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I Never use chorus effect in P&W

GeetarPlayer
February 24th, 2012, 01:33 PM
I would have never guessed this, but after playing lead for P&W for a couple years, I cannot believe I've never heard a chorus pedal being used in a song. Talking about Lincoln, Hillsong, Tomlin, Elevation etc - you know the list. Am I missing it?

still_fiddlin
February 24th, 2012, 01:58 PM
These things come and go in cycles, and this is probably low tide for that effect.

I have it on one patch, somewhere, but can't say when I would use it - just when I want to thicken things a bit and that's the patch I have selected. On another patch it might be tremolo, uni-vibe, phaser, whatever. Save some obvious tremolo usage, these are usually set for pretty subtle effects. If there's multiple guitars, or endless delay, as in a lot of CCM, it's not going to do much but muddy things, IMO, so that light is off.

I do pack that pedal with me if I'm playing acoustic.

mrboson
February 24th, 2012, 03:24 PM
Same here. That one stays off for me except when I play the acoustic, then it is just a smidgeon.

I liked chorus a lot in the 80's....

CAAD8N8
February 24th, 2012, 04:54 PM
I used to use one with a delay pedal for pretty sounding clean parts. Now I use a modulated analog delay, so I sold the chorus off.

MonkeyKing
February 24th, 2012, 04:58 PM
Whew -glad to hear it. for years you`d see that as the ONLY effect.

Parma_TeleMon
February 24th, 2012, 09:56 PM
I'm thinking about getting one mostly for acoustic, but it could sound sweet on clean electric parts as well. Or the 80's hair band tone I've been known to pull out from time to time.

mrSlush50
February 24th, 2012, 10:51 PM
Chorus has it's place, although currently that place is not on my pedal board. I do love the chorus that's built into my acoustic amp though.

ZSmith85
February 25th, 2012, 12:54 AM
I think nowadays, alot of guys are using more "modulation delay" than chorus. You get a similar effect, but it isn't quite as prominent. Rock on, fellow worshippers!

livinblood
February 25th, 2012, 01:54 AM
I've never used chorus. I use to play dry, then I got a delay and thats when the pedal addiction started. But still no chorus, don't like it.

BuckyB
February 25th, 2012, 02:10 AM
I still use it quite a bit. I tend to turn it on on the chorus (no pun intended) and turn it off during the verse. I'm the only guitar player on our small team, so it helps me get a bigger sound when needed.

Tuto103
February 25th, 2012, 01:54 PM
I still use it quite a bit. I tend to turn it on on the chorus (no pun intended) and turn it off during the verse. I'm the only guitar player on our small team, so it helps me get a bigger sound when needed.

+1
I still use it quite a bit... I play on a strat..and it makes the neck pick up fuller and a bit more interesting

tjalla
February 25th, 2012, 04:09 PM
I use the modulation setting on my DD20, ie so only the repeats are chorused. Gives a nice ambience without having that obvious effect on your dry signal.

SoVeryTired
February 25th, 2012, 04:24 PM
I use the modulation setting on my DD20, ie so only the repeats are chorused. Gives a nice ambience without having that obvious effect on your dry signal.

+1

It gives a great effect to some lead lines, e.g. intro to Hosanna. I have a Boss CE5 but only use it with acoustic guitar.

jazzrat
February 25th, 2012, 04:31 PM
I used to use one a fair amount. These days I'm using Eric Johnson's tone as my target rather than the Hillsong, U2, Coldplay'ish tone I used for so long. To that end I'm using a Strymon El Capistan which modulates a fair bit. On top of that I have just the least amount
TC Electronics chorus for a little extra shimmer. The chorus goes off for distorted tones.

Esaaal
February 25th, 2012, 06:09 PM
I have a CH-1 one my pedal board. I keep it "modest". I like it for the intro to "God of Wonders".

GoldieLocks
March 6th, 2012, 04:14 PM
I too am thankful that chorus pedals wore out their welcome. Who needs a mushy dreamy swirl that gets lost in the mix.

Just a bit of reverb and some overdrive more than gets the job done.

Allthesound
March 6th, 2012, 04:35 PM
The Resurrection Band used to make use of chorus from time to time. One of the best Christian bands ever IMHO Glenn Kaiser is one of the most underrated artists ever.

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Teleworshipkid
March 6th, 2012, 07:06 PM
I think chorus just sounds tacky. The worship leader hold the same opinion, and wont even LET anyone use it. I just use modulated delays instead.

I liked chorus a lot in the 80's....

Everyone did ;)

SamClemons
March 6th, 2012, 07:57 PM
I use just a little on distorted tone..very 80's but hey, I like it still. I don't care for or use delay on anything.

TheToneRanger
March 7th, 2012, 07:21 AM
I used to use one a fair amount. These days I'm using Eric Johnson's tone as my target rather than the Hillsong, U2, Coldplay'ish tone I used for so long. To that end I'm using a Strymon El Capistan which modulates a fair bit. On top of that I have just the least amount
TC Electronics chorus for a little extra shimmer. The chorus goes off for distorted tones.

Similar here - I have an El Cap so that adds a touch of modulation (I have a fav switch for two sounds, so I have little to no mod on my dirty sounds, and then add a little more wow & flutter to my cleans.)
I actually have 2 chorus pedals - one in my dirty rhythm loop and one run stereo in the fx loop of my amp. The one for dirty rhythm is a TC Corona chorus set to the John Petrucci Crunch Chorus print - it's less of a chorus and more of a "widener" - almost makes the guitar sound like it's doubled, but not in a "chorusy" way.
The other in the loop is a TC Electronics SCF - it's run stereo so you don't hear the modulation wave much, and I use it on cleans to add sparkle.
Sometimes I do kick it on with dirt to get that 80's Rush tone though. :mrgreen:

rokdog49
March 7th, 2012, 08:33 AM
I like to use chorus and delay effects, but mostly on my acoustic. Seems to extend notes and especially for single note arpeggios etc.

tjalla
March 7th, 2012, 08:38 AM
Glenn Kaiser - hadn't heard of him till this post. Can't say I'm a fan of the style BUT that is one heckuva voice.

jebbo
March 7th, 2012, 12:29 PM
I still use it quite a bit. I tend to turn it on on the chorus (no pun intended) and turn it off during the verse. I'm the only guitar player on our small team, so it helps me get a bigger sound when needed.

That's the opposite of what I do. I tend to use my chorus on the verse then turn it off and crank the OD for the chorus of the song. I'm the only guitar player too. It's hard to play Hillsong, Jesus Culture, etc. while being the only guitarist. I get by though. There was a point where our P&W band had two guitarists. It was nice to hand the solos to the other guy every once in a while. The way I look at it, the less people on stage, the better you can here yourself.

bawdyli'lmonkey
March 7th, 2012, 01:08 PM
In Nov, of 2009 I attended an Integrity Live worship conference to take our team to "the next level." They advised bands with more than one guitarist to not use chorus b/c its purpose is to make things fuller/fatter and it muddies stuff up to use chorus if there are other guitarists playing, especially if you get stuck in the same position on the fretboard.

If your band is like mine was, with an overplaying keyboardist who plays a bass line and chords and fills and some melody, 3 guitars - 1 who, with capo, plays every song in G or D and the other 2 trying to play to create other parts, and bass trying to do his job around the keyboardist doing it for him; chorus will definitely create some extra mud. Chorus, like delay, requires specific parted out arrangements to be effective.

rkwrenn
March 7th, 2012, 01:14 PM
Don't use Chorus at all. They always seemed nasally to me. I use a Boss HR2 set on detune. It's real subtle. Thickens things just a little.

Cheers

TxTeleMan
March 7th, 2012, 01:23 PM
The only effects I use are tremolo and my tube boost pedal. The boost can thicken my Tele really well. My trem gives me that "hypnotic slam effect."

ChickenKiller
March 7th, 2012, 03:57 PM
I have three overdrive pedals, and a chorus pedal... I use it on about 5 songs playing with lite overdrive on a couple of intros....

FenderBender01
March 7th, 2012, 11:58 PM
Not a fan of chorus. I'd prefer good tone.

Teleworshipkid
March 8th, 2012, 12:24 AM
Not a fan of chorus. I'd prefer good tone.

Ha! This comment made my day!

jackransell
March 8th, 2012, 03:10 AM
I play an electric mistress by ehx it's a chorus/flanger I love it! Adds a warm tone to my guitar when doing worship.

Duncas
March 8th, 2012, 06:38 AM
i use a chorus alot. especially for JC songs

adamjn
March 8th, 2012, 12:17 PM
I used to be big into chorus back in high school in the early-mid 80s, like a lot of folks who came up back then. My first, and best, was an EH Clone Theory. After that died, and some experimenting with some rack gear later on, I pretty much stopped using it. When I was using multi-effects, like the POD X3 or HD, I would always try to use it on clean patches, then shut it off. I don't hear much chorusing from anyone these days, but as someone said, things go in cycles. In the mid 80s, wah was considered passe.

black_doug
March 8th, 2012, 02:10 PM
Yup, I found I wasn't using mine. It was sold last month.

Parma_TeleMon
March 8th, 2012, 06:45 PM
Glenn Kaiser - hadn't heard of him till this post. Can't say I'm a fan of the style BUT that is one heckuva voice.

He did a couple of blues albums about 20 years ago. One was called Slow Burn.

I saw them back in '82, one of the loudest concerts I've ever seen.

Butch Snyder
March 9th, 2012, 09:58 AM
Back in the 80's, like most all the other players who came up then, I was using heavy chorus for everything; sometimes using two at once. Nowadays, I still use it for rhythm in a Rock setting and it's pretty subtle; much more like a modulation delay. I don't really use it for soloing anymore because I want my guitar's solo voice to be more singful and soulful. Now, when playing Country, I don't use it at all except for some ballady stuff.

I think, like most have said, it comes and goes in cycles.

SoVeryTired
March 9th, 2012, 11:12 AM
I'm now thinking of selling my chorus pedal, based on how little I use it. Or do I hang onto it until chorus becomes fashionable again and get a better price?

:lol:

Butch Snyder
March 9th, 2012, 11:20 AM
I'm now thinking of selling my chorus pedal, based on how little I use it. Or do I hang onto it until chorus becomes fashionable again and get a better price?

:lol:

I don't sell anything anymore. There have been too many times I have pulled something out of a drawer because I needed "it" for some occasion. It's always nice when you're in particular situation and find that that obsure amp, effect, etc would be perfect for the application and you can go to the junk drawer, pull it out and use it.

SoVeryTired
March 9th, 2012, 11:31 AM
I don't sell anything anymore. There have been too many times I have pulled something out of a drawer because I needed "it" for some occasion. It's always nice when you're in particular situation and find that that obsure amp, effect, etc would be perfect for the application and you can go to the junk drawer, pull it out and use it.

If we weren't trying to declutter the house at the moment I'd agree wholeheartedly! If I don't sell I need to find somewhere to hide it, along with the Morley volume pedal that I was given but don't use, especially as it takes up so much space on the board (okay, floor - but I'd have to get a massive board to accomodate it!).