you have! I wish we all could see eachother's builds in person.

axedaddy
April 25th, 2012, 10:44 AM
Thanks!

That body is awesome too. What an eye for grain you have! I wish we all could see eachother's builds in person.

+1000 on that! Thanks for the kind words. I am a little stressing about my attempt to spray tru oil, but we'll see. Nothing some sandpaper and elbow grease can't fix I guess.

OpenG Capo4
April 25th, 2012, 10:48 AM
Let me know how the Preval works for you. I found a local shop near me that had one in stock. I was thinking of picking it up and getting a few refills of the propellant and trying spraying some nitro.

axedaddy
April 25th, 2012, 11:00 AM
Let me know how the Preval works for you. I found a local shop near me that had one in stock. I was thinking of picking it up and getting a few refills of the propellant and trying spraying some nitro.

In my experiments with it last night, it seemed pretty stinkin' cool. At first the droplets were too big, so I thinned the tru oil with mineral spirits and then it sprayed fine. I may thin it more for the next coat. It is easy to clear a clog just by holding your finger over the nozzle and spraying, kicks it in reverse. I got up late this morning and did not have a chance to go into the shop before work to check it, so this evening will be the tell. I will let you know for sure.

junk mutt
April 25th, 2012, 03:48 PM
Both body and neck look stunning Axedaddy, that tru-oil is a wondrous thing is'n't it?
Me personally, i always wire the jack ground wire to the back of the volume pot, but I take it you're shielding the cavity to attach that ring thingy to?

plook
April 25th, 2012, 04:11 PM
What a beautiful guitar. That neck looks delicious, send me some offcuts to put in my cereal.

axedaddy
April 25th, 2012, 04:12 PM
Both body and neck look stunning Axedaddy, that tru-oil is a wondrous thing is'n't it?
Me personally, i always wire the jack ground wire to the back of the volume pot, but I take it you're shielding the cavity to attach that ring thingy to?

Thank you! Yes tru oil is pretty amazing stuff. As for the wiring, yes I am shielding the cavity with shielding paint. I wasn't sure if I was supposed to run all the grounds from the back of the volume pot, IE the bridge ground and the jack ground, and then run anther ground from the volume pot to ring thingy. So this is what I did, if it's wrong, I can still fix it.

axedaddy
April 25th, 2012, 04:13 PM
What a beautiful guitar. That neck looks delicious, send me some offcuts to put in my cereal.

Thanks Tom, on the way. I have them labeled Cheerios for customs:lol::lol:

Matt Haskins
April 25th, 2012, 04:44 PM
Wow, that neck and body together is going to be amazing. Can't wait to see this done.

axedaddy
April 25th, 2012, 09:54 PM
Wow, that neck and body together is going to be amazing. Can't wait to see this done.

Thanks Matt! I am pretty anxious myself. Your Telebacker is looking awesome as well, great work!!

axedaddy
April 25th, 2012, 10:07 PM
So this is the body after one shot with the Preval sprayer.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG578.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG577.jpg

It looked OK, a bit bumpy with some dust in it. So I decided to sand it pretty aggressively. I started with 320g and moved to 600 wet dry with a little mineral spirits for lube, then 1500g, then red scotch brite and finally grey scotch brite. It really smoothed the surface and gave me a nice level playing field. In retrospect, I should have use a grain filler, because it is not a completely flat smooth surface. I have some Timbermate coming, but I don't think I will sand it back that far now. But next time for sure. So once I got it prepared I thinned the tru oil a little more, strained it through a coffee filter into the Preval and shot it. I have to say, that little tool is probably the best $7 I have spent in a long time. It laid on a nice even coat, very fast, and easy. As far as I could see, no runs or sags. I don't know if I will wipe on Tru Oil ever again, it is that good. Here are 2 shots of the body directly after the spray.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG583.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG582.jpg

Same treatment for the neck. Lighting isn't that great though.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG580.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG581.jpg

RogerC
April 25th, 2012, 10:47 PM
Whoa momma! I didn't think it could get better. Apparently I was wrong.

dilbone
April 26th, 2012, 09:06 AM
now that is a nice TO finish...I can't wait to see it in daylight

axedaddy
April 26th, 2012, 11:19 AM
Whoa momma! I didn't think it could get better. Apparently I was wrong.

now that is a nice TO finish...I can't wait to see it in daylight

Thanks guys! I hope it turns out OK.

axedaddy
April 26th, 2012, 11:36 AM
My buddy pskidder the electrician and my schedule don't seem to be jiving. So I took matters into my own hands and bought a cord to wire up the motor. No switch yet, just a cord to plug in and unplug as needed. The switch will come later. It works great and I didn't even get shocked, blow a breaker or burn the house down.......yet.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG589.jpg

As for the Beall Tool Woodbuff system, BUT IT, IT IS AWESOME!!! Very easy to use and fast. This is the cavity cover, the back is plain like the front was, I did the wood buff system with no finish at all at it looks sweet.

Before:

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG585.jpg

After:

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG586.jpg

axedaddy
April 26th, 2012, 12:35 PM
I decided that the neck had built up enough finish and it was time for fret leveling and dressing. This is how I do it. I mark all the tops of the frets with a sharpie, level them with a radius block and 220g paper, then I use a piece of extruded aluminum with 320g on it to make sure everything is level and I go across the frets frets with it. Then I mark the frets again and use a crowning file in 2 grits from Stewmac. I also us this file to take of any sharp edges and roundover the fret ends. Next I wrap a piece of 320g around a piece of steel wool and rub the crap out of everything. This gets repeated up to 1500g then red scotch brite and grey scotch brite. Everything is smooth and ready for fret polish, which I will do later.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG590.jpg

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http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG596.jpg

Then I sanded the finish level neck level up to grey scotch brite.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG597.jpg

axedaddy
April 26th, 2012, 01:55 PM
I couldn't take it any more, I had to see if the neck would buff out good. I sanded everything level, so I thought anyway and used the tripoli compound to start the buffing process. It was quick and easy, but not painless. The buffing showed every piece of dust and imperfection in the finish. So I took it flat with 320grit and work up to #0000 steel wool and buffed. I had to do that a couple of times, the I moved to white compound and finally carnuba wax, but I have to say it was worth it. The neck is so smooth and fast, it is really astounding to me. It feels like butta! In the pics below I tried to show a bunch of angles in natural light. There is a couple of dings, looks like an eye may have torn out, that I will drop fill with some CA glue.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG598.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG599.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG600.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG601.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG602.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG603.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG604.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG605.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG607.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG606.jpg

As for the body, I found some sags on the front this morning. I ran out of time today, so tomorrow I am going to sand those out and decide if it needs more coats or is ready to buff.

plook
April 26th, 2012, 02:10 PM
Wow, that is truly amazing, but i knew it was going to be so. I love those dot markers on the edges. What conditions did you take the pictures in? I suspect it looks even better than the pictures are showing, more golden honeyed. Is this for yourself or someone. Incredible.

axedaddy
April 26th, 2012, 02:22 PM
Wow, that is truly amazing, but i knew it was going to be so. I love those dot markers on the edges. What conditions did you take the pictures in? I suspect it looks even better than the pictures are showing, more golden honeyed. Is this for yourself or someone. Incredible.

Thanks Tom! The pictures were taken with the little bit of natural light I get in my basement shop at 7:30am with my phone camera. I am not the best photographer, it is more honey colored. but it also lightened up quite a bit with final sanding and buffing strangely enough. This one is for me. I have had this Black Limba for a few years and was kind of waiting for a special project.

axedaddy
April 27th, 2012, 06:57 PM
Not much time in the shop today, trying to score this stack of mahogany for a good price. Probably 500-800 bd feet, in storage for many years. Hopefully I can make the dealio. This picture is half the pile.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/IMG610.jpg

When I was in the shop, all I had time to do was mask off the control cavity and get a coat of shielding paint on. Can says 3 coats minimum, 24 hours between coats, that could put a damper on my self imposed deadline of having everything done this weekend.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/IMG612.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/IMG613.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/IMG614.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/IMG615.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/IMG616.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/IMG617.jpg

RogerC
April 27th, 2012, 09:19 PM
Probably 500-800 bd feet, in storage for many years. Hopefully I can make the dealio. This picture is half the pile.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/IMG610.jpg
:shock: You know, I've always said that you were my favorite person on this forum :mrgreen:

axedaddy
April 27th, 2012, 09:24 PM
:shock: You know, I've always said that you were my favorite person on this forum :mrgreen:

Nice, just what I need, someone else that likes me just for my wood:razz::razz::razz:

R. Stratenstein
April 27th, 2012, 11:55 PM
Axedaddy, what a beautiful build. The neck almost looks like its illuminated from the inside.

(And unlike Roger, I'm not just saying nice things because I know you'll want to share some of your nice mahogany score with fellow builder-buds. For shame, Roger!)

axedaddy
April 28th, 2012, 10:50 AM
Axedaddy, what a beautiful build. The neck almost looks like its illuminated from the inside.

(And unlike Roger, I'm not just saying nice things because I know you'll want to share some of your nice mahogany score with fellow builder-buds. For shame, Roger!)

Thanks! I am very excited to get it done, but all the details just add up to time. Your build is looking awesome as well, nice work on the jigs too.

axedaddy
April 28th, 2012, 11:03 AM
I pulled the body down and checked the finish. A few sags and runs. Some sanding is in order. I sanded and sanded and sanded through the grits and ended up with this.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG618.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG619.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG620.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG621.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG622.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG623.jpg

I decided it needed at least one more coat, maybe two. One thing I noticed about spraying Tru Oil is that when it is thinned with mineral spirits in lightens to almost clear. It doesn't have that sweet amber tint. I wonder if turpentine would do the same thing. Anyway, I mixed up a batch a little thicker in the Preval, hung the body up and shot coat on.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG624.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG625.jpg

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http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG628.jpg

axedaddy
April 28th, 2012, 11:15 AM
I looked at the neck with a fresh eye and decided too drop fill the small pits with ca glue. I am a little concerned that I will never get done with the finish because every time I think I am done, I find an imperfection that I can't leave alone. Anyway, I scuffed everything down to grey scotch brite, then sprayed some accelerator over the pits, then dropped some medium CA in and hit it again with accelerator.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG629.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG630.jpg

Block sanded until I couldn't stand it anymore.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG632.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG631.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG633.jpg

When everything disappeared I scuffed it all and wiped on another coat of straight Tru Oil, to get that amber look. When dry I will check it again and and possibly do another coat.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG634.jpg

RogerC
April 28th, 2012, 11:32 AM
You'll never be sorry you took this much effort. I know it seems like it's never going to end, but the product you're producing is just jaw dropping.

axedaddy
April 28th, 2012, 12:26 PM
You'll never be sorry you took this much effort. I know it seems like it's never going to end, but the product you're producing is just jaw dropping.

Thanks Roger! Yeah I know it will be all worth it in the end, I just hoped to do the final assembly this weekend, but it doesn't look like that is going to happen.

axedaddy
April 28th, 2012, 06:17 PM
To start with, my sons cat got mixed up with a skunk. When my daughter, my son and myself did the tomato juice bath he went psycho when we started the rinse phase. He bit the doo doo out of us, punctured my right index finger clean through, same for my daughters wrist. My son got four fingers of straight through punctures. I should have taken the cue that it was enough for one day, but nooooooooooo, not me, I had to patch everybody up and head for the shop. As I started spraying my next coat of tro oil, the wire snapped and the body took a dive behind my work bench. I was wigged out!!! When I got it picked up there we several decent sized dents. 2 or 3 are going to be covered by the bridge but one was on the face and 2 on the edges were not. I was too angry and upset to take pics. Fortunately, my CA glue filling skills are in good shape. I hit each dent with accelerator, dropped some med thick in the dents, accelerated again, then sanded flush. I think the repairs will be invisible. $

Once I regained composer I opened up the box I got from Woodcraft today and got out the spray Tru Oil. It works good, less runs than the home mix in the preval. We'll see when it dries.

The only other thing I got done was to get my pickups ready for install. I took my favorite mouse pad and cut it to fit between the screw holes.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG635.jpg

And double side taped it on.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG637.jpg

This way when I screw the pups down, I have some height adjustment.

gitlvr
April 28th, 2012, 07:35 PM
Ouch! I love my cat more than I could possible tell you, but he might be buried in the ground out back, especially if he did that to my kid. Best wishes that all the bites heal up well and no one gets infections. Actually, with a cat bite like you describe, you really need to see a doctor. Cats can carry some nasty stuff in their bites. something to think about.

http://www.healthguidance.org/entry/11882/1/Dangers-and-Treatment-for-Cat-Bites.html

And don't worry about the damage. I think you've got the skills to "make it go away".

jstream
April 28th, 2012, 07:37 PM
Two words for that kind of job... Welding gloves!

axedaddy
April 28th, 2012, 07:48 PM
Ouch! I love my cat more than I could possible tell you, but he might be buried in the ground out back, especially if he did that to my kid. Best wishes that all the bites heal up well and no one gets infections. Actually, with a cat bite like you describe, you really need to see a doctor. Cats can carry some nasty stuff in their bites. something to think about.

http://www.healthguidance.org/entry/11882/1/Dangers-and-Treatment-for-Cat-Bites.html

And don't worry about the damage. I think you've got the skills to "make it go away".

Yeah I have to call the Dr in the morning to see if they can get us in, I just couldn't bring myself to go to the ER for skunk cat bite:lol:. The cat is super cool and laid back, almost retardedly so, he had been pretty easy for the bath up until the rinsing. So when he went freak show we were a little off guard, hence the damage. Oh well, if it happens again, he get a bath in a pillow case:razz:

axedaddy
April 28th, 2012, 07:48 PM
Two words for that kind of job... Welding gloves!

10-4 to that!!!

axedaddy
April 29th, 2012, 03:26 PM
Not a lot to report, just building more coats of oil. I decided to do a few more on the neck as well. I set up a chicken light with a 100 watt bulb to aid in curing. I will probably do 2 or 3 more coats then start the 48 hour cure time. Aerosol Tru Oil is better than thinned and put into the Preval. I will probably use this from now on. It sprays good and does run or sag. These pics are not good, but they give you bit of an idea of whats going on.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG653.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG655.jpg

axedaddy
May 1st, 2012, 10:59 AM
Not much happening other than waiting for Tru Oil to cure. I put the last coats on the neck Sun night and the body Monday morning. It is building nicely and should be ready to go tomorrow, I hope. In the mean time I have been making some progress on another build, but I am ready to have this one done. I feel like I should have been done a while ago.

RogerC
May 1st, 2012, 11:13 AM
Glad to hear that the aerosol TO is working. that's probably the route I'll take on my next build (walnut/alder).

photondev
May 1st, 2012, 11:38 AM
Sorry to hear about your cat accident.

That neck is so beautiful. I also have developed a love for carved teles :grin: - it came out great, specially the horns' inner carve

ugly_guitar_guy
May 1st, 2012, 01:00 PM
I actually picked up a spray can of TO from my local gun shop so I'm looking forward to spraying that instead of the hand rubbing method.

axedaddy
May 1st, 2012, 01:49 PM
Glad to hear that the aerosol TO is working. that's probably the route I'll take on my next build (walnut/alder).

I actually picked up a spray can of TO from my local gun shop so I'm looking forward to spraying that instead of the hand rubbing method.

I think I will only buy the spray Tru Oil from now on. It is super easy to use, does not dirty up a bunch of rags, doesn't run or sag and a coat goes on in seconds. I think you guys will be happy with it, I know I am.

axedaddy
May 1st, 2012, 01:53 PM
Sorry to hear about your cat accident.

That neck is so beautiful. I also have developed a love for carved teles :grin: - it came out great, specially the horns' inner carve

THANKS!! I wanted that dramatic carve effect, maybe a little PRS like :razz: but that is OK.

axedaddy
May 2nd, 2012, 10:32 PM
Got some time in the shop, did not get as much done as I would have liked, but I did make good progress. I wet sanded the neck with micro mesh up to 12000 grit using mineral spirits as a lubricant. Then I buffed it with tripoli compound and then white diamond compound. Came out like this.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG679.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG680.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG681.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG682.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG683.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG684.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG685.jpg

CraigB
May 2nd, 2012, 10:35 PM
That neck is unreal looking!

axedaddy
May 2nd, 2012, 10:44 PM
I got the water slide decal I got from jbennett ready.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG686.jpg

Put it on.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG687.jpg

It didn't stay, so I put on another. Then I got the out and got the nut slut ready.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG688.jpg

Put the nut in and marked it.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG689.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG690.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG691.jpg

Used the ROSS to take the meat off the bone, couldn't resist that one.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG692.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG693.jpg

Then I used 16" radius block the finish.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG694.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG695.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG696.jpg

Since I am using a zero fret, the nut needs to be the same height or a little lower before the slots are cut.

Then I measured an 1/8" in on each side and marked the slots with the Stew Mac nut ruler.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG697.jpg

Then I used a .010 nut saw to get things started and the appropriate sized nut file to cut the slots. I will fine tune everything in set up.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG700.jpg

axedaddy
May 2nd, 2012, 11:01 PM
Next I got the tuners out and ready for install.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG701.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG702.jpg

Lined them up straight.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG703.jpg

Got out the drill.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG704.jpg

Commenced installing screws.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG705.jpg

I stripped the last screw head. Broke my needle nose pliers and hand to run out and get some new ones. That killed a ton of time, but I had another screw and they are all in.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG706.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG707.jpg

axedaddy
May 2nd, 2012, 11:02 PM
That neck is unreal looking!

Thanks Craig!

RogerC
May 2nd, 2012, 11:09 PM
That looks fantastic! I like the black tuners, too. Good choice

axedaddy
May 2nd, 2012, 11:14 PM
This is the body after the Tru Oil dried.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG708.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG711.jpg

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http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG710.jpg

The I used micro mesh and mineral spirits to 12000 grit. Then I buffed. Ended up like this.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG712.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG713.jpg

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http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG716.jpg

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http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG719.jpg

hockeygoon
May 2nd, 2012, 11:19 PM
Turning out to be an impressive guitar. That neck wood is just :shock:

axedaddy
May 2nd, 2012, 11:23 PM
That looks fantastic! I like the black tuners, too. Good choice

Thanks Roger! I have all black hardware too, I think it will look cool:grin:

axedaddy
May 2nd, 2012, 11:24 PM
Turning out to be an impressive guitar. That neck wood is just :shock:

Thanks! I have been very happy with the roasted maple. I hope it all comes together OK.

axedaddy
May 3rd, 2012, 11:16 AM
I finished buffing and did a buff with carnuba wax. The finish looks pretty good. Because I did not grain fill (I didn't think the pores would be that open, won't do that again) it is not a glass finish. I does have nice shine, but it is more of an organic type thing with the pores showing. I like it, but next time I will grain fill at the least, and probably do lacquer on the body.

I am ready to bolt the neck on. Because the pocket is so tight I did not need to use a clamp to hold everything. I got the neck in the pocket and put the plate on.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG720.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG723.jpg

Got my drill bit depth set.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG721.jpg

Waxed the threads of the screws.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG722.jpg

and bolted everything together.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG724.jpg

Then I ran the ground wire under the bridge.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG725.jpg

and screwed the bridge in place.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG726.jpg

I got the pickup wires ran and the pickups in the hole, but when I went to screw them in, the screws are not long enough. I used quite a bit of compression rubber to act like a spring so I could have some height adjustment. I do not want to take it out because I like that versatility. So am going to have to figure it out. I will look for a longer screw today at the hardware store. I ran out of time this morning and it probably won't be until this weekend before I can get back in the shop, that sucks.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG728.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG729.jpg

nosmo
May 3rd, 2012, 01:38 PM
If you can't locate any longer screws, you could glue small blocks in the PU rout for the screws you have and trim the rubber a bit to clear them. Of course I suppose longer screws would be easier. Looks great!

axedaddy
May 3rd, 2012, 02:31 PM
If you can't locate any longer screws, you could glue small blocks in the PU rout for the screws you have and trim the rubber a bit to clear them. Of course I suppose longer screws would be easier. Looks great!

I thought about that, but I was really hoping that I could just get longer screws. Apparently there is no such thing as a #4 wood screw longer than 1" except for the ones that come from TV Jones. So in my search at the hardware store I came up with this. Wood inserts that go into a 1/4" hole and a 4-40 threaded machine screw goes into. I will mark and drill them next time I am in the shop.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG733.jpg

The odd screw is the original.

RogerC
May 3rd, 2012, 02:34 PM
Do you have a fastenal store anywhere close by? Google it and see becuase I had no idea they existed until someone pointed them out to me. turns out I have one very close to me. They have all kinds of oddball stuff. Probably one of my favorite places now.

axedaddy
May 3rd, 2012, 02:41 PM
Do you have a fastenal store anywhere close by? Google it and see becuase I had no idea they existed until someone pointed them out to me. turns out I have one very close to me. They have all kinds of oddball stuff. Probably one of my favorite places now.

Yeah I called Fastenal, there is one close, but all they could get it in was brass and it would be Tuesday before it arrived. So on with the inserts, I think it will be a more elegant solution with smoother operation.

junk mutt
May 3rd, 2012, 03:37 PM
Nice finishing Axedaddy. Love it.!

paulvcarter
May 3rd, 2012, 03:42 PM
Sweet

axedaddy
May 3rd, 2012, 03:52 PM
Nice finishing Axedaddy. Love it.!

Thanks!

axedaddy
May 3rd, 2012, 03:52 PM
Sweet

THANKS!

axedaddy
May 6th, 2012, 12:41 PM
Finally got back in the shop this morning to install my new pup mounting system. First I taped around for protection.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG738.jpg

Drilled marker holes with the pickup in place.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG739.jpg

and drilled a 1/4" hole.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG739.jpg

Repeated and screwed in the inserts.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG741.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG742.jpg

Put the pickup in works good.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG743.jpg

Same procedure for the bridge pup.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG744.jpg

axedaddy
May 6th, 2012, 12:57 PM
I got the wiring harness and pickups soldered in. I broke the bridge pup wire when I drilled the marking holes, so I had to splice it. No pics because I was too ticked off and I wanted to just get it done. But I did get it all done and it all works and it is quiet.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG746.jpg

Got the pots in.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG745.jpg

Knobs on

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG748.jpg

Jack in.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG747.jpg

Back cover on.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG749.jpg

nosmo
May 6th, 2012, 01:23 PM
Great idea with the inserts. Just another one of hundreds I have to steal :lol:

axedaddy
May 6th, 2012, 01:27 PM
Great idea with the inserts. Just another one of hundreds I have to steal :lol:

Thanks! Truth be told, I probably stole it from somewhere myself:razz:

axedaddy
May 7th, 2012, 12:56 PM
I got it strung up this morning. It plays awesome, and sounds good too. But I ran into a couple of issues. None of them were unexpected.

1st: There is a pretty loud hum that goes away when the tone knob is fully engaged. So I am not sure if I have a bad cap or a ground issue. Any ideas or thoughts? I will probably change the cap and check the ground just to be sure.

2nd: I knew using a zero fret may require additional down pressure from behind the nut, and that is the case. The end of the fretboard is also blocking proper down pressure. So I addressed these issues like so.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG755.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG757.jpg

I taped the headstock and fb off leaving only the offending area exposed.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG758.jpg

I then applied scrapage and sand sand paper.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG759.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG760.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG761.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG762.jpg

Then buffed:

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG766.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG767.jpg

The 2nd part of the issue is the down pressure. I knew I was going to have to use string trees and I am using staggered height tuners. So what I figured is to just swap the lowest height post with the tallest. This should give me a good enough break angle on the low E and A strings in combination with the string trees.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG763.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG764.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG765.jpg

Oh yeah, my waterslide decal came off with the blue tape. So now decal for this one I guess. Maybe I will just sign it with a sharpie.

RogerC
May 7th, 2012, 01:18 PM
Nice work on the fixes. And a signature on the back of the headstock in silver sharpie would look very cool. The Axedaddy sig series :grin:

axedaddy
May 7th, 2012, 03:40 PM
Nice work on the fixes. And a signature on the back of the headstock in silver sharpie would look very cool. The Axedaddy sig series :grin:

Thanks Roger. I hope the fixes work OK, I think they will, but we'll see. Yeah it will probably be sharpie time :lol:

motor_city_tele
May 7th, 2012, 04:01 PM
Oh yeah, my waterslide decal came off with the blue tape. So now decal for this one I guess. Maybe I will just sign it with a sharpie.

I like this idea - will either use a sharpie on mine or not have anything at all.

flatfive
May 7th, 2012, 05:55 PM
Nice work, axedaddy! That neck is especially awesome.

JBennett
May 7th, 2012, 08:21 PM
Axedaddy. I'll send you a couple more in the mail. But wait until you are done with everything else before you put it on!

:)

axedaddy
May 7th, 2012, 10:16 PM
Nice work, axedaddy! That neck is especially awesome.

Thank you! Your build is looking particularly awesome as well!

axedaddy
May 7th, 2012, 10:20 PM
Axedaddy. I'll send you a couple more in the mail. But wait until you are done with everything else before you put it on!

:)

Thanks for the offer. I have several left from the last order. Will the adhesive degrade with age? The one I used last year stuck amazingly well, but this is the 2nd one on this guitar. Same batch of stickers, same finish. They have been sitting in a drawer the whole time in the envelope they came in. Any thoughts?

JBennett
May 8th, 2012, 08:27 AM
I think they should be okay, but it's always a good idea to add a bit of glue to your water when you are applying the decal. Just few (5) drops to a cereal bowl of warm water will do it. Just enough so it makes it a tiny bit smokey at best.

Follow Colt Knights step by step for great results. (www.tdpri.com/forum/tele-home-depot/293920-new-toys-4.html)

And ALWAYS put a small puddle of your glue/water on the headstock where you will place the decal and then slide the decal onto that puddle and then gently smooth it out, press it down with a moist cloth or your wet finger. This will make sure there are no air bubbles and will give it a better grip.

I jumped the gun on my first decal too. Had to pick it all off and do it over because I hadn't yet finished the rest of the details on the neck and it got damaged.

adirondak5
May 8th, 2012, 10:09 AM
That is looking fantastic axedaddy , the finish on the neck and body is unreal :smile:

axedaddy
May 8th, 2012, 12:35 PM
I think they should be okay, but it's always a good idea to add a bit of glue to your water when you are applying the decal. Just few (5) drops to a cereal bowl of warm water will do it. Just enough so it makes it a tiny bit smokey at best.

Follow Colt Knights step by step for great results. (www.tdpri.com/forum/tele-home-depot/293920-new-toys-4.html)

And ALWAYS put a small puddle of your glue/water on the headstock where you will place the decal and then slide the decal onto that puddle and then gently smooth it out, press it down with a moist cloth or your wet finger. This will make sure there are no air bubbles and will give it a better grip.

I jumped the gun on my first decal too. Had to pick it all off and do it over because I hadn't yet finished the rest of the details on the neck and it got damaged.

10-4 Thanks

axedaddy
May 8th, 2012, 12:36 PM
That is looking fantastic axedaddy , the finish on the neck and body is unreal :smile:

Thanks Herb! The Tru Oil is pretty cool. Because I didn't grain fill, it is not glass smooth. I like to call it "organic":razz:

axedaddy
May 8th, 2012, 01:09 PM
This morning I got up and addressed the hum issue. I replaced the the cap on the tone pot and soldered the ground to the bridge. This seems to have done the trick.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG768.jpg

Then I put in the string retainers. There is probably a better than 50% chance that I will move the E & B retainer closer to the nut. If there is one thing I am confident in it is fixing holes.:lol:

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG769.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG770.jpg

I marked and sanded the nut to width, used some Mitchell Abrasive Cord to smooth the slots, polished it on the buffer and glued it on.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG773.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG775.jpg

I checked the intonation and set the bridge. It is super low all the way up the neck. Then I played it for 2 hours. Wow, the pickups are crazy good sounding. As for playability, if you have never played a guitar with a zero fret, which I had not before today, you are missing out. I am very impressed, I know this will sound like I am a dink, but it may well be the best playing guitar I have ever played.

What's left:

I will let it sit to settle in and readjust.

Change the strings back to the Black Diamond black coated strings, I love those things and they look cool.

The compression rubber under the pickups is not giving me enough adjustment. So I will pull them out and put surgical tubing on the machine screws. That should do the trick.

Make a video.

RogerC
May 8th, 2012, 02:18 PM
That, my friend, is one smokin' hot guitar!

axedaddy
May 8th, 2012, 02:22 PM
That, my friend, is one smokin' hot guitar!

Thanks Roger! It is no aggregate beast of tone, but I think I will like it.

alexlaguna29
May 8th, 2012, 02:34 PM
looking great!

junk mutt
May 8th, 2012, 03:15 PM
Very nice Axedaddy, looks beautiful. I too have never played a zero fret- looks like another one on the long list of "must do's"!!
Can't wait to hear it.

axedaddy
May 8th, 2012, 04:00 PM
looking great!

Thanks ! Yours too!

axedaddy
May 8th, 2012, 04:05 PM
Very nice Axedaddy, looks beautiful. I too have never played a zero fret- looks like another one on the long list of "must do's"!!
Can't wait to hear it.

Thanks Junk! The zero fret concept always made sense to me and I could never figure out why nobody used them. Then I saw a video demo of some Vigier guitars that have zero frets, the action looked even and fast all over the neck. So I thought I would give it a shot. So far I am glad I did.

Barncaster
May 8th, 2012, 04:31 PM
Hey Axedaddy,

An incredible build! I've had a jones for some of TV Jones' pickups for some time. They may be next on the hit parade. So how does the zero fret work? I don't get it. :confused: Also, can't wait for the video!

Barncaster

axedaddy
May 8th, 2012, 04:45 PM
Hey Axedaddy,

An incredible build! I've had a jones for some of TV Jones' pickups for some time. They may be next on the hit parade. So how does the zero fret work? I don't get it. :confused: Also, can't wait for the video!

Barncaster

Thanks, I am loving the Tvjones so far. I am using a classic neck and powertron plus (Ala Billy gibbons) in the bridge. My first guitar with them, I have another build after this using them as well, a spalted butternut tele.

As for the zero fret, instead of cutting a nut slot, you put fret there. The nut goes behind it and only keeps the strings in place. The strings set on top of the zero fret, just like using a capo. Offers very low action and good intonation. I really like it, just have to have good down pressure behind the nut.

Barncaster
May 8th, 2012, 05:01 PM
So then the zero fret would have to sit about .020" higher than the first fret?

axedaddy
May 8th, 2012, 05:21 PM
So then the zero fret would have to sit about .020" higher than the first fret?

Nope, same height, just like a capo.

BR06623
May 8th, 2012, 05:21 PM
Very nice! I like it very much. I am assuming that it is easier to do a zero fret than just a nut? I have an old Harmony with zero fret and the neck is nice to play on. I considered using the Harmony neck to pattern mine after but went with traditional instead.

I really like what you have done on this guitar, from the TV Jones Pups, to the carved body, to the string retainers. Very pleasing to look at.

Barncaster
May 8th, 2012, 05:36 PM
Nope, same height, just like a capo.

Really interesting stuff Axedaddy,

I hadn't thought of that. Normally string distance above the frets is a function of nut slot height, bridge height and any neck bow or fret unevenness. So technically if I didn't want to use the space between the 1st fret and nut, nut slot depth would be irrelevant and the 1st fret would become a zero fret? :confused:

Barncaster

RogerC
May 8th, 2012, 05:44 PM
Technically, that's kind of correct. You'd be playing an F instead of E when not fretting anything in your scenario though... unless you tuned to Eb, but then all your other fret markers would be off by one.

Barncaster
May 8th, 2012, 06:08 PM
Well guys, I'm going to have to chew on this for awhile. I'm having evil thoughts about my next neck now..... :twisted: Thanks Axedaddy, now see what you've done! Getting all OCD on this, must go read manically...

Barncaster

axedaddy
May 8th, 2012, 07:04 PM
Really interesting stuff Axedaddy,

I hadn't thought of that. Normally string distance above the frets is a function of nut slot height, bridge height and any neck bow or fret unevenness. So technically if I didn't want to use the space between the 1st fret and nut, nut slot depth would be irrelevant and the 1st fret would become a zero fret? :confused:

Barncaster

The best way I know how to say it is that when you use a capo, the fret is the nut. Same thing with a zero fret. Just like any note rings when fretted, the open notes ring. The nut needs to be higher because it not the exact size and shape as a fret.

axedaddy
May 8th, 2012, 07:26 PM
Well guys, I'm going to have to chew on this for awhile. I'm having evil thoughts about my next neck now..... :twisted: Thanks Axedaddy, now see what you've done! Getting all OCD on this, must go read manically...

Barncaster

Well good then.....mission accomplished :razz::razz:

I went through the same ocd information rage. What I found out was a matter of opinion, some said the zero fret needs to be taller, others said same height no problem. I decided that based on the use of the capo, same height same fret works. So I installed all the same frets, leveled and dressed them the same. I strung it up, addressed the fb issue and made sure there was good break angle / down pressure to keep the strings on the fret and it rings like a bell, plays like butta. That of course is my opinion based on my build experience. You will enjoy your next zero fret neck, I promise:smile:

axedaddy
May 8th, 2012, 07:29 PM
Very nice! I like it very much. I am assuming that it is easier to do a zero fret than just a nut? I have an old Harmony with zero fret and the neck is nice to play on. I considered using the Harmony neck to pattern mine after but went with traditional instead.

I really like what you have done on this guitar, from the TV Jones Pups, to the carved body, to the string retainers. Very pleasing to look at.

Thank you very much! I really appreciate your kind words. I still had to cut a nut, I just didn't have to be as precise with slot depth.

axedaddy
May 9th, 2012, 08:14 AM
This morning was breaking the guitar down.....again, to put the surgical tubing on the screws for better height adjustment. While I was at it I decided to sign my work.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG776.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG777.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG778.jpg

Pulled the pickup,

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG779.jpg

added tubing,

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG780.jpg

reinstalled.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG781.jpg

Repeat on the bridge pickup.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG783.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG784.jpg

Worked good, I do it this way from now on.

axedaddy
May 9th, 2012, 08:26 AM
I couldn't stand it, I had to move the E & B string tree forward. So I pulled the old one.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG785.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG786.jpg

Filled the hole with super glue, hit with accelerator and leveled. Put the string tree where I wanted it. Then I got out my decal kit for one go at a headstock sticker.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG800.jpg

Came put good, can't even the hole,now I just have to not mess with it for 24 hours.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG801.jpg

In the interest of full disclosure, I also strung it up with a set of black .009 strings. Didn't like it, so they came off. All I kept hearing as I took the who know how many sets of strings off was Jim Gafigan's voice " Well fella, you sure like the strings. Your just a regular stringer aren't you":lol:

axedaddy
May 9th, 2012, 01:28 PM
I remembered when I pulled the .009's off that I had not yet done my final fret dress and polish. So I scrubbed everything down good with #0000 steel wool and got out the good stuff, Autosol. This is the best fret polish I have ever seen, I have to go to Canada to get, but fortunately for me that is not that far. I just put a little on the end of a q-tip, dad a little on each fret and rub it out. Leaves a smooth mirror like finish.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG791.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG792.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG793.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG795.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG796.jpg

Then I hit the FB with some lemon oil, let it soak in good and took a few shots.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG805.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG787.jpg

anyone
May 9th, 2012, 03:01 PM
Looks fantastic, Mike!
I love the limba and wenge.

Thanks for the fertile ground for idea thievery here as well! (haha)

axedaddy
May 9th, 2012, 04:34 PM
Looks fantastic, Mike!
I love the limba and wenge.

Thanks for the fertile ground for idea thievery here as well! (haha)

Thanks Chris! I would say thanks about the idea stealing, but I am pretty sure I stole them all myself, so help yourself!
These are 2 of my favorite woods, you will enjoy them if you do work with them . Black Limba is getting very hard to find. Fortunately for me, I stumbled across one really nice 8/4 board that was 16" wide. It had been at the wood dealer for a long time with no interest, I guess because nobody knew what it was. I snatched it up and ended up with 4 one piece body blanks, including this one . So at least 3 more Black Limba guitars should come out of my shop, I hope anyway.

Dep
May 9th, 2012, 10:47 PM
Some great work Axe, that is a beautiful guitar.

Dep

Muzikp
May 10th, 2012, 01:39 AM
Nice work axe everything looks great.

adirondak5
May 10th, 2012, 06:12 AM
WOW ! Can't think of anything else but WOW!

axedaddy
May 10th, 2012, 08:17 AM
Some great work Axe, that is a beautiful guitar.

Dep

Nice work axe everything looks great.

WOW ! Can't think of anything else but WOW!

Thank you very much men, I really appreciate it!

axedaddy
May 10th, 2012, 08:29 AM
The sticker stuck and looks good. I put on a set of .010's on it and played and played. The action is good. I am off to make a video this morning.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG806.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG829.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG828.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG825.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG824.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG821.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG822.jpg



http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG808.jpg

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http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG811.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG814.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG815.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG816.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG817.jpg

pskidder
May 10th, 2012, 08:58 AM
The sticker stuck and looks good. I put on a set of .010's on it and played and played. The action is good. I am off to make a video this morning.



Über Sweet!!

RogerC
May 10th, 2012, 08:59 AM
Congratulations on a stunning build, axe.

CraigB
May 10th, 2012, 09:20 AM
That is freakin' killer! Up to this point, I've never seen pics of the back, it is every bit as stunning as the front. You probably posted some earlier that I missed, so I will have to go back through and read the whole build. "wow" is all I can say :grin:

well, I would make one suggestion that has NOTHING to do with your guitar, but ...those colored ball ends might be OK on a painter, but I think they sort of detract from the beauty of the wood, especially since it's a top loader.

Allthesound
May 10th, 2012, 09:24 AM
Wow that is really quite stunning! I love it and that neck has to be one of the nicest i have ever seen. I really can wait to hear this baby rip.!

rcole_sooner
May 10th, 2012, 10:13 AM
I love the whole guitar, but that neck is just killer!!!

kwerk
May 10th, 2012, 10:43 AM
I love the whole guitar, but that neck is just killer!!!

Absolutely. Never seen anything like it. Outstanding build!

axedaddy
May 10th, 2012, 01:20 PM
Über Sweet!!

Congratulations on a stunning build, axe.

Thank you very much!

axedaddy
May 10th, 2012, 01:22 PM
That is freakin' killer! Up to this point, I've never seen pics of the back, it is every bit as stunning as the front. You probably posted some earlier that I missed, so I will have to go back through and read the whole build. "wow" is all I can say :grin:

well, I would make one suggestion that has NOTHING to do with your guitar, but ...those colored ball ends might be OK on a painter, but I think they sort of detract from the beauty of the wood, especially since it's a top loader.

Thank you very much, I really appreciate it! I agree with the ball ends, but they were what I had on hand and I wanted to get it done.

axedaddy
May 10th, 2012, 01:24 PM
Wow that is really quite stunning! I love it and that neck has to be one of the nicest i have ever seen. I really can wait to hear this baby rip.!

I love the whole guitar, but that neck is just killer!!!

Absolutely. Never seen anything like it. Outstanding build!

Thank you! I was very fortunate to get such a nice piece of lumber.

Barncaster
May 10th, 2012, 02:07 PM
Just beautiful Axedaddy!

That neck is one in a million! So when do we get to hear it?

Barncaster

axedaddy
May 10th, 2012, 02:12 PM
Just beautiful Axedaddy!

That neck is one in a million! So when do we get to hear it?

Barncaster

Thanks! Video coming this evening, already been shot.

axedaddy
May 10th, 2012, 04:31 PM
So after every build I like to contemplate what I learned, will change or have observed as I went along. My partners in the corporate world I believe refer to these as "take aways". So these are my deep thoughts on this build:

* The quality, ingenuity, creativity, caring and openness of this forum and the group of guys involved in it is unlike anything I have ever seen. It is an honor to be a part of it.

* Building guitars can help ease the pain of tragedy.

* Getting a gloss finish with Tru Oil is not easy. It certainly is much more difficult than a satin or patina finish. Although Tru Oil and I are still friends, I will be seeing others. In fact I have a date with Deft Lacquer on my next build.

* TV Jones pups are the bomb diggity! Worth every penny and now on my list of favorites.

* Zero frets are underutilized and are very, very cool. Playability is off the charts when using one. I will incorporate them in the majority of my builds in the future.

* Carved tops are much easier to do than I thought. Also harder to sand as well as very rewarding.

* Soldering and wiring is not the devil. I have done it for years, but never made myself a student of it. That has changed.

* 1 3/4" nut widths are pretty awesome. Especially for a guy like me with big huge catchers mitts for hands.

* I will buy as much roasted birdseye maple as I can afford.

* I want to wind my own pickups in the near future. Will probably buy Jason Lollars book.

* Although these GFS staggered height tuners are OK, when I run out of them, I think I am sticking to Sperzels.

* For anyone thinking about doing a build, but is worried (insert Rob Schneider voice) "You can doooo iiiitttt".

Barncaster
May 10th, 2012, 04:38 PM
Amen.

axedaddy
May 10th, 2012, 05:12 PM
Here is my video and the specs are as follows:

1 piece carved top black limba body.

25.5" scale, roasted birdseye maple neck, with zero fret, bone nut, 16" radius, Dunlop 6105 frets, 1 3/4" nut width

Wenge fretboard and cavity cover.

TV Jones Classic neck pickup and TV Jones Powertron Plus bridge pickup.

1 Volume, 1 Tone 500k CTS pots. 3- way switch, switch craft jack and electrosocket.

All finished with Tru Oil

Wilkinson 3 saddle compensated cut bridge.

4XmHPCcBAAM

and the glamor shot.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/axedaddy1/2012%20tdpri%20challenge/IMG829.jpg

Barncaster
May 10th, 2012, 07:49 PM
Yeeeee Haaaaa Axedaddy!

That sounds incredible! Super well done. I've got to get me a set of those pickups.

Rob

axedaddy
May 10th, 2012, 07:52 PM
Yeeeee Haaaaa Axedaddy!

That sounds incredible! Super well done. I've got to get me a set of those pickups.

Rob

Thanks Rob! I can't recommend them enough, they cover a lot of ground and look cool too. :grin:

JBennett
May 10th, 2012, 08:44 PM
Looks good, sounds great! Well done. Great documentation too. This has been a fun thread.

axedaddy
May 10th, 2012, 09:14 PM
Looks good, sounds great! Well done. Great documentation too. This has been a fun thread.

Thanks! The 3rd time was the charm on the headstock decal :-)

fretman_2
May 10th, 2012, 09:28 PM
That tru oil finish is to die for!! Nice job on on the build and nice playing too.

axedaddy
May 10th, 2012, 09:30 PM
That tru oil finish is to die for!! Nice job on on the build and nice playing too.

Thank you fretman_2 , I really appreciate it!

Allthesound
May 10th, 2012, 09:52 PM
Man that is such a nice guitar Mike! Good job on the video its sounds great, love those pickups too and that neck!! Congrats on a sweet build now you can relax and enjoy.

axedaddy
May 10th, 2012, 10:20 PM
Man that is such a nice guitar Mike! Good job on the video its sounds great, love those pickups too and that neck!! Congrats on a sweet build now you can relax and enjoy.

Thanks Steve! It has been a great competition. Don't be surprised if you see me build a guitar with an inlayed faux pick guard (knowing me, I would probably use wenge) in the future. Thats good stuff right there, I don't care who you are :-)

hockeygoon
May 10th, 2012, 11:57 PM
Mike, you rocked that bad boy! :twisted: Sounds sweet and a very impressive build and versatile sound.

wormgear
May 11th, 2012, 12:10 AM
Hey Mike -

Glad to have witnessed the transformation of this real work of art you've created here. You are a true craftsman!

Now that you've mastered the luthier trade, and there are no more distractions (hehe) can you now get "on to the next one"? Say something like a "butternut/spalted maple tele" hiding somewhere nearby on TDPRI?
The epoxy binding and the sculpting is sweet on that one too. And with a slightly different set of TVJones pickups and the Schaller bridge, I really want to hear which one will resonate more when that one is finished! Might have to get a zero fret neck for that one, too, though.... ;)

By the way, nice to see the new Yamaha THR-10 in this demo video - leave it to you to be on the cutting edge...

Just one last request? Put something in your videos to indicate scale. No, not that scale. Scale as in dimension. That thing looks like a tiny mandolin in your catcher size mitts. :razz:

Again, awesome job, Mike! You are in the running for sure. And that's saying something, in this crowd .... man, what a year on TDPRI !!

GW

RogerC
May 11th, 2012, 09:28 AM
WOOT! That's an incredibly versatile, beautiful guitar right there. Congrats!

axedaddy
May 11th, 2012, 10:32 AM
Mike, you rocked that bad boy! :twisted: Sounds sweet and a very impressive build and versatile sound.

Thanks! I will be saying the same to you in next years build:razz::razz:

axedaddy
May 11th, 2012, 10:34 AM
Hey Mike -

Glad to have witnessed the transformation of this real work of art you've created here. You are a true craftsman!

Now that you've mastered the luthier trade, and there are no more distractions (hehe) can you now get "on to the next one"? Say something like a "butternut/spalted maple tele" hiding somewhere nearby on TDPRI?
The epoxy binding and the sculpting is sweet on that one too. And with a slightly different set of TVJones pickups and the Schaller bridge, I really want to hear which one will resonate more when that one is finished! Might have to get a zero fret neck for that one, too, though.... ;)

By the way, nice to see the new Yamaha THR-10 in this demo video - leave it to you to be on the cutting edge...

Just one last request? Put something in your videos to indicate scale. No, not that scale. Scale as in dimension. That thing looks like a tiny mandolin in your catcher size mitts. :razz:

Again, awesome job, Mike! You are in the running for sure. And that's saying something, in this crowd .... man, what a year on TDPRI !!

GW

Thanks Greg, yes your guitar is next. It is on the bench now waiting for the FB to be trimmed and the neck carved. I will post updates in the build thread asap.

axedaddy
May 11th, 2012, 10:35 AM
WOOT! That's an incredibly versatile, beautiful guitar right there. Congrats!

Thanks Roger! That means a lot to me coming from a fellow refugee from the cell phone industry that builds rock monsters:razz::razz:

repeatofender
May 11th, 2012, 10:39 AM
Great job!

adirondak5
May 11th, 2012, 10:44 AM
Fantastic Mike , beautiful guitar , sounds great :)

BR06623
May 11th, 2012, 10:44 AM
Excellent Axedaddy! What a beautiful guitar. It sounds great and the playing is really good too. You can post more videos anytime, just make them lessons for me!

rcole_sooner
May 11th, 2012, 11:09 AM
Nice video and playing! That thing sounds great!

Edit: LOL! Squealie goodness!!!

axedaddy
May 11th, 2012, 01:25 PM
Great job!

Thanks You!

Fantastic Mike , beautiful guitar , sounds great :)

Thanks Herb, it was an awesome build comp!

Excellent Axedaddy! What a beautiful guitar. It sounds great and the playing is really good too. You can post more videos anytime, just make them lessons for me!

Thanks!

Nice video and playing! That thing sounds great!

Edit: LOL! Squealie goodness!!!

Thanks! I have to say, I was pretty surprised that those TV Jones would pop pick harmonics like that, in the neck and bridge position. I am loving them.

anyone
May 11th, 2012, 02:28 PM
Mike!
That sounds AWESOME!

Muzikp
May 11th, 2012, 02:41 PM
Yep - that right there is a killer guitar with great tone. Looks like it plays real sweet too. Nice work all around.

axedaddy
May 11th, 2012, 03:00 PM
Mike!
That sounds AWESOME!

Yep - that right there is a killer guitar with great tone. Looks like it plays real sweet too. Nice work all around.

Thanks men!

dannyp8262
May 11th, 2012, 06:49 PM
Such an EXCELLENT guitar!!! Great job!!! I love the sound especially the neck pickup!! Rich and jazzy!!!

axedaddy
May 11th, 2012, 06:56 PM
Such an EXCELLENT guitar!!! Great job!!! I love the sound especially the neck pickup!! Rich and jazzy!!!

Thanks very much!

axedaddy
May 12th, 2012, 10:12 AM
I am emailing in to close the thread and mark it as complete. Thanks to TDPRI and everyone that has been following. It was an honor to be apart of this challenge and I have seen some AMAZING guitars and craftsman.

axedaddy
May 16th, 2012, 12:56 PM
Quick update: Been playing the guitar everyday and I am liking it more all the time. It is really breaking in well. The finish is also getting like a luster to it that makes you want to touch it. Very slippery and soft feeling. Does that make sense?? I will also try to get some better glamor shots that are in focus as well.

ROCK ON!!

Barncaster
May 16th, 2012, 12:58 PM
Quick update: Been playing the guitar everyday and I am liking it more all the time. It is really breaking in well. The finish is also getting like a luster to it that makes you want to touch it. Very slippery and soft feeling. Does that make sense?? I will also try to get some better glamor shots that are in focus as well.

ROCK ON!!

I'm noticing the same things as is Roger. :cool:

plook
May 16th, 2012, 05:13 PM
Really fantastic job here. Looks great and sounds amazing. I've really enjoyed following this, as i did last year.

axedaddy
May 16th, 2012, 06:58 PM
Really fantastic job here. Looks great and sounds amazing. I've really enjoyed following this, as i did last year.

Thanks Tom, it was a lot of fun, and I got my first (but not last) guitar with TV Jones, can't beat that!

BR06623
May 17th, 2012, 12:24 AM
I really like this guitar. It is so cool! Great job on the guitar and video.

axedaddy
May 17th, 2012, 12:52 PM
I really like this guitar. It is so cool! Great job on the guitar and video.

Thanks very much! Your guitar turned out amazing!

wormgear
May 21st, 2012, 06:55 PM
Hey everybody,

Let me tell you, this is one impressive build. You should hear it in person. Have a peek over at the next one that Mike is building for me:

http://www.tdpri.com/forum/tele-home-depot/274551-next-one-butternut-spalted-maple-tele.html

Can't wait to compare with the Black Limba. Also carries TVJones pups (a step towards a cleaner sound, with the Magnatron in the neck and the Powertron in the bridge; also a Schaller bridge), but can't wait to hear them both side by side. Wowzers it's lookin' nice! :shock:
HURRY MIKE HURRY... I know, I know, quality takes time.... :lol:

GW

axedaddy
May 22nd, 2012, 01:53 PM
Hey everybody,

Let me tell you, this is one impressive build. You should hear it in person. Have a peek over at the next one that Mike is building for me:

http://www.tdpri.com/forum/tele-home-depot/274551-next-one-butternut-spalted-maple-tele.html

Can't wait to compare with the Black Limba. Also carries TVJones pups (a step towards a cleaner sound, with the Magnatron in the neck and the Powertron in the bridge; also a Schaller bridge), but can't wait to hear them both side by side. Wowzers it's lookin' nice! :shock:
HURRY MIKE HURRY... I know, I know, quality takes time.... :lol:

GW

Thanks G....I am going as fast as I can:razz::razz: