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Wiring gurus needed

mefgames
December 30th, 2011, 11:59 PM
I am building a Baritone guitar for my son. He is very particular about how he would like the controls to function. I have no problem with his requests except that I am no wiring expert. I am not even sure what he's asking is possible without a few mods so it works properly.

So here's the layout
2 Humbuckers
a Les Paul-esque switch in the upper bout to switch between Bridge/Both/Neck

Now comes the interesting part.

2 mini toggles that function as follows

rear mini toggle
up=bridge rear single coil
middle=bridge humbucker
down=bridge front single coil

front mini toggle
up=neck rear single coil
middle=neck humbucker
down=neck front single coil

This seems to me that another switch would be required to actually switch between these 2 different circuits, and there is some double coverage. I have searched high and low on all the pickup and wiring sites for some insight, to no avail.
So, if someone here has some constructive solutions, I would like to hear them, better yet see them diagramed out.

Almost forgot 1 vol and 1 tone

Thanks, Mike

clsatt
December 31st, 2011, 12:12 AM
http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/wiring-diagrams/schematics.php?schematic=2_p_rails_2v_2t_3w_2mt

this should get you started.

Pauleo
December 31st, 2011, 12:17 AM
For this you will need two DPDT (Double pole double throw) toggles in ON- OFF- ON configuration. You can get these from any guitar parts store or Mouser.com

I've done this wiring for a few of my guitars.

http://www.pauleliassonguitars.com/wp-content/gallery/red-violin/red-violin-4.jpg

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Sg8oodg7Ljw/Tv08E1A9-9I/AAAAAAAABFc/EC1UWrlDDOI/s512/DSC_1106.JPG

Now this really depends on the pickups you are going to use as each has their own color coding. For the sake of simplicity let's just use Seymour Duncan.

The black wire (hot wire) will go to the top left lug of the dpdt. You will run that connection to the pickup selector.
The white and red wires which, are wired together, go to the middle left lug of the dpdt switch.

The green and bare wires go to the bottom left lug of the dpdt. You will run this connection to ground.

Repeat for the neck pickup, you will get either coil with series humbucker in the middle.

Pauleo
December 31st, 2011, 12:20 AM
http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/wiring-diagrams/schematics.php?schematic=2_p_rails_2v_2t_3w_2mt

this should get you started.

Beat me to it! It's a great set up for humbuckers with mismatched coils.

megafiddle
December 31st, 2011, 12:24 AM
Each switch controls one pickup: selecting between coil 1, coil 2, or humbucking (both coils).

If that's what he does want, I believe it would be easy. You would need SPDT switches,
with ON-OFF-ON positions.

(corrected - misread post)

Switches are as in diagram above. You can use SPDT or DPDT. Notice one half of switch (one pole)
isn't used.

Shepherd
December 31st, 2011, 12:30 AM
Sounds like he needs one of these

http://www.instruments2go.co.uk/images/W/Fender%20Pawn%20Shop%20Mustang%20Special%20Lake%20 Placid%20Blue.jpg

megafiddle
December 31st, 2011, 12:52 AM
This diagram will work if you imagine each side of the DPDT as two separate switches:

http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/wiring-diagrams/schematics.php?schematic=2_prails_1v_1t_3w_mini

It shows only one switch, but just use the terminals on the left half of the switch in the diagram,
for one of the switches,
and the terminals on the right half of the switch in the diagram,
for the other switch.

Hope that makes sense.

braderrick
December 31st, 2011, 01:12 AM
If you're using humbuckers ya just can't beat the Seymour Duncan Triple Shot mounting rings. I have them on one of my Les Pauls and they are available in either cream or black. They have two tiny switches on each ring that will do 3 combos with each pickup. You have the humbucker in series, the humbucker in parallel, and the front coil or the back coil. It's pretty nice too because you just wire your pickups to the rings and then the leads that come of the rings are simple 2 conductor leads keeping your control area neat and simple.

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