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Fixing pedals to the board

paulo6
December 8th, 2011, 12:20 PM
Having always in the past used a multi-fx pedal I'm a recent convert to the delights of individual pedals and just wondered whether anyone has come up with an alternative to velcro fixing. I have a tote bag with a velcro base and only really need about 5 pedals including a wah and volume, but I find I'm going through the velcro strips pretty quickly, especially on the heavier pedals.
Ideas anyone?

Daddy Hojo
December 8th, 2011, 12:45 PM
Drill holes in the board and mount them with zip ties. Some of the bigger pedals might take more than one to keep them from sliding around.

k tone
December 8th, 2011, 01:00 PM
I use the bike chain link method but I make my own links out of SS banding.

Axis29
December 8th, 2011, 02:56 PM
I bought a roll of plastic plumbers pipe strap to experiment with. It works very effectively, but isn't the most attractive thing... All I did was cut off two consecutive holes worth of tape, unscrew the screws from the bottom of the pedal and screw them back in through one of the holes in the tape, set the pedal in place and run a wood screw in. Solid as a rock.

http://www.homedepot.com/buy/plumbing-plumbing-accessories-repair-clamps/oatey-3-4-in-x-25-ft-plastic-hanger-strap-131498.html

I wanna say the whole roll was about 3 bucks...

I could probably trim it more neatly and be a little more judicious about it... when I redo the pedal board soon, I probably will.

ADinNYC
December 8th, 2011, 03:12 PM
I use a Leprechaun board which I really love but I suppose you could just purchase their fasteners. They hold really well and are easily removed from your pedals without leaving a sticky mess.

http://www.leprechaunpedalboards.com/products.html#3

popthree
December 8th, 2011, 05:21 PM
3M Dual Lock...sort of like velcro...sort of not.. both sides are the same..so there's no fuzzy side... Amazon has a good deal on spools it but you can buy it in small quantities over the counter at target too

Bongocaster
December 8th, 2011, 05:50 PM
I bought a roll of plastic plumbers pipe strap to experiment with. It works very effectively, but isn't the most attractive thing... All I did was cut off two consecutive holes worth of tape, unscrew the screws from the bottom of the pedal and screw them back in through one of the holes in the tape, set the pedal in place and run a wood screw in. Solid as a rock.

http://www.homedepot.com/buy/plumbing-plumbing-accessories-repair-clamps/oatey-3-4-in-x-25-ft-plastic-hanger-strap-131498.html

I wanna say the whole roll was about 3 bucks...

I could probably trim it more neatly and be a little more judicious about it... when I redo the pedal board soon, I probably will.

I used to do the same thing, only cutting my own small pieces of metal sheet and drilling my own holes. Nothing fancy, just tin snips, drill and done.

jnepo1
December 8th, 2011, 10:04 PM
I use Dual Lock or GE Household Glue. Dual Lock is great, it leaves no residue when and if you need to remove it. If you move pedals on/off your board, I suggest a 150/250 count combination of the Dual Lock. If you don't move pedals off the board much, then a 250/400 count is best. To remove the from each otherr, just use a flathead screwdriver to pry them apart.

The GE Household Glue is a silicon based glue will keep a pedal secure as tight as Dual Lock. A dab of the glue on the 4 corners of the pedal and then apply the pedal onto the surface in a twisting fashion will result in a very secure hold. To remove, apply the same method while pulling the pedal away from the board. To clean the GE Glue off of the surface, just peel it off or rub it off. It will not remove paint or leave a residue. I also use it to mount wood risers on my boards.

Tele-phone man
December 9th, 2011, 06:51 AM
I used to do the same thing, only cutting my own small pieces of metal sheet and drilling my own holes. Nothing fancy, just tin snips, drill and done.

I use the bike links, too. I MUCH prefer it to velcro. Eventually velcro leaves a goey mess on the bottom of a pedal. The bike links are small and smooth, so they don't look bad at all.

HappyHwy1owner
December 9th, 2011, 07:33 AM
I use the bike links, too. I MUCH prefer it to velcro. Eventually velcro leaves a goey mess on the bottom of a pedal. The bike links are small and smooth, so they don't look bad at all.

I bought a Gator board for 5 pedals and also used the chain link method. Screw them right to the board. They're sturdy enough that you can pick up the whole board by grabbing just one pedal.

winny pooh
December 9th, 2011, 07:58 AM
Brass screw in eyelets into a wooden board with zip/cable ties.

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popthree
December 9th, 2011, 08:26 AM
I use a Leprechaun board which I really love but I suppose you could just purchase their fasteners. They hold really well and are easily removed from your pedals without leaving a sticky mess.

http://www.leprechaunpedalboards.com/products.html#3

i don't get how these work. do you have a pic.? i guess i can go to the google.

i read they're pitch... they poo poo on the dual lock, but by the desc. i'm not convinced they actually tried it. it doesn't get goop in it.. .the pedals are rock solid and it leaves no sticky stuff if you peel them off of the pedals later. might all be true with velcro...but not dual lock, in my experience

popthree
December 9th, 2011, 08:27 AM
Brass screw in eyelets into a wooden board with zip/cable ties.

winny.. what are these brass screw in eyelets ?

ADinNYC
December 9th, 2011, 08:37 AM
i don't get how these work. do you have a pic.? i guess i can go to the google.

i read they're pitch... they poo poo on the dual lock, but by the desc. i'm not convinced they actually tried it. it doesn't get goop in it.. .the pedals are rock solid and it leaves no sticky stuff if you peel them off of the pedals later. might all be true with velcro...but not dual lock, in my experience

I'm not familiar with dual lock but the Leprechaun fasteners really work well. I was a little skeptical at first but they're really rock solid. Check out the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAbFta2jPjA&feature=player_embedded#!

popthree
December 9th, 2011, 09:29 AM
ADinNYC.. thanks for the video.. yeah that is a pretty cool deal. a guy could whip up a DIY version with some pegboard and those fasteners too.

here is a pic of what 3M dual lock looks like.. both sides are the same... little mush room heads... so not nearly as prone to picking up fuzz and what not like velcro does... and it holds the pedals 'tight'. i have a Rang3 on my board and its rock solid.

http://store.applebazaar.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/blocks.jpg

ADinNYC
December 9th, 2011, 09:32 AM
ADinNYC.. thanks for the video.. yeah that is a pretty cool deal. a guy could whip up a DIY version with some pegboard and those fasteners too.

here is a pic of what 3M dual lock looks like.. both sides are the same... little mush room heads... so not nearly as prone to picking up fuzz and what not like velcro does... and it holds the pedals 'tight'. i have a Rang3 on my board and its rock solid.

http://store.applebazaar.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/blocks.jpg

Interesting. Do they peel off without leaving a sticky residue? The leprechaun things don't leave any trace behind at all. They can't be re-used though which kind of stinks. Once you pop them off the adhesiveness is gone.

popthree
December 9th, 2011, 09:38 AM
Interesting. Do they peel off without leaving a sticky residue? The leprechaun things don't leave any trace behind at all. They can't be re-used though which kind of stinks. Once you pop them off the adhesiveness is gone.

yeah the dual lock doesn't leave any adhesive..but once you remove them from the pedals they don't stick any more. perhaps they use the same sticky stuff as the leprechaun. i just use tiny pieces.. stamp sized and smaller, to hold my pedals on.

asatbender
December 9th, 2011, 09:43 AM
I was going to ask this question today myself. I am building my first board and this was my last item to decide on. i think I'll try the 3m if easy to find locally.

popthree
December 9th, 2011, 09:48 AM
i know Target sells it.. probably Lowes and Home Depot as well. there are different grades of it. i've always used the kind in the pic.. clear.. its a little bigger, and i'm guessing, sturdier. its almost too strong sometimes. the pedals are locked on the board and it takes a surprising amount of force to get them off.

winny pooh
December 9th, 2011, 01:32 PM
winny.. what are these brass screw in eyelets ?

http://www.nixalite.com/images/ScreweyeL1.jpg

One either side of the pedal then a long ziptie though both sides over the pedal. If you have short ties you can join them together. Plus you can use a knife blade to loosen and re-attach if needed. No screw driver or glue or velcro needed. Credit to my Dad, he thought of this solution.

popthree
December 9th, 2011, 02:36 PM
that's a good solution Winny. i like this solution because the materials are super cheap and you may already have them in the garage.

another zip tie thought...
a guy could also use pegboard and run the zip ties through the existing holes.. course you'd have to flip the board on its side the feed the zip tie back through the other side.

jnepo1
December 10th, 2011, 05:45 AM
yeah the dual lock doesn't leave any adhesive..but once you remove them from the pedals they don't stick any more. perhaps they use the same sticky stuff as the leprechaun. i just use tiny pieces.. stamp sized and smaller, to hold my pedals on.

Yes they can actually be reusable. Once you peel them off, the adhesive will still be effective on a clean surface. But to further ensure adhesion, you can apply a coat of 3M adhesive spray #77 onto the surface to renew the adhesive. You can buy the spray at most hardware stores. Just make sure it's by 3M.

jnepo1
December 10th, 2011, 05:52 AM
If you go the Dual Lock way, Dual Lock has vary degrees of hold via the count of the mushrooms per inch. Dual Lock sells in 150/250 and 400 count. If you switch out pedals often, a 150/250 count is good, but a 250/400 count is better. To remove the pedals, a great method is to take a flathead screwdriver a place it between the 2 pieces to pry them apart. Dual Lock is usually good up to 1000 applications or attach/reattaching pedals.

It's a much better alternative to velcro.

gtrguru
December 10th, 2011, 06:48 AM
3M Dual Lock...sort of like velcro...sort of not.. both sides are the same..so there's no fuzzy side... Amazon has a good deal on spools it but you can buy it in small quantities over the counter at target too

+1

popthree
December 10th, 2011, 08:45 AM
Yes they can actually be reusable. Once you peel them off, the adhesive will still be effective on a clean surface. But to further ensure adhesion, you can apply a coat of 3M adhesive spray #77 onto the surface to renew the adhesive. You can buy the spray at most hardware stores. Just make sure it's by 3M.
Oh yeah? Cool. I have some pieces that I saved...adhesive worn out but I kept them anyway...thanks for the tip!

sequencepro
December 13th, 2011, 02:17 PM
2" wide Industrial Velcro works great, and it's the right width for most pedals. Solid as a ROCK!!! (In the Wallyworld craft/sewing section)

mudfinger
December 13th, 2011, 03:03 PM
I use links from a bike chain, with those little rubber pedal feet beneath the pedals and beneath the links to act as shock absorbers.

Here's a pic of my board outside its case, while I was in the process of installing all the "little baby buggy bumpers" :mrgreen:

http://www.mylespaul.com/gallery/data/727/medium/mojobagtuning_001.jpg