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NGD customized my Strat! (Sea Foam green and wide range humbucker content)

mraymond77
November 4th, 2011, 12:01 AM
So I had a white mim strat sittin around. I think it's a mexican, I actually can't find a serial number. I bought it off a friend of mine for 150 bucks, which was a killer deal! I'm not much into strats, but I couldn't pass it up. He had a ball bearing nut and graphite bridge and what I think were lawrence pickups in there so it was pretty cool from the get go.

Here's a small pic of it in its original state
http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af148/mraymond77/0strat0.png

mraymond77
November 4th, 2011, 12:07 AM
So I had it like this for a few months, then I got to thinking that I've always wanted a sea foam or surf green guitar. And since I already have a white blonde tele, I mught as well refinish my strat! I thought hard between surf and sea foam, but eventially decided on the slightly darker sea foam. The funny thing about sea foam green is it always appears bright blue in pictures, but it does have that green to it that the camera can't capture very easily.

Anyways, onto the refin project! I actually didn't have a guitar with humbuckers at the time, so I figured I might as well put humbuckers in it too. I hate to cut out the pickup route to "swimming pool style". I don't have a router so I carefully used a circular saw to put a couple cuts in the wings that poke out and used a chisel to pop em off. worked well enough!
http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af148/mraymond77/IMAG0005-1.jpg
http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af148/mraymond77/IMAG0004.jpg

robt57
November 4th, 2011, 12:20 AM
It's MIM

Just a note: Your paint stick is so close to the sides of the neck pocket, I'd be good and sure no spray fills and drys between the two before you pull it.

mraymond77
November 4th, 2011, 12:20 AM
taking off the poly coat sounded like a lot more work than I wanted to do. Since it was white anyways, I figured I'd use that as the base. I scuffed it up with 400 grit sand paper so it felt like a big guitar shaped egg. I then used reranch rattle cans to spray on the sea foam green. I hung it off my back porch because I didnt want to figure out ventilation and plastic covering. Kind of half-assed..
http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af148/mraymond77/IMAG0006.jpg

I also ordered some tinted clear coat to yellow up my neck a bit, and put on about 6 coats of that over the clear poly on the neck.
Maybe you can help identify what kind of neck this is? It looks american, but then again what do I know? looks like it had different tuning machines in there before and some one replaced them with what I think are the vintage spec tuning machines. the holes for the tuning pegs are too big for the tuning peg collars I have, so that's an annoyance. But at least it works
http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af148/mraymond77/IMAG0012.jpg
http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af148/mraymond77/IMAG0013.jpg
http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af148/mraymond77/IMAG0014.jpg

mraymond77
November 4th, 2011, 12:21 AM
It's MIM

Yeah I figured because of the 3 holes there, thanks.

mraymond77
November 4th, 2011, 12:45 AM
sorry, these pictures are obnoxiously big..
I ordered my humbuckers. I went all out because it took me so long to paint, and I wanted something awesome. So I ordered Lollar Regals, which are the lollar version of the fender wide range humbuckers. That put me out quite a few bucks, but onward and upward!

except, wide range humbuckers are quite a bit bigger than normal humbuckers. sunuvabitch, my swimming pool isn't wide enough for these suckers!
I looked into it a bit more and found a thread with someone who put FWRH in a strat but said that it wouldn't fit in the neck, because the mounting plate would extend past the pickguard.

http://www.strat-talk.com/forum/stratocaster-discussion-forum/43294-ngd-blue-meanie.html

Which I was not happy about because I certainly wanted one in the neck position and one in the bridge. not one bridge and middle/
So, I figured I could make it fit. barely.:shock:
I took my dremel tool (again, no routers here) and went to town. I marked where the pickguard was in that tight spot for the neck pickup and made absolutely sure I didn't pass it.
http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af148/mraymond77/IMAG0008.jpg

I also made it concave slightly so it actually overhung a bit. here's a picture of the wide range sitting comfortably in the neck spot.
http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af148/mraymond77/IMAG0011.jpg

I did it to both the neck and bridge spot and was good to go
http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af148/mraymond77/IMAG0010.jpg

mraymond77
November 4th, 2011, 12:47 AM
http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af148/mraymond77/IMAG0010a-1.jpg

I ordered a precut pickguard for 2 humbuckers, and measured it out and enlarged the holes to the right size with the dremel tool. I got black because I love the look of a black pickguard with chromed humbuckers

robt57
November 4th, 2011, 12:59 AM
The suspense is tough...


Want.... to... see.... guard...... with WRHBs............. on.............

oramac7891
November 4th, 2011, 01:02 AM
Looking good

mraymond77
November 4th, 2011, 01:18 AM
So anyways I got too excited when the neck pickup actually fit on the pickguard, and I didn't get any pictures of wiring it up. So straight to the end product! drumrollll
http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af148/mraymond77/p20111103-212503.jpg

robt57
November 4th, 2011, 01:21 AM
That suks!


How does it sound and what did you go with Pots and cap et al?

mraymond77
November 4th, 2011, 01:22 AM
You can see how close the screw came to the edge. Its just barely hanging on! But it worked, and these pickups sound Incredible!! I wired it up with a 3-way selector switch, 2 volume pots, and one master tone all 500 k.
http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af148/mraymond77/IMAG0018.jpg

robt57
November 4th, 2011, 01:29 AM
Boy, that is right at the edge of getting fit in.

You can always make a new guard one day if it bothers you.

Looks really good, luv to hear that bad boy...

garyd5158
November 4th, 2011, 01:59 AM
That is freakie, stylie. Nice job. Sea Foam, black and chrome looks great.

mraymond77
November 4th, 2011, 02:14 PM
That suks!


How does it sound and what did you go with Pots and cap et al?

Yeah sorry about the jump, heh. But I might need to open it up again because the knobs sit a little high. I might need to put a washer on the cavity side of the pots to bring them down a bit. If I dow, I'll take a shot of the wiring. The cap I put on the tone pot is .047 orange drop.

robt57
November 4th, 2011, 02:21 PM
BTW, I was going to say something when you initially did not widen the pool route beyond the inbetween wood removal. Was not sure you meant real WRHB size HBs.

I did almost the same thing once. Did a pine body for a P90 Squier II guard, and got a WRHB populated guard while the Nitro was curing. So had to open up the routes to get the WRHBs in it with a freshly painted body... grrr.... ;)

Del Pickup
November 4th, 2011, 04:50 PM
Good job there - and all without a router anywhere in sight!! You must have a very steady hand to tackle that with a circular saw...........!

So how does it sound?? We need some sound clips.

mraymond77
November 4th, 2011, 05:32 PM
Good job there - and all without a router anywhere in sight!! You must have a very steady hand to tackle that with a circular saw...........!

So how does it sound?? We need some sound clips.

I had a buddy hold the body down while I slowly let the saw down on the "wings" and was able to cut in to the right depth, then I made another cut just like it a bit closer in, so it was like 4 free floating squares of wood poking up from the cavity. Then I took a hammer and chisel, angled it in from inside the cavity and gave it a good whack and they popped right off!

I'll get some sound clips up tomorrow I think.

robt57
November 4th, 2011, 06:11 PM
BTW, I mean suks as in good / boss / tubular etc

fezz parka
November 4th, 2011, 06:16 PM
http://www.guitarflashback.com/backissues/guitarplayer/8504gp.JPG

oramac7891
November 5th, 2011, 02:52 AM
Cool

possumkiller
November 27th, 2012, 05:46 PM
I was thinking about doing this to one of my Strats also. Now that I have seen the pickuard, I think I might try to do a custom guard. Maybe like a normal Stratocaster on the bottom edge but, like a '72 Tele Thinline on the top edge to make sure there is plenty of space for the humbuckers.

syrynx
November 28th, 2012, 11:20 PM
I am extremely impressed by your routing work. I also really like the look of the guitar, and would very much like to hear it.


I looked into it a bit more and found a thread with someone who put FWRH in a strat but said that it wouldn't fit in the neck, because the mounting plate would extend past the pickguard.

http://www.strat-talk.com/forum/stratocaster-discussion-forum/43294-ngd-blue-meanie.html

Heh... That's my brother's guitar. I'll have to make sure he sees this thread.:mrgreen: