More Logic Questions (Recording Guitar)

Ok, seems like I'm following directions for recording guitar with my Apogee ONE interface, I have it set up and it is recording fine it seems, but...the Apple drum loop (blue audio region) I'm using as my drum track is coming through the track where I recorded guitar, and no guitar. The guitar recording is playing fine on the playback BEFORE the drums come in, but again, once the drums come in the guitar can't be heard and the drums get really loud. And if I 'solo' the guitar track, it's all drums, but again, the guitar track plays fine in the intro, just not when the drums drop...I do everything I can to follow directions, but why is this happening...why is nothing simple? What am I overlooking or missing?

Received some helpful feedback with my last issues (thanks Scatman, Woodman etc) and this is the same track. Probably not anyone's cup of tea here, and there's no guitar on here yet, but I figure I'd share it at it's current state for reference. Any general critiques welcomed also, I'm new to mixing as well...so I'm open to any feedback/constructive criticism.

http://soundcloud.com/scooch255/farewellmix3

Ok, seems like I'm following directions for recording guitar with my Apogee ONE interface, I have it set up and it is recording fine it seems, but...the Apple drum loop (blue audio region) I'm using as my drum track is coming through the track where I recorded guitar, and no guitar. The guitar recording is playing fine on the playback BEFORE the drums come in, but again, once the drums come in the guitar can't be heard and the drums get really loud. And if I 'solo' the guitar track, it's all drums, but again, the guitar track plays fine in the intro, just not when the drums drop...I do everything I can to follow directions, but why is this happening...why is nothing simple? What am I overlooking or missing?

Received some helpful feedback with my last issues (thanks Scatman, Woodman etc) and this is the same track. Probably not anyone's cup of tea here, and there's no guitar on here yet, but I figure I'd share it at it's current state for reference. Any general critiques welcomed also, I'm new to mixing as well...so I'm open to any feedback/constructive criticism.

http://soundcloud.com/scooch255/farewellmix3

Usually this is something simple - but can be real PITA to figure out.

So, let's go back to the very basics.

Make sure your routing is where it should be. So, guitar plugged in, you have a track for it in Logic armed to record, you have the right input selected, input monitoring engaged (if you want). If you are monitoring the software output (probably - don't know if your software interface allows you to do otherwise) make sure that's selected.

If you're getting the LEDS reacting to what you're playing - then you're getting a signal there. But if you can't hear it, then we're on to a monitoring issue. Are the drums recorded over top of your guitar part? Once the drums come in, can you still see the guitar waveform? (Does it show up in the audio bin - I never use that, but if it was recorded, it should show up there unless if got deleted). Is there a solo or mute button pushed in somewhere?

And occasionally, Logic just does something weird. Save your work, shut it down and open it up again and see if that sorts things out. Sometimes you might need to trash your preferences files. Let's wait and see if you can get things sorted first without resorting to that, though.

Good luck!

Cheers,
Geoff

Hard to say what's going on. I know you've been getting familiar with Logic while you've been tracking, so I don't know if there was some user error(s) or a Logic hiccup as Geoff said.

It might be easier (and faster) to start a clean project while keeping the tracks (with automation) you've already recorded instead of trying to problem-solve this one..

Sounds like you only have four tracks so far (drum loop, piano, strings and guitar?).

You could start a new project (don't close the old one), and copy/paste each track from the original project to the new project (one track at a time while playing back to make sure each track works like you want before you add the new one).

Make sure you create audio tracks for audio loop tracks (blue), software instrument tracks for MIDI tracks/loops (green), and audio tracks for recorded tracks through your Apogee (like your guitar).

I think Scat is talking sense: since the track picture is muddled, bring them into a new song file. If you can isolate the tracks you want, do a Bounce In Place before saving and exporting (soloing each track beforehand so what you hear is what you get). Sometimes it really helps to eliminate the crapola and getting a fresh sense of what you're doing.

Most days you can whup the hoodoo, but some days the hoodoo whups you. That's when the RIP forum comes in handy!

Thanks guys.

I may not get to this till tomorrow, but I'll keep ya posted when I do.

Been busy and still haven't been able to sit down and work this out, but I did forget to mention one thing. Could the problem have something to do with the 'solo safe' function? There is a red line through the solo button on the drum track that I found out was 'solo safe' and it keeps coming back after I control click to remove it. Or whenever I record guitar. Doing a google search now, just figured I'd share this info.

I'm having a love/hate relationship with Logic right now.

I'm having a love/hate relationship with Logic right now.

As have many — I feel your pain! :mrgreen: ... Also had the love/hate syndrome with Pro Tools and Garageband before that. In PT, the solo-safe feature almost drove me mad before I figured out what was happening. It can definitely mess with your head and your tracks!

Control-clicking a solo button on a channel strip in the Mixer or the Inspector should toggle solo-safe off and on.

It keeps coming back tho.

Also, I'm trying to back track and think of mistakes I made...I kinda remember hitting the play button while recording, instead of stop...after doing that I remember hearing a spike in the volume of the drums. Did it accidentally of course, but I now kinda remember that being when my problems started.
The waveform of the guitar track is there throughout the track, but it's only audible for the first 9 bars (that's when the drums come in). After that I have the drums playing in place of the guitar track.

Something is deeply weird. Is retracking an option?

Something is deeply weird. Is retracking an option?

Might be time to trash the prefs.

Does anything change in the mute/solo status when you go from the no-drums to the drums in part?

I'd say if no- look up how to trash the prefs in the Nahmani book (it near the end, as I recall). And give that a try.

I've had to do it a couple or three times now.

Cheers,
Geoff