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dotted eight delay

guitar dan
January 25th, 2012, 04:43 PM
I know this has been talked about a lot, so my apologies if ya'll are sick of this subject.

I am new to playing in a praise & worship band, although I have been playing in bands for years. I need to get a delay pedal to do the dotted eight thing, but I am using my small pedal board for that gig....and I'm hoping to keep using the same one. I have a DD3 on there and I don't think I can fit anything bigger.

Which pedal would you recommend that is still that same size? ..or how much bigger is the Nova delay anyway?

Teleworshipkid
January 25th, 2012, 06:31 PM
DD-7. Exactly the same size (but you will need a tap pedal too!).

tonehz
January 26th, 2012, 01:54 AM
I played lead guitar on Awesome is the Lord Most High a couple weeks ago, using a DD-7 and dotted eighth note delay. It took me a couple hours to figure out how to do it, Level set high, Feedback set low, 800 ms, and played around with the delay setting until I got the timing right. I did it without a tap tempo pedal--I don't have one. I have the tab, by the say, in Power Tab Editor, if anyone is interested. It was a blast to play!

tjalla
January 26th, 2012, 02:10 AM
Doesn't the DD7 have the 'hold for 2secs' which turns the on-off to a tap function?

That way you can replace your DD3 with the same size, no extra pedal needed.

Teleworshipkid
January 26th, 2012, 09:40 AM
Doesn't the DD7 have the 'hold for 2secs' which turns the on-off to a tap function?

I think so. Just seems so inconvenient though. But I guess if you had NO room, it would be okay. You could put the tap on the ground though...

tjalla
January 26th, 2012, 11:02 AM
I think so. Just seems so inconvenient though. But I guess if you had NO room, it would be okay. You could put the tap on the ground though...

But who needs to turn delay off for P&W :mrgreen:

BigDaddyLH
January 26th, 2012, 11:22 AM
But who needs to turn delay off for P&W :mrgreen:

That made me larf.

Teleworshipkid
January 26th, 2012, 12:41 PM
Ha!

CAAD8N8
January 26th, 2012, 02:25 PM
DD5 is the way to go for dotted eighth delay. Yea, the tap tempo helps, but momentary switches are quite cheap and small.

guitar dan
January 26th, 2012, 03:23 PM
Is there an advantage of the DD5 over the DD7?....since they dont make the DD5 anymore?

BuckyB
January 26th, 2012, 06:16 PM
Echo Park is small and doesn't need a separate tap pedal.

gitold
January 26th, 2012, 06:57 PM
Echo Park is small and doesn't need a separate tap pedal.

+1 ...Line 6 echo Park is a great delay and does the dotted 8th real well.

Thighbanez
January 27th, 2012, 02:00 PM
TC Electronic Flashback delay...if you want to upgrade.
Smaller size...more features, plus USB uploadable toneprints!!

Teleworshipkid
January 27th, 2012, 03:43 PM
...plus USB uploadable toneprints!!

Or iPhone, right?

CharlesCapps
January 28th, 2012, 11:27 AM
Could someone please explain what the dotted 8th and tap pedal is in a language that and old man can understand, who has never used a pedal board. All of this is so confusing. I go to the manufacturer and they think you already have the knowledge to know what they are talking about. Thanks.

Teleworshipkid
January 28th, 2012, 05:14 PM
Could someone please explain what the dotted 8th and tap pedal is in a language that and old man can understand, who has never used a pedal board. All of this is so confusing. I go to the manufacturer and they think you already have the knowledge to know what they are talking about. Thanks.

Okay, here goes:

Delay is an effect that replicates the sound of your guitar, played back after a determined amount of time ("time"), for a determined number of repeats ("feedback").

Delays can still sound great even when the delay time is out of sync with the song's BPM. However, many prefer to have it on time with the song. This is almost impossible to do accurately just by turning a knob. Newer digital delays have a solution: the user taps along to the song using a tap tempo pedal (basically just a momentary switch, tapped to quarter notes, which runs back to the delay pedal), and the delay pedal "magically" sets the delay in sync with the time between each tap.

Though being able to have your delay synced to quarter notes (1/4) was an amazing feature, many guitarists wanted different, shorter subdivisions, such as eighth notes (1/8), one third of a quarter note triplet (1/12), or sixteenth notes (1/16).

One of these other subdivisions is a dotted eighth note (3/16- a dot after a note signifies 3/2 of the note's original value). So it looks like this:

1/4: |~~~o~~~o~~~o|
3/16:|~~o~~o~~o~~o|
1/8: |~o~o~o~o~o~o|

(sorry- the font lines up better on the iPhone app...)

When the user plays quarter notes, it gives the illusion of quarters and every other eighth. When the user plays eighth notes, it gives the illusion of sixteenths. It is a very cool, rhythmic, atmospheric sound.

Hope this helped!

caleb.lapish
January 28th, 2012, 10:30 PM
I have the DD-5 and I love it. I have played a few DD-7's and the only reason I like the 7 vs 5 is cuss the looper. But I like the DD-5 and I use the dotted 8th all the time. You can pick up DD-5's pretty cheap. I think I paid $50 for mine. Good luck

CharlesCapps
January 29th, 2012, 10:49 AM
Teleworshipkid....that helped a lot. I have a delay on my cube 30 amp. Think I'll spend some time with it and the get the pedal for my Fender amp.

Teleworshipkid
January 29th, 2012, 11:46 AM
Teleworshipkid....that helped a lot. I have a delay on my cube 30 amp. Think I'll spend some time with it and the get the pedal for my Fender amp.

Hey, that's what forums are for! Good luck!

ChickenKiller
February 2nd, 2012, 03:27 PM
I have still not bought a delay pedal yet... :shock: I know... I make everything sound more like 70's southern rock vs. 90's U2....

Like for instance Dessert Song by Hillsong... NO DELAY, just some Tube Amp and Bad Monkey Overdrive with some Tele Spank... Oh Yeah!

Another song PPL loved us doing is "Our God" With No Delay, Just a tad bit of OD and playing Triads... PPL LOVE IT. haha

(But I am in Oklahoma Where Long Haired Country Boys live)