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Rock and Roll Girls

Fenderfiend
March 2nd, 2012, 07:43 PM
Okay, first I'll need to switch to a black pickguard.

Second, I need to learn this song:

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Markdett
March 2nd, 2012, 07:47 PM
Nice, looks like Duck Dunn on bass. Dunno who the saxman is, but, he's got it groovin'.

nattaruk
March 2nd, 2012, 08:00 PM
Is that one of the new Modern Player Tele Pluses he's playing?

Fenderfiend
March 2nd, 2012, 08:07 PM
I don't know, but it looks a lot like mine (saddles, etc) with a black PG.

The black is starting to grow on me...

edit: plus the reversed control plate that I'm thinking about.

Joe M
March 2nd, 2012, 08:09 PM
Albert Lee sitting on the drum riser....

Fenderfiend
March 2nd, 2012, 08:30 PM
It looks pretty straight forward to play...

BWNadeau
March 2nd, 2012, 08:40 PM
Amazing singer, writer, player, and he can fly the Millenium Falcon...punch it, Chewie.:mrgreen:

Fenderfiend
March 2nd, 2012, 08:44 PM
Act o' congress to get this...

e23589
March 2nd, 2012, 08:45 PM
Seen him twice and would go see him again!

James J LaRue
March 2nd, 2012, 09:14 PM
Lots of amps on set, wonder which he's usin...I heard he was a Kustom guy originally.

BWNadeau
March 2nd, 2012, 09:22 PM
That chord progression has the changes way too early.

Fenderfiend
March 2nd, 2012, 09:56 PM
That chord progression has the changes way too early.

It may have gotten screwed up during the "act of congress"...

Let me look some more and try again.

(or if you or someone else could help me out, I'd appreciate it.)

Fenderfiend
March 2nd, 2012, 10:01 PM
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(nah, that's not it either)

Gnobuddy
March 2nd, 2012, 10:14 PM
It may have gotten screwed up during the "act of congress"...

Let me look some more and try again.

This may be the quintessential super-simple I - IV - V song. It seems to be pretty much two bars of G, one of C, one of D, and repeat the whole four-bar progression over and over and over for ever and a day through the entire song.

Like this: |:G///|G///|C///|D///:| <-repeat until bored

Unless you (or your vocalist) has a sky-high tenor, this song is probably going to get sung an octave lower than the original. Man, this dude has a high voice!

-Gnobuddy

Fenderfiend
March 2nd, 2012, 10:37 PM
I know it's a simple I - IV - V (not even a bridge - "Where's that confounded bridge?")....
the question was in the timing.

"That chord progression has the changes way too early."

BWNadeau
March 2nd, 2012, 11:07 PM
Watchin a movie with the missus right now - I'll type it up after.

Gnobuddy
March 2nd, 2012, 11:22 PM
I know it's a simple I - IV - V (not even a bridge - "Where's that confounded bridge?")....
the question was in the timing.

Just to be clear, I'm just trying to help...not to put down the song or anything like that. If you just play two bars of G, one of C, one of D, keep repeating at the tempo of the song, and sing along, I think you'll find the correct timing without trying. At least I didn't notice any fancy stuff with the vocal timing, it all seems to lines up pretty solidly with the beat.

Last Sunday my wife sang Joan Baez' "Diamonds & Rust" while I accompanied her on (nylon-string) guitar. Man, the timing in that song is all over the place - some of the lyrics are short and simple little lines, others are really long and you can barely squeeze them in. On top of that the guitar part is syncopated, with all the accents on the "wrong" beats. I don't know how on earth Ms. Baez manages to sing and play that song at the same time - no way on earth could I do that!

-Gnobuddy

BWNadeau
March 2nd, 2012, 11:37 PM
Sorry - just typed it all, but the post text boxes srews it all up.

Canuckcaster
March 2nd, 2012, 11:48 PM
This looks easy enough that I might be able to play it. Cool song.

CC

Fenderfiend
March 3rd, 2012, 12:51 AM
Just to be clear, I'm just trying to help...not to put down the song or anything like that.

I didn't take it wrong at all -any help is appreciated.

It's a simple song with mostly down-strumming (with an occasional up stroke).
He's using barre chords, but my first position chords sound closer to the way he sounds.

Gnobuddy
March 3rd, 2012, 03:44 PM
I didn't take it wrong at all -any help is appreciated.

Great, I'm glad. I didn't want you to think I was being intentionally rude to you. Over the Internet you can't see the other persons body language or hear his tone of voice, and quite often this causes ruffled feathers when no offence was intended.

Anyhoo, I typed out the first couple of lines with the chord symbols lined up over the lyric syllables where they fall. It's attached as a pdf, so the symbols won't get moved around by the forum software.

Hopefully this will help - once you get those two first lines, the rest of the song goes exactly the same way, with no rhythmic or melodic or tonal variation at all. Even the chorus appears to be exactly the same as the verse. There isn't even a bridge, as you said earlier.

Structurally this is a very simple song. I think what makes the song interesting is that this is a good singer - he puts a lot of energy into the vocals, and sings at a very high pitch - up in the female alto range. Our brains are programmed to pay attention to this sort of high-pitched vocals - think about your response if you hear someone scream. So without knowing why, we pay attention to the song, even though it's very simple and very repetitive.

He's using barre chords, but my first position chords sound closer to the way he sounds.
I think the most important thing is to play it the way you feel is most comfortable and most natural for you. IMHO there's no point in trying to reproduce exactly what John Fogarty did - a 99 cent mp3 download will do that much better than you, or I, or any human can!

But you can do something that mp3 and John Fogarty can't do - bring your own energy and feel and emotions to the song! There is some reason why this song struck a chord (no pun intended) with you, so run with those personal feelings, and put that into the way you play the song. That way your performance will be more fulfilling for you, more honest, and more compelling to any audience you play for. You will make the song your own, instead of trying to create a zombie by re-awakening the corpse of John Fogerty's song.

Speaking of audiences, our two cats make a lousy audience, let me tell you, and our dog is worse - he wants to howl every time I hit a high note. Bloody music critics everywhere you look! :mad: :mrgreen:

-Gnobuddy

Gnobuddy
March 5th, 2012, 12:50 AM
I just noticed that if you click on "Go Advanced" at the bottom of the window where you compose your post, you'll get an icon at the top with a (#) mark - this puts CODE symbols around any text you post, and that should preserve the horizontal alignment of all the symbols. That's what a code block is supposed to do, preserve all the raw ASCII text formatting.

But it doesn't! Apparently on this forum even code blocks don't use monospaced fonts, so chord symbols and lyrics get out of alignment. That's definitely a bug in the forum software. And I don't see any choice of fonts, so we can't choose a monospaced font to fix the problem.

For now, attaching a PDF, or worse an image file, seems to be the only way to do it right on this forum.

-Gnobuddy